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Getting the joke 30 years later - just me?

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HappySquid · 29/11/2024 21:10

I have just realised that Shaun the Sheep's name is a play on words (Shaun/shorn). Feeling rather sheepish.

Has anyone else come across a joke that only sunk in many years later or is it just me?!

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GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:21

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 08:16

I'm not saying that you, and others, don't though.

I'm disagreeing with you that we are all so insular we can't imagine how others speak. That was the point I was getting across in the post you've just quoted.

I’m not saying you’re insular I’m actually saying that it will be hard to imagine. If you heard me say sauce you would still know what I meant and may not occur to you at the time it didn’t rhyme with source.
I don’t listen to my friends who do rhyme them speak and think to myself that they say that differently to me. It’s just how they speak and as we are both understood it just doesn’t occur to me at the time and the differences are something I only give any thought to when the conversation is specific to them like this one.

newyear2024 · 30/11/2024 08:22

As a kid I watched cartoon network, and watched a cartoon called 'cow and chicken' only as an adult I thought back to the cows three dolls names - 'crabs, piles and manure' I knew what manure was but the crabs and piles went over my head and I can't believe how disgusting that was for a children's cartoon!

catin8oots · 30/11/2024 08:22

CrocsNotDocs · 30/11/2024 02:27

My friends have never let me forget the time I wondered aloud about what the T in t-shirt stood for.

What does it stand for?

AConstipatedAccountantJustCantBudget · 30/11/2024 08:23

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2024 08:17

I love accents too, but I find it really odd that so many people seem to find it hard to imagine things sounding different in pretty familiar different accents from their own part of the world! I can instantly 'hear' in my head how 'sauce'and 'cross' would sound in lots of different accents in the British Isles if I think about it.

Yes, and I don't think it's generally hard to pick up puns that don't quite work in my accent but do in another. Especially if there's a massive clue like the the title of Shaun the close-shorn sheep's film being 'a close shave'.Grin

People insisting their accent is the right one and other people's are wrong is weird though - I hope they're joking but they often come across as all too serious.

Indeed. I'm not Scottish, but I can see how this silly (but still makes me laugh!) joke would work in a Scottish accent:

Why did the handkerchief dance? Because it had a little boogie in it!

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 08:23

GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:21

I’m not saying you’re insular I’m actually saying that it will be hard to imagine. If you heard me say sauce you would still know what I meant and may not occur to you at the time it didn’t rhyme with source.
I don’t listen to my friends who do rhyme them speak and think to myself that they say that differently to me. It’s just how they speak and as we are both understood it just doesn’t occur to me at the time and the differences are something I only give any thought to when the conversation is specific to them like this one.

No, I wouldn't think it at the time, but I can play it back in my head now!

JaninaDuszejko · 30/11/2024 08:23

And the reason people can't hear the differences in sounds is because the way your brain is wired during childhood to listen to speech and is set by puberty. Which it is why it is hard to learn other languages as you get older and your brain loses its plasticity and you can't speak a different language without a strong accent and can't pronounce certain sounds in other languages. So e.g. loch is pronounced lock by English people and they can't roll their rs.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 30/11/2024 08:24

groovergirl · 30/11/2024 01:45

Who remembers the early '80s song "House of Fun", by Madness? Only in the past year have I realised it's about a boy who has just reached the age of consent and is on a quest for condoms. Full marks to Suggs and the lads for creating a song and video so quirkily esoteric that I could watch it on TV in full view of my parents without their or my twigging to its true meaning!

I always thought it was about a joke shop 😳

Zonder · 30/11/2024 08:26

MyCatIsBeautiful · 30/11/2024 08:12

It’s because it’s made of meat. Which is a bit of an animal.

I know but where's the joke? I can't see a connection.

GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:26

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 08:23

No, I wouldn't think it at the time, but I can play it back in my head now!

And you’re not at all prepared to accept that your own accent in your head may be filling in some gaps at all or creating a bias?

misscockerspaniel · 30/11/2024 08:26

I thought that in her song Orinoco Flow, Enya was singing Save the Whale, and this is what I sing. Found out quite recently, that the words are Sail Away.

buybuysellsell · 30/11/2024 08:26

I only recently realised that the 90s song Ebenezer Good is about taking ecstasy (E's are good). Bit like Britney singing If You Seek Amy to mean F U ... etc.

GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:27

Zonder · 30/11/2024 08:26

I know but where's the joke? I can't see a connection.

And it’s sausage shaped

Itisjustmyopinion · 30/11/2024 08:27

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 08:06

That's not true, especially if you're like me and live somewhere you weren't raised (which also has a good mix of incomers with a variety of accents).

I also can't imagine my Scottish friend rhyming cross and sauce. I'm almost tempted to ask her to send me a voice note so I can check! 🤣🤣 (We even had a conversation about types of sauce you have on different foods when I was with her last time, which is why I don't think she says 'soss'.)

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There is not just one Scottish accent just like there is not one English accent

In my Scottish tones cross and sauce absolutely do sound the same

AConstipatedAccountantJustCantBudget · 30/11/2024 08:27

JaninaDuszejko · 30/11/2024 08:23

And the reason people can't hear the differences in sounds is because the way your brain is wired during childhood to listen to speech and is set by puberty. Which it is why it is hard to learn other languages as you get older and your brain loses its plasticity and you can't speak a different language without a strong accent and can't pronounce certain sounds in other languages. So e.g. loch is pronounced lock by English people and they can't roll their rs.

Scousers routinely pronounce the 'ch' sound as in loch - they even do it when barely any other accent would, such as when saying lock!

I (along with many others) can do it perfectly well too if I want to (such as when pronouncing a Scottish or Welsh word), although it doesn't usually feature in my own (English) accent.

I can even pronounce Pwllheli properly!!!!!!

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 08:28

GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:26

And you’re not at all prepared to accept that your own accent in your head may be filling in some gaps at all or creating a bias?

Dunno. Maybe, maybe not. Are you saying it's not possible that she doesn't say it the same way you do?!

I feel a voice note request coming on! 🤣

Zonder · 30/11/2024 08:28

GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:27

And it’s sausage shaped

I know. But I still don't see any joke. Is there something about the word peperami I'm missing?

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 08:30

Itisjustmyopinion · 30/11/2024 08:27

There is not just one Scottish accent just like there is not one English accent

In my Scottish tones cross and sauce absolutely do sound the same

I know. That's my point! But apparently it's my internal bias meaning I think she doesn't say 'soss'! She probably does now, mind.

LaChatte · 30/11/2024 08:30

According to the Longman Pronunciation Dictionary sauce and cross are often pronounced the same (primary pronunciation in blue, secondary pronunciation in black) although cross has a slightly different pronunciation as its first option.

Getting the joke 30 years later - just me?
Zippidydoodah · 30/11/2024 08:30

WillowTit · 30/11/2024 05:58

why did the chicken cross the road,
to get to the other side
ie death
is a recent realisation for me

Well I never!

GetDownkeith · 30/11/2024 08:31

Zonder · 30/11/2024 08:28

I know. But I still don't see any joke. Is there something about the word peperami I'm missing?

What ‘bit’ of an animal could be likened to a sausage?

IKEAJesus · 30/11/2024 08:32

LegoTherapy · 30/11/2024 07:42

It's fascinating. I found myself awake and on here saying these words out loud to try and see how they sound.

I've often wondered how teachers teach phonics in places with strong accents.

As a northerner it annoys me in Stick Man when laugh and scarf don't rhyme and I have to remember to say it the southern way otherwise it's all wrong.

Laugh and scarf rhyme in my southern accent

CaptainMyCaptain · 30/11/2024 08:32

NoWordForFluffy · 30/11/2024 07:50

This is your original post:

GetDownkeith · Today 06:56
It rhymes in my Scottish accent. I can’t make sauce rhyme with horse sauce definitely rhymes with sauce. It will in most British accents I can think of apart from the south of England.

Definitely British.

That wasn't my post.

This is what I posted:
Not in most English accents except cut glass RP. The B side of the orginal Teddy Bears Picnic record (1940s or 50s) had a song about birds that rhymed 'lawn' with 'gone' (gorn). I don't think anybody talks like that any more.

I realise Scottish and Irish accents are different.

Thanksforyourlackofthought · 30/11/2024 08:33

Letmegohome · 30/11/2024 00:47

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I do a very sensible job and manage a team across the country. I don’t care how serious the meeting or conversation, if we are discussing numbers, I’m still doing it like The Count. It’s the only way. 😂

LaChatte · 30/11/2024 08:34

LaChatte · 30/11/2024 08:30

According to the Longman Pronunciation Dictionary sauce and cross are often pronounced the same (primary pronunciation in blue, secondary pronunciation in black) although cross has a slightly different pronunciation as its first option.

(Forgot to add the important info that the pronunciation given after the 2 little vertical lines is the American pronunciation 😅)

CaptainMyCaptain · 30/11/2024 08:35

AConstipatedAccountantJustCantBudget · 30/11/2024 08:01

Nobody pronounces it that way?!

What about all the dawwwwwwgs that they're supposedly eating in Springfield?!

OK. English as spoken in England then.

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