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Getting the joke 30 years later - just me?

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HappySquid · 29/11/2024 21:10

I have just realised that Shaun the Sheep's name is a play on words (Shaun/shorn). Feeling rather sheepish.

Has anyone else come across a joke that only sunk in many years later or is it just me?!

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Words · 30/11/2024 15:22

Who knew Blyton could be so post modern?Grin

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 30/11/2024 15:23

NOTcentreparcsandNOTatrifle · 30/11/2024 15:18

That's because @words hasn't got the joke right in the first place.

The actual joke is "Why do elephants have big ears?"
Answer: Because Noddy wouldn't pay the ransom.

Big Ears is a friend of Noddy in a series of children's books.
Elephants do have big ears, so it is a reasonable question.

The character, Noddy, doesn't have big ears, and why would he hold his friend to ransom anyway?

Thank you. All this carry on about it not making sense is not helped by the joke being wrong in the first place

Its like -

Two fish are in a tank and one says ‘do you know how to drive this thing?’

or

Two parrots on a perch and one says ‘can you smell fish?’

It’s a play on words having two meanings.

ballstomonty · 30/11/2024 15:24

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 30/11/2024 09:47

30 years??
OP, Shaun the sheep started when my lad was little, and he’s only 18 now.
Hope this helps you to feel better about the time frame 🤣

A close shave came out in 1995, so nearly 30 years. The TV series was later though

Longrider · 30/11/2024 15:34

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2024 15:18

While I was out this afternoon a tangential question occurred to me which some of the Irish/Scottish speakers may be able to answer.
In many English accents the names spelled as Sean, Shaun and Shawn are indistinguishable homophones of each other as well as of 'shorn'. Are there any accents in which those three spellings wouldn't be pronounced the same?

(On my return checking the wiki page to see if Sean should have a fada I realise my question may be naive, for which apologies).

In my Irish accent I’d say Seán, Shawn and Shaun the same way.

Shorn is different as I pronounce the r. The vowel sound is different too (the same as in show).

Sean without a fada is pronounced shan. It means old. If I saw it written without the fada for someone’s name I’d say Seán/Shaun though.

Where I am an á gives an aw sound but it’s not the same in all dialects. Ulster Irish’s á is different so Seán probably sounds a bit different there.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 30/11/2024 15:50

CharlotteStreetW1 · 30/11/2024 09:06

As an aside "Every Breath You Take" is a very good song to shag to as it is three speeds in one song.

Mine was "why have elephants got big ears? ... because Noddy wouldn't pay the ransom" It was literally years before it clicked. Probably not helped by having an anti Enid Blyton mother so I didn't even know about Big Ears as a character.

The joke was not wrong in the first place!

A classic case of Chinese whispers this thread 😄

SwankyPants · 30/11/2024 15:53

What's the Hitchhiker joke? Irs not sinking in 😆

Dobest · 30/11/2024 15:54

After about forty years, it suddenly came to me why my old male colleagues used to say a man was "dressed up like a pox doctor's clerk." I had thought it was just a crass expression.

The joke, of course, is about who would know what a pox doctor's clerk looks like.

Letmegohome · 30/11/2024 15:56

Thinking about misunderstood more than missing the joke . I know someone who is a DJ and was asked to play 'I know him so well " from Chess for the first dance at a wedding reception......

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2024 16:01

Thank you @Longrider ! The wiki page gives the Ulster variant as Séan not Seán and says it's anglicised as Shane/Shayne.

NOTcentreparcsandNOTatrifle · 30/11/2024 16:02

@CharlotteStreetW1

Yes, you did have it right the first time, but it somehow got mangled later in the thread by another poster so I was just clarifying because the "explanation" of "why does Noddy have big ears?" made no sense.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2024 16:03

SwankyPants · 30/11/2024 15:53

What's the Hitchhiker joke? Irs not sinking in 😆

You mean the 'unpleasantly like being drunk ... ask a glass of water' one?

Well, just imagine being in a glass and swilled into a persons mouth and onwards!Grin

SisterAgatha · 30/11/2024 16:05

PyongyangKipperbang · 30/11/2024 02:23

So Knockturn Alley will send you bandy then? (Clue, its dedicated to all things dark).

Not being mean honestly! I got Diagon Alley straight away but Knockturn Alley took me more than a couple of years!

I only just got this today 🥲

Sleepycocker · 30/11/2024 16:05

SparkleShineRainbow · 30/11/2024 06:43

What?
is this for real??

Surely not!

CharlotteStreetW1 · 30/11/2024 16:08

NOTcentreparcsandNOTatrifle · 30/11/2024 16:02

@CharlotteStreetW1

Yes, you did have it right the first time, but it somehow got mangled later in the thread by another poster so I was just clarifying because the "explanation" of "why does Noddy have big ears?" made no sense.

To be honest, I think the mangling was funnier than the joke!

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 30/11/2024 16:09

SwankyPants · 30/11/2024 15:53

What's the Hitchhiker joke? Irs not sinking in 😆

For the glass of water, use the "being imbibed" version if drunk, rather than the "being intoxicated" version of drunk.

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 30/11/2024 16:54

SisterAgatha · 30/11/2024 16:05

I only just got this today 🥲

Well I have literally only just got this, Knockturn Alley / nocturnally.

I was an adult when I read the books, so not excuse.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 30/11/2024 17:05

TypingoftheDead · 30/11/2024 13:49

I’m not sure how differently Shaun and shorn can be pronounced from each other? In any case, they do sound the same in the movie the pun in question comes from. How other people pronounce the name/word seems kind of irrelevant.

They're not homonyms no but they are homophones

Longrider · 30/11/2024 17:06

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2024 16:01

Thank you @Longrider ! The wiki page gives the Ulster variant as Séan not Seán and says it's anglicised as Shane/Shayne.

There are lots of Seáns there too though.

Longrider · 30/11/2024 17:09

Bigearringsbigsmile · 30/11/2024 17:05

They're not homonyms no but they are homophones

In some accents Shaun and shorn do sound the same but in others, like mine, they don’t at all. So they’re not always homophones, it depends on the accent.

sharpclawedkitten · 30/11/2024 17:09

AConstipatedAccountantJustCantBudget · 30/11/2024 08:27

Scousers routinely pronounce the 'ch' sound as in loch - they even do it when barely any other accent would, such as when saying lock!

I (along with many others) can do it perfectly well too if I want to (such as when pronouncing a Scottish or Welsh word), although it doesn't usually feature in my own (English) accent.

I can even pronounce Pwllheli properly!!!!!!

Edited

I was going to say the same about Scousers. I can pronounce the ch sound but I can't roll my r's. In fact I can't get the r right in any language except my own accent Grin

sharpclawedkitten · 30/11/2024 17:10

I also think Shaun and shorn sound the same even if you roll the r. I mean not absolutely identical but close enough for the joke to still work.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2024 17:12

In some accents Shaun and shorn do sound the same but in others, like mine, they don’t at all. So they’re not always homophones, it depends on the accent.

I think everyone has got that by now, the point was they're not homonyms.Grin

ArminTamzerian · 30/11/2024 17:13

sharpclawedkitten · 30/11/2024 17:10

I also think Shaun and shorn sound the same even if you roll the r. I mean not absolutely identical but close enough for the joke to still work.

You may think that. It isn't correct though.

Longrider · 30/11/2024 17:14

sharpclawedkitten · 30/11/2024 17:10

I also think Shaun and shorn sound the same even if you roll the r. I mean not absolutely identical but close enough for the joke to still work.

The vowel sound is different too. The joke doesn’t work for lots of people and, unless they’ve seen the film, they’d be unlikely to guess Shaun was meant to sound like shorn. Well I hadn’t a clue anyway 😅

sharpclawedkitten · 30/11/2024 17:15

sharpclawedkitten · 30/11/2024 17:10

I also think Shaun and shorn sound the same even if you roll the r. I mean not absolutely identical but close enough for the joke to still work.

Edited, unless you pronounce Shaun like brown