Mum kept baby hidden in drawer for nearly 3 years !!

[benjaminjamesandgraham]

Even Christmas day she was kept in a drawer - oh how can someone be so cruel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz1dv8ly2o

Ah ok, it reads as if he knew (that she had left the child along Christmas day, etc) and was fine with it!

Shocking situation

What on earth are you on about.

Yeah I do think the whole Christmas thing is a red herring really

Why mention it

These people will probably cry the 'mental health card' but fuck that.

It doesn't read like that at all.

I agree it's irrelevant really, but with something so unimaginable I guess we grasp for something - anything - "known" in an attempt to make some sense of the horror

So we think of our own little ones' eyes lighting up at the tree, chortling at the mass of wrapping paper and their little hands clutching the new toy, and all it does is make it worse

As if it could be any worse ...

Not in any article I've read it doesn't

The sentencing is pathetic. The very most she would have got was 12 years but she pled guilty and gets 7?

That poor child will still only be primary school age when her ‘mother’ is released. So much trauma for her to deal with for the rest of her life. I hope she gets wonderful adoptive parents and her siblings get lots of support too because they will need it.

That woman will probably be out in 6 years or something and could have more kids who then have to go straight into care. The ripple effect of her actions will go on for years.

Each to their own.

You don't think it is particularly shocking to leave your baby in a drawer for 2 days while you take your other children off to celebrate Christmas?

um no. It’s shocking to keep your baby in a drawer for 3 years. Christmas doesn’t add an extra shock factor.

Are you seriously saying that a baby or toddler should never be left unsupervised for even a second? When even the NHS's own guidance states that if a baby's crying is badly affecting your mental health you should put the baby in a safe place and take 5 minutes to calm down?

There is no making sense of the horror.

It is beyond normal.

It's a failure of society.

Christmas is a concept.

WTF are you on about? Everyone isn't going "oh no, it's horrendous" because a child missed Christmas. They're going "oh no, it's horrendous" because a baby was kept in a drawer for 3 fucking years. I don't think you CAN sensationalise that - there's really nothing you can add to it that would make it more sensational than it is at face value.
Some very odd people on this thread obsessing about one mention of a missed Christmas in an article that lists a litany of tragedies in this child's life.

Broke my heart hearing this, that poor little girl, my first thought was how is anybody going to put this little girl
back together so very hard. But report does say she has Ben in foster care for two years, whoever got to look after and care for this little one I send you all the liv in the world. This woman should be named and shamed but understand they cannot do that because that will focus attention in this poor little mite. I hope the fucking mother suffers every pain that can be inflicted in her. She must have had a heart of stone. Really don’t need to hear from any do holders that want to find excuses for this horrible mother fucker

That poster is being deliberately obtuse.

And a very worrying number of other people on this thread lack basic comprehension skills.

Well, that is how pleading guilty works.

@NautilusLionfish gawd, yeah. We're trying to find some kind of justification or understanding for it but it's just horrific. I can't help thinking the mum must need MH support urgently. How could a child live in a drawer for three years without anyone else noticing?

Who said 'never for a second'? Please don't make shit up.

I'm sure most parents can be sensible and use their own experience and initiative when it comes to their children's safety.

2/3 minutes while you have a shit or a shower = yes
2 days on their own in a house = no

See? It's easy

Yes, it is bewildering..!

What the fuck are you on about read the report before assuming it was 3 years thus little girl was kept in a given drawer under the bed thus little 3 year old girl was the size of a 7 month old. What are you not fucking understanding with some of your attitudes.

Because it's an example of the baby being left for a long period of time - 36 hours

vs

Being left for shorter periods eg when mother was at work

I was responding to you saying "each to their own" in response to my post saying I left my four month old safely in his cot when I went to the loo. Which was in response to YOUR post saying a baby or toddler shouldn't be left unsupervised for two minutes, never mind two days.

But then you knew that.

Yes, I expect behind this tragedy, is the mother's own tragic story. No-one cared enough to notice she was pregnant, had given birth, was secretive, distracted, kept shutting herself away in her bedroom. Not one relative or friend or partner noticed anything amiss with her mental health in three years?

I've said on here before, its all very well coming on here and calling the woman a monster, but all of society is culpable because we don't care until a tragedy happens, yet all around us are people who desperately need someone to care. I don't have the answer but this woman likely needed help years years if not decades ago.

When a father abuses or neglects his child is your first thought that he needs urgent MH support?

yeah

yeah that's it

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Have you read the OP? It's literally one sentence. Maybe you need to recap it as you've forgotten already. Here it is again:

"Even Christmas day she was kept in a drawer - oh how can someone be so cruel"

It's a bullshit thing to pick out from a horrific story of child abuse and use to sensationalise and grab attention. The Sun would be proud.