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Wear wellies to school to support farmers?

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GrumpyDullard · 18/11/2024 20:16

My DC's school sent out a message this afternoon to say all kids should wear wellies to school tomorrow to support British farmers. I googled it and found out it's a campaign to oppose the removal of the inheritance tax exemption from agricultural land.
We're a rural community so a lot of parents will support the campaign, which is fair enough, but it seems wrong to force everyone's kids to take part in a protest against the government without even explaining what it's about. I'm afraid my DC will stand out if they're not in wellies, but I don't want to take part in this.

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midgetastic · 18/11/2024 22:27

Having done some investigation, the majority of small farmers won't be affected by the changes

Just the ones with kids in private schools - so I would suggest the welly wearing should be reserved for private schools only

glasses5432 · 18/11/2024 22:29

Bluebellyhedge · 18/11/2024 22:14

No Its not. It's closing a tax loophole thus requiring farmers that have wealth over a very high threshold to pay their fair share of tax.

It's also closing a loophole for very wealthy people to randomly buy farm land to avoid inheritance tax (apparently, relative who works in tax was rambling on this the other day but there really is nothing exciting about tax).

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Wishfives · 18/11/2024 22:57

You should email the head and ask exactly how small children wearing wellies achieves anything for the farmers? What claptrap .
I get you don't want your children to stick out but this is nonsense . You do what's right to you

XenoBitch · 18/11/2024 22:57

It is virtue signalling, and achieves sweet fuck all.

SeriousFaffing · 18/11/2024 23:05

crackofdoom · 18/11/2024 20:28

Hell would freeze over before I would let my children support a bunch of wealthy landowners masquerading as farmers to avoid their fair share of tax. The absolute shame of it 😡

@crackofdoom yes, fully agree.

Wear wellies to school to support farmers?
CouchSweetPotatoes · 18/11/2024 23:05

We have the same OP, “inviting children to come to school wearing wellies to support our local farmers”. I am not happy about it, and have been wondering about emailing the head. Seems a bit late now, but I didn’t have time to give it any thought before tonight! If this were on “farmers day” or something as a general supportive thing it would be fine, but it’s not, it’s specifically on the day that farmers are holding protests against government policy and I don’t think it’s right for schools to get involved in direct political protests.

NewName24 · 18/11/2024 23:11

Well done on e-mailing the HT @GrumpyDullard

Schools should not be promoting any political campaigns, let alone doing it without even telling families that is what they are doing.

SeriousFaffing · 18/11/2024 23:18

glasses5432 · 18/11/2024 22:29

It's also closing a loophole for very wealthy people to randomly buy farm land to avoid inheritance tax (apparently, relative who works in tax was rambling on this the other day but there really is nothing exciting about tax).

@glasses5432 exactly. Why is James Dyson buying up land in Lincolnshire, to the point that he now owns more land than the King?

https://whoownsengland.org/2017/09/19/why-is-james-dyson-hoovering-up-land/

Why is James Dyson hoovering up land?

Image: Eva Rinaldi, Wikimedia Commons, CC-BY-SA-2.0. Sir James Dyson, the inventor of the bagless vacuum cleaner, has been in the news a lot recently. A prominent supporter of leaving the EU from t…

https://whoownsengland.org/2017/09/19/why-is-james-dyson-hoovering-up-land

ichundich · 18/11/2024 23:21

Unbelievable. I hope the teachers who came up with this stupid idea didn't vote Labour. I would raise it with the governors because this kind of indoctrination really isn't acceptable. I'm against the IHT increase by the way.

User1253S367484 · 18/11/2024 23:30

It's anything above £1 million. That's basically one or two farm buildings and a bit of land. It's not cash.

It also includes the value of livestock and farm machinery etc. It isn’t just real estate.

SweetSakura · 18/11/2024 23:55

User1253S367484 · 18/11/2024 23:30

It's anything above £1 million. That's basically one or two farm buildings and a bit of land. It's not cash.

It also includes the value of livestock and farm machinery etc. It isn’t just real estate.

Someone earning £50000 net (so a fairly "good" salary as we are always told on Mumsnet) would have to work and save every single penny of it for 20 years to save £1m

It's a life changing amount of assets for someone to inherit and we need to stop pretending it isn't.

TPJB · 18/11/2024 23:56

crackofdoom · 18/11/2024 20:28

Hell would freeze over before I would let my children support a bunch of wealthy landowners masquerading as farmers to avoid their fair share of tax. The absolute shame of it 😡

You really have no idea do you? Most farmers are only rich in land and earn very average wages. A new combine harvester can cost £250,000. They will be forced to sell off parcels of land to pay IT and ultimately farming in the UK will not be sustainable.

Littlemissgobby · 19/11/2024 00:36

I have been listening to the radio all day about and even the national unions of farmer that have a magazine the journalist from there was actually saying that it’s not going to hit as many farmers that think they’re going to be hit by it.
this particular journalist even said that people are being whipped up into a frenzy because there’s misinformation and disinformation I believe it isn’t just about this. I noticed that since 2016 because of Brexit farmers are having a bad time trying to export goods and things like that so did they come onto the streets then? How come the conservatives are trying to make political point here when they have not been a friend of the farmer either.
Also, I also found out that some far right groups are going to attach themselves to the protest tomorrow because they’re trying to claim that the land is the reason why labour is doing this so they can convert the places for asylum seekers

QueenBitch666 · 19/11/2024 00:37

Absolute bollocks 😂

Littlemissgobby · 19/11/2024 00:38

TPJB · 18/11/2024 23:56

You really have no idea do you? Most farmers are only rich in land and earn very average wages. A new combine harvester can cost £250,000. They will be forced to sell off parcels of land to pay IT and ultimately farming in the UK will not be sustainable.

I have listened to experts all day on the radio and majority of farms etc won’t be hit by it and if they are it’s not as much as they think. The journalist from the farmers magazine whatever it’s called said this

StandingSideBySide · 19/11/2024 00:49

Creativebeachlady · 18/11/2024 21:20

The school I volunteer at is doing this tomorrow too. We are rural too but they have explained it as an opportunity to educate children on how and where our food is grown and that it is good to buy local and British. It is more of an appreciation of local farmers and market gardeners. It is not a political move at all but just an effort to create awareness of where our food comes from. I guess they have 'invited' you so you don't have to if you don't like it. I very much doubt it is a political statement-schools have far bigger things to worry about than farmers getting taxed.

Good post.
OP do what you want to do or what your kids want to do.
Just tell them what’s going on and ask them

StandingSideBySide · 19/11/2024 00:55

crackofdoom · 18/11/2024 21:17

I thought that was £1 million per person, so the threshold for a typical farming couple was £2 million? Plus the farmhouse is not included in this, so the real threshold for a family farm is somewhere near £3 million?

The farmhouse is included but as with most residential property the first £325,000 isn’t. The rest is though.
Most farmhouses are tied to the land

ThreeDoorsDown · 19/11/2024 01:00

My children don’t take part in any political campaigns such as this. Although only one left in primary now, he won’t be wearing wellies and not just bevahse we don’t own any wellies but we encourage him to think for himself. Politics has no place in schools.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 19/11/2024 01:02

Sorry to sound mean, but the fact that 60% of farmers in the UK supported Brexit (which has made life more difficult for probably 95% of farmers) suggests to me that a lot of farmers have a tendency to support/not support political stuff based primarily on feels, vibes, emotions and prejudice. Rather than by looking carefully at the policy and looking carefully at their farm and its management and making sensible, rational choices. So I'm afraid I'm rather unmoved by the lates bout of hysteria from (some of) the farmers.

The discussion I have seen suggest that most farms will be completely unaffected, those who "could" be affected can largely avoid it by taking good tax advice, and that the current situation is resulting in multimillionaires buying land as a IHT dodge which then pushes up the price of farmland for farmers in general, esp young farmers.

Toastandbutterand · 19/11/2024 01:52

SeriousFaffing · 18/11/2024 23:18

@glasses5432 exactly. Why is James Dyson buying up land in Lincolnshire, to the point that he now owns more land than the King?

https://whoownsengland.org/2017/09/19/why-is-james-dyson-hoovering-up-land/

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And why aren't people angry about this?

Toastandbutterand · 19/11/2024 01:53

Who organised this?

Bluebellyhedge · 19/11/2024 06:06

We're on a cost of living crisis. Why shouldn't ruch farmers pay their taxes like everyone else. Taxes that pay for the NHS, education etc etc.

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