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If you are someone who drives down a slip road towards a busy dual carriageway with no intention of stopping ….

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 14:49

Where do you think the cars are going to go if they is no space to go into the outside lane?

There is a really bad junction I’m currently dealing with every day. He cars come down the slip road in convoy. No ability for me to slot inbetween and they show absolutely no sign of slowing down to wait to join the trunk road. If I have a car on my right, where do these people think I’m going to avoid a collision?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 17:54

Googleitbaby · 30/10/2024 17:45

You're supposed to match the speed of the traffic and no one should be looking to actually stop..... Unless they really have to but it's not the intended use of these junctions. So if there isn't a suitable gap to merge then you and the other cars on the main carriageway are perhaps too close to one another? Also the people on the main carriageway are supposed to maintain their speed so the mergers can match this, however since no one seems to know how to drive, this rarely works. The driving in this country is appalling and clearly we are doing something wrong when teaching and testing for driving.

🤣. Well I certainly can’t drive it seems. 33 years of driving. Clean license. Only accidents have been people driving into me from the side. Go figure.

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sandyhappypeople · 30/10/2024 17:56

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 17:52

I was driving at exactly the right speed for the conditions so that’s just not correct. It’s a road with average speed cameras all the way down it so no one is speeding. I was also braking to try and accommodate the cars but when I knew that wasn’t going to work I accelerated infront of them. What I haven’t got is a ‘disappear the car’ button.

average speed road.. they are the easiest ones for joing/merging as everyone is normally going the same speed!

They would have merged around you if you held your nerve.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 17:56

BurntBroccoli · 30/10/2024 17:52

Yes I think people have misread - OP is the one on the slip road joining the motorway.

One poster said she was a dick first speeding up, I think she meant she had to accelerate hard to get in front of someone who hadn't slowed (and created a gap) to let her in.
The dick here is the person not letting her in!

Nope. I am on the dual carriageway with four cars baring down on me from the left and overtaking cars on the right.

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 17:57

sandyhappypeople · 30/10/2024 17:56

average speed road.. they are the easiest ones for joing/merging as everyone is normally going the same speed!

They would have merged around you if you held your nerve.

Well that’s the million dollar question isn’t it. The first vehicle was a white van and I wasn’t prepared to see if he was on his phone or not.

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SparrowFeet · 30/10/2024 17:57

Just how close are you driving to the car in front of you to mean that a car can't come on to the motorway from the slip road?
Just leave more of a gap in front of you!

SnakesAndArrows · 30/10/2024 17:58

sandyhappypeople · 30/10/2024 17:52

If that's the case, it means you are going a lot slower than the joining traffic and should have stayed in lane and held back slightly to let them in instead.

Not necessarily. I’ve moved over at 70 to allow a slower moving car on the slip road to join. As soon as they’ve joined they’ve sped up to 70+ so I couldn’t move back in. Rude tossers, frankly.

claudiawinklemansfringetrimmer · 30/10/2024 17:59

BurntBroccoli · 30/10/2024 17:52

Yes I think people have misread - OP is the one on the slip road joining the motorway.

One poster said she was a dick first speeding up, I think she meant she had to accelerate hard to get in front of someone who hadn't slowed (and created a gap) to let her in.
The dick here is the person not letting her in!

That’s the literal opposite of what the OP is describing, if you read all her posts she is definitely the one on the motorway and not the slip

Waspie · 30/10/2024 18:03

I find the worst for these are traffic light controlled slip lanes. You get a sudden influx of cars all picking up speed and close to each other in one go. They are, as so many have said, supposed to merge in turn with the traffic already on the carriageway.

We have a notorious junction locally where two lane slips merge onto a two lane dual carriageway. They're fun as half the time the slip lane people won't even merge with each other let alone the main carriageway! I keep out of it by staying in the overtaking lane and doing 80

I swear some people on here have only read about driving in books and not done it in real life. I hope I don't meet them, they seem to have no empathy for the road conditions.

sandyhappypeople · 30/10/2024 18:03

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 17:57

Well that’s the million dollar question isn’t it. The first vehicle was a white van and I wasn’t prepared to see if he was on his phone or not.

it's a 99.9% certainty they would have just joined around you.

You should always back off for anyone slightly in front of you on the sliproad as they may not have seen you in their blind spot, obviously they should check that before moving out but not everyone does. As for anyone behind them, they will have seen you there and would have slowed to join behind you.

Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 30/10/2024 18:08

There is a junction near me that's a nightmare, quite short slip road and cars come flying down it at a speed that won't allow them to stop. Every time I'm coming up to it I move over to the fast lane until I'm past it.

CountTo10 · 30/10/2024 18:25

I've always believed that the cars on the motorway have priority and it would be dangerous for them to slow down to allow cars on the slip road on. If necessary cars on the slip road need to stop like at any junction until there is a space. Obviously if you can't you move over but when it's busy it's just not possible especially with the idiot middle land hoggers.

I fact the motorway slip road I use most often on the M62 often has a queue to join the motorway at busy times. The junction before actually has traffic lights on the slip road (not before. Literally just as you join the motorway) on a rolling cycle to slow the traffic on the slip road down before joining which flies in the face of all the posters saying slip road has priority and you have to let them on so they can maintain speed.

Googleitbaby · 30/10/2024 18:33

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 17:54

🤣. Well I certainly can’t drive it seems. 33 years of driving. Clean license. Only accidents have been people driving into me from the side. Go figure.

That's not something I'd be boasting about 🤣 I've never had anyone drive into me from the side or the back. That's not luck, it's because I'm aware of those around me. I've been driving just 2 years less than you have and it always puzzles me how people think the length of time since they passed their test makes them a better driver.
I'm always adjusting my driving to cater for others. Such as leaving a bigger gap in front if they're up my backside etc. However I have had extra driver training for my job so you can't help it if your style is outdated.

NeedToGetOutOfThisSomehow · 30/10/2024 18:34

Adjust your speed to allow a car in. If you know the junction is coming maybe start to adjust prior.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/10/2024 18:39

wow - well this thread explains a lot of the driving seen out there on the roads - if there is so much misinformation about something so simple...

Exactly. Now I know who these twats who expect you to pull over into the middle lane and cut those drivers up are, they're MNers.

Not necessarily. I’ve moved over at 70 to allow a slower moving car on the slip road to join. As soon as they’ve joined they’ve sped up to 70+ so I couldn’t move back in. Rude tossers, frankly.

And this ^. It happens so often, usually an Audi or a RR type car. A lorry driver on PH seems particularly unimpressed with this type of shite driving. I've been driving over 30 years and I still hate slip roads because as shown here, a lot of people appear to have no idea what the rules are around them.

SweetSakura · 30/10/2024 18:40

SnakesAndArrows · 30/10/2024 17:58

Not necessarily. I’ve moved over at 70 to allow a slower moving car on the slip road to join. As soon as they’ve joined they’ve sped up to 70+ so I couldn’t move back in. Rude tossers, frankly.

Just wait a moment then. You don't have to immediately ricochet back to the inside lane

MrsCarson · 30/10/2024 18:41

TinaYouFatLard · 30/10/2024 14:55

If I am aware of a junction like this I move into the right hand lane well in advance.

There's one by me too, I do the same.
Other than that I watch to see what's coming down the ramp towards the road I'm on and adjust my speed accordingly.

smooththecat · 30/10/2024 18:46

This thread is proof that no one knows how to drive. The cars on the carriageway have priority! The slip road cars have to give way. How do people not know this?

SnakesAndArrows · 30/10/2024 18:47

SweetSakura · 30/10/2024 18:40

Just wait a moment then. You don't have to immediately ricochet back to the inside lane

Wait for them to finish effectively undertaking me you mean? Well yes, I have to really, don’t I?

The person I quoted didn’t understand what the previous poster meant by this, and I was explaining. The driver joining is still wrong and inconsiderate. They should have matched their speed so I could move back in, and then overtake in the normal way.

If you don’t understand this you’re part of the problem.

SnakesAndArrows · 30/10/2024 18:48

smooththecat · 30/10/2024 18:46

This thread is proof that no one knows how to drive. The cars on the carriageway have priority! The slip road cars have to give way. How do people not know this?

It’s at the same time astonishing yet unsurprising.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/10/2024 18:49

This thread is proof that no one knows how to drive. The cars on the carriageway have priority! The slip road cars have to give way. How do people not know this?

I know, it's so scary, but it does explain a lot of the dreadful driving that I see!

SweetSakura · 30/10/2024 18:50

SnakesAndArrows · 30/10/2024 18:47

Wait for them to finish effectively undertaking me you mean? Well yes, I have to really, don’t I?

The person I quoted didn’t understand what the previous poster meant by this, and I was explaining. The driver joining is still wrong and inconsiderate. They should have matched their speed so I could move back in, and then overtake in the normal way.

If you don’t understand this you’re part of the problem.

I understand it, and I don't drive like that. But I don't get the dramatics over having to spend a few moments in the outside lane.

beetr00 · 30/10/2024 18:52

BlueEyedLeucy · 30/10/2024 14:52

I may be misunderstanding but in these situations it should be zipper merging. If you’re in the left lane and can’t move to the right, you adjust your speed to let a car in, as does the car behind, etc. The slip road shouldn’t have to stop to join a busy road.

this is not correct.

  • You must give priority to traffic already on the motorway: do not force your way into the traffic stream.

https://www.safedrivingforlife.info/advice/car-driving/develop-practical-driving-skills/car-driving-motorways-dual-carriageways/

Car driving on motorways and dual carriageways

Take the stress out of motorway driving with this step-by-step guide. Covers topics such as slip roads, lane discipline and using the hard shoulder.

https://www.safedrivingforlife.info/advice/car-driving/develop-practical-driving-skills/car-driving-motorways-dual-carriageways#:~:text=Joining%20a%20motorway%20or%20dual%20carriageway&text=Use%20the%20Mirrors%20%E2%80%93%20Signal%20%E2%80%93%20Manoeuvre,way%20into%20the%20traffic%20stream.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 18:52

Googleitbaby · 30/10/2024 18:33

That's not something I'd be boasting about 🤣 I've never had anyone drive into me from the side or the back. That's not luck, it's because I'm aware of those around me. I've been driving just 2 years less than you have and it always puzzles me how people think the length of time since they passed their test makes them a better driver.
I'm always adjusting my driving to cater for others. Such as leaving a bigger gap in front if they're up my backside etc. However I have had extra driver training for my job so you can't help it if your style is outdated.

Boasting 🤣

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SweetSakura · 30/10/2024 18:53

smooththecat · 30/10/2024 18:46

This thread is proof that no one knows how to drive. The cars on the carriageway have priority! The slip road cars have to give way. How do people not know this?

I know this. But I also know that it makes absolute sense for me to move across a lane to make it easier for people to join from the slip road if safe for me to do so. I also know that I need to leave decent space in front of me so it won't be hard for people to join.

Just because they should give way, it doesn't mean I shouldn't do my bit to joining easier

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 18:54

SparrowFeet · 30/10/2024 17:57

Just how close are you driving to the car in front of you to mean that a car can't come on to the motorway from the slip road?
Just leave more of a gap in front of you!

Four cars. No car in front which is how I accelerated to avoid a collision.

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