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If you are someone who drives down a slip road towards a busy dual carriageway with no intention of stopping ….

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 14:49

Where do you think the cars are going to go if they is no space to go into the outside lane?

There is a really bad junction I’m currently dealing with every day. He cars come down the slip road in convoy. No ability for me to slot inbetween and they show absolutely no sign of slowing down to wait to join the trunk road. If I have a car on my right, where do these people think I’m going to avoid a collision?

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HecatesBees · 30/10/2024 15:46

Changingplace · 30/10/2024 15:37

Indicate early enough and cars in the outside lane should clock that you need to move over to allow cars to join from the slip road and let you in, unless you indicate they might not realise, there’s no point just driving along towards a busy slip road and making no effort to give a gap, that’s just bad driving decision making.

Most of the time they will ignore you and close any gaps though

Raspberryripple11 · 30/10/2024 15:49

Changingplace · 30/10/2024 15:40

No, don’t accelerate to get in front, drop your speed and let them in, the driver behind you will see you’re breaking and realise why.

Have you considered doing an advanced driving training course? It might help if this is an issue.

This can be dangerous too though. Both the car on the main road and on the slip road can end up braking to the point the car on the main road is going dangerously slow. If the car on the slip road is ahead of you, then yes slow down slightly. But if they’re beside you, do not slow down.

decorativecushions · 30/10/2024 15:49

Coming to a complete stop on a motorway slip road is absurdly dangerous.

Obviously you should move over or slow down to allow merging.

Most motorways signpost to alert drivers of joining traffic well before the slip road

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MistyMountainTop · 30/10/2024 15:52

Jobsharenightmare · 30/10/2024 15:45

Step daughter had this in her recent driving test and was told you shouldn't "hog" the right lane. You could move before the slip road, not "well in advance". Alternatively, you adjust your speed down to accommodate arriving cars from the slip road. But those on the slip road should be judging the speed and traffic levels and driving accordingly.

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I hadn't moved 'well in advance' ! I had passed under the middle of the roundabout from which the slip road came and could see the traffic on the slip road.

Incidentally, some motorways have traffic lights to slow down/stop joining traffic during periods of heavy traffic, junction 11 on the M25 is one example

ShiteRider · 30/10/2024 15:55

It’s on both parties to anticipate the issue and adjust speed / move in advance.

Absolutely not safe to get in a pissing competition and speed up or refuse to adjust speed just to maintain a sense of superiority.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 15:55

Sillyseason · 30/10/2024 15:05

this, every time.

I don’t do this route enough to quite know where it is until I’m on to of it. It’s even worse as I’m then taking the next junction off which is a short way past this junction and I need to merge left pretty much immediately.

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Another2Cats · 30/10/2024 15:55

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No she doesn't at all. For example, a dual carriageway is really busy on a morning with both lanes full of traffic but still moving at 50-60 mph. Many cars definitely do not leave enough space inbetween them that vehicles merging from a slip road can safely join the dual carriageway.

It's necessary to stop and wait for a space in the traffic.

There are several junctions in the city where I live that are like this at peak times.

NoCarbsForMe · 30/10/2024 15:56

CocoapuffPuff · 30/10/2024 15:18

Ease off the acceleration and allow one car to slip into the gap that creates between you and the car that was in front of you. No stomping on brakes. Its about you using your head in advance of a situation that clearly happens with some frequency.
Are you seriously expecting a slip road to be used like a "give way"?
How'd you like to join a motorway from 0mph?

This!

Another2Cats · 30/10/2024 15:57

Raspberryripple11 · 30/10/2024 15:49

This can be dangerous too though. Both the car on the main road and on the slip road can end up braking to the point the car on the main road is going dangerously slow. If the car on the slip road is ahead of you, then yes slow down slightly. But if they’re beside you, do not slow down.

I've had exactly this happen to me. I can only image that the driver on the main carriageway thought that they were being "nice"

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 15:58

SweetSakura · 30/10/2024 14:55

Surely you should be moving into the outside lane? That's what I do? Or adjusting to let people filter in between?

I can’t move into the right lane as there are a flow of cars in that lane moving faster than me. I also have cars baring down on the slip road to merge coming at a fast speed with no tangible gaps inbetween. I just don’t know where they think I’m going to accommodate them.

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Grammarnut · 30/10/2024 15:59

BlueEyedLeucy · 30/10/2024 14:52

I may be misunderstanding but in these situations it should be zipper merging. If you’re in the left lane and can’t move to the right, you adjust your speed to let a car in, as does the car behind, etc. The slip road shouldn’t have to stop to join a busy road.

Exactly. You 'draw back' to allow a car in, i.e. break slightly to slow down as you approach the slip-road.

Another2Cats · 30/10/2024 16:00

ComingBackHome · 30/10/2024 15:14

As for the idea of a convoy…
They simply can’t go on the motorway as a group of 4 or 5 cars.

You think so? Perhaps you don't drive on dual carriageways at peak times? I see it all the time.

ShittyTitty · 30/10/2024 16:01

This is unreal how many people think that you have priority on a slip road.

Read the Highway Code people.

People already on the motorway do not have to slam their brakes on to let traffic on.

Kibble29 · 30/10/2024 16:01

Absolutely ludicrous for anyone to expect the car on the slip road to stop. If you’re in the left lane, have a bit of forward thinking and move to the right. Let the merging car in then you can move back to the left if that’s what you want.

If the right lane is packed or you can’t get over there, you still need to be thinking ahead, slowing down gradually, letting the car in, and off you both go.

Imagine a car having to stop on a slip road then join a dual carriageway in first gear while other cars are coming along at 70mph.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 16:02

SirChenjins · 30/10/2024 15:08

Are they? My son is learning to drive and he's taught according to the Highway Code - drivers joining adjust speed and merge.

I’ll admit I’ve been driving donkeys but I thought the same. Drivers merging on the slip road should be adjusting speed to merge seamlessly. I’m just not seeing any adjustment from the slip roads. They are barrelling towards me and I don’t have a magic disappear button.

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Mochudubh · 30/10/2024 16:02

The whole point of slip roads rather than straight junctions is that cars joining the main road match the speed of the traffic and merge rather than coming to a stop and have to accelerate from 0 to 70 on the main carriageway which is incredibly dangerous.

Nobody should be braking, at most you should only need to ease off or accelerate slightly to either let a car in from the slip or slot in if you are joining the main carriageway.

MistyMountainTop · 30/10/2024 16:02

@CocoapuffPuff

How'd you like to join a motorway from 0mph?

Junction 11 on the M25 (amongst others) has traffic lights on the slip road to stop joining traffic to 0mph

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 30/10/2024 16:02

You should be moving over preemptively.

Whether or not the Highway Code says merging traffic doesn't have priority, anyone with half a brain cell knows that not moving over or making room is just asking for an accident because traffic cannot merge from a standstill onto a 70MPH road.

Solomotree · 30/10/2024 16:02

I really don’t understand what you expect the slip road drivers to do if you won’t make space and there’s no gaps in the traffic as you say? If they stopped how would they ever join it?

ElaborateCushion · 30/10/2024 16:03

I would tend to let them merge in.

The ones that really piss me off are the ones that have plenty of space, panic and slam their brakes on or generally cause me to be concerned that they're just going to pull out! I take a slip road off the dual carriageway in the morning that it about 200 yards after an on-slip, so I can't move over, as I need the lane to get off.

The amount of times people end up getting stuck at the end of the slip road because they can't judge their merging properly, is so frustrating and fear inducing!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 16:03

Kibble29 · 30/10/2024 16:01

Absolutely ludicrous for anyone to expect the car on the slip road to stop. If you’re in the left lane, have a bit of forward thinking and move to the right. Let the merging car in then you can move back to the left if that’s what you want.

If the right lane is packed or you can’t get over there, you still need to be thinking ahead, slowing down gradually, letting the car in, and off you both go.

Imagine a car having to stop on a slip road then join a dual carriageway in first gear while other cars are coming along at 70mph.

But I can’t adjust for four cars without stamping on my brakes. That’s the point. I can adjust for one, not for four.

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 16:04

Solomotree · 30/10/2024 16:02

I really don’t understand what you expect the slip road drivers to do if you won’t make space and there’s no gaps in the traffic as you say? If they stopped how would they ever join it?

I can’t make space for four cars! I mean my options are to brake really hard or accelerate. I chose to accelerate today but it’s bloody dangerous.

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Kibble29 · 30/10/2024 16:06

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 16:03

But I can’t adjust for four cars without stamping on my brakes. That’s the point. I can adjust for one, not for four.

That’s totally fine. Adjust for one, let them on. Then the second car on the slip road goes behind you because the driver behind you on the carriageway has also adjusted their speed to create a gap.

This is all how it goes in a perfect world but we know drivers aren’t often like that, so I appreciate this maybe isn’t how it goes.

Also, the person coming onto the carriageway should also be forward planning. Looking down the slip road and over to the carriageway to see how busy it is, and adjusting their own speed, so it’s not all on the driver already on the road.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/10/2024 16:06

yarnbarn · 30/10/2024 15:11

People are misreading o think. OP is on the slip road wondering about the traffic behind her?

No I’m on the left hand lane of the dual carriageway taking the next junction straight after this problematic one .

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ByMerryKoala · 30/10/2024 16:07

I'm not sure I understand how you are finding this tricky, let one car in and get on with your journey.