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Anyone watching the Budget 2024?

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LadyofRutshire · 30/10/2024 12:13

I couldn't find a thread on today's budget. Anyone watching live?

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ThatsCute · 30/10/2024 14:55

ShakerRoll · 30/10/2024 14:39

Does anyone know if a spouse inheriting a pension will have to pay inheritance tax?

I have three young children and can't get life insurance because of my history of cancer. I've been paying extra into my pension as a substitute for life insurance, so that my family can pay off the mortgage with that if the cancer recurs and I die.

I'm unclear of the implications of the budget, would my husband have to pay inheritance tax on the whole pension?

A married spouse does not pay any inheritance and an unmarried partner pays the full inheritance amount due. Unless that was changed today—I didn’t listen to the entire budget.

HebburnPokemon · 30/10/2024 14:55

Cloverforever · 30/10/2024 14:04

What % is your employer's pension contribution? I know the police is 31%.

For comparison, mine is 3%. Hardly "slightly" better.

Lobby for better private pension then?

ShakerRoll · 30/10/2024 14:56

Thanks very much for your explanations @MargoLivebetter @user8754387 and @Another2Cats , really appreciate it.

Theseventhmagpie · 30/10/2024 14:56

Wintom · 30/10/2024 14:19

Why should farmers and their families be exempt from IHT? Most of the farmers I know send their children to private school. Having a 20% rate is very generous compare to us peasants who are not massive land owners and our children have to pay 40% of anything over 1 million inc our pension pots.

Read the book ‘Die with Zero’. It is all about passing wealth on or enjoying your wealth rather than hoarding it.

Everyone should care as the country needs farmers.
We’re just breathing a sigh of relief about carried interest, not exactly closed the alleged “loophole” have they? Like it or not the country also needs private equity. Will be leaving the thread now so bring the hate on 😂

BIossomtoes · 30/10/2024 14:56

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 30/10/2024 14:55

I do have pets, and realise how rare decent vets are, but I'm amazed by this - a pay rise in the hand v. a discount on bills that may never even happen? I'd take the pay rise every time, and put it towards my insurance.

Anyone sane would. I can’t believe anyone would fall for that.

dnasurprise · 30/10/2024 14:57

TheyAllFloatDownHere · 30/10/2024 13:19

If it's more than £1m.

Not even then as there is no inheritance between spouses. If your mum dies and leaves you her pension her estate (not you) will be taxed (the relief there might be a million or it might be less depending upon what happened with your dad and if she left you a house).

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/10/2024 14:57

HebburnPokemon · 30/10/2024 14:53

Yes I meant that typo, it was that bad.

Read that poster's updates. There was significant information missing from her first post, understandably in her circumstances. She's not buying a holiday home or a buy to let property.

OldieButBaddie · 30/10/2024 14:57

DayTimeRoses · 30/10/2024 14:53

Sorry if I've missed it - has anything been said about entrepreneurs capital gains tax relief at all?

"CGT rates for Business Asset Disposal Relief and Investors’ Relief will rise gradually to 14% from 6 April 2025 and match the main lower rate of 18% from 6 April 2026, to allow business owners time to adjust to the changes"

deflatedbirthday · 30/10/2024 14:59

HebburnPokemon · 30/10/2024 14:53

Yes I meant that typo, it was that bad.

Suggest you read all my posts

PinkFruitbat · 30/10/2024 15:00

Tax and Spend; classic Labour.

All eyes on the bond market…

dnasurprise · 30/10/2024 15:00

user8754387 · 30/10/2024 14:53

Well I listened to it and that isn't what she said. She said nothing about removing the spousal exemption. She literally tried to hide the pension change by saying one line on it.

If she has also removed the spousal exemption then that is massive. It would have a fundamental impact on people's finances

I'm reading the revenue notes (I am a tax lawyer) and she has not removed the spousal exemption. The only peiople who have even suggested that is possible is people on mumsnet who don't understand inheritance tax.

FriendOrNo · 30/10/2024 15:00

Persephonisima · 30/10/2024 14:55

Which jobs that require the same level of training ? Why don’t you do it if the pension is so amazing. Clearly as there are 40,000 nursing vacancies neither the pay nor the pension is great.

Plenty of jobs required the same level of training as those working in the public sector if not more...you are very blinkered

Meadowfinch · 30/10/2024 15:00

sharpclawedkitten · 30/10/2024 13:27

I do think the VAT rise on private school fees should have been at the start of the academic year, though. Don't disagree with it in principle but the timing is odd.

Don't worry. Given that a lot of schools haven't even been able to register for VAT yet, and Revenue & Customs seem unable to help, I still doubt the rise in school fees will happen in January.

Legislation has still to get through the house, which even if voted straight through, leaves only a few weeks given that Christmas is also in the way.

Personally I think it'll be April 6th 2025, ie start of new financial year, which is what they should have said from the start.

AKAanothername · 30/10/2024 15:00

ShakerRoll · 30/10/2024 14:39

Does anyone know if a spouse inheriting a pension will have to pay inheritance tax?

I have three young children and can't get life insurance because of my history of cancer. I've been paying extra into my pension as a substitute for life insurance, so that my family can pay off the mortgage with that if the cancer recurs and I die.

I'm unclear of the implications of the budget, would my husband have to pay inheritance tax on the whole pension?

Inheritance from a spouse is tax-free so your pension should be fine.

Apologies for being morbid, but one thing that's worth knowing is if you have a terminal diagnosis and less than one year to live you can usually cash in your entire pension pot tax-free. This doesn't apply if you have already accessed your pension. It can help make those final few months far less financially stressful.

Persephonisima · 30/10/2024 15:01

PinkFruitbat · 30/10/2024 15:00

Tax and Spend; classic Labour.

All eyes on the bond market…

What’s a classic Tory budget btw ? How did the markets respond to truss’ budget which was a capitalist’s wet dream ?

FriendOrNo · 30/10/2024 15:03

AKAanothername · 30/10/2024 15:00

Inheritance from a spouse is tax-free so your pension should be fine.

Apologies for being morbid, but one thing that's worth knowing is if you have a terminal diagnosis and less than one year to live you can usually cash in your entire pension pot tax-free. This doesn't apply if you have already accessed your pension. It can help make those final few months far less financially stressful.

Thanks for that, always handy to have more info on how pensions work

Persephonisima · 30/10/2024 15:04

FriendOrNo · 30/10/2024 15:00

Plenty of jobs required the same level of training as those working in the public sector if not more...you are very blinkered

So how do we make nursing attractive then ? Can hardly moan about the state of the NHS if you’re not prepared to pay us enough or even give us decent pension.

Another2Cats · 30/10/2024 15:04

midgetastic · 30/10/2024 14:47

If a farm is so small and niche that they can barely make enough is it really as valuable as to hit the million pound inheritance tax threshold? No idea as to the value of agricultural land !

Yes, in some parts of the country. Here is one example. I'm not too sure how much you're going to earn from 44 acres of cabbage.

House and land for sale (about 15 miles from where I live) for £1.3 million

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/152580743#/?channel=COM_BUY

Check out this Farm land for sale on Rightmove

Farm land for sale in Elder Farm, Waterbelly Lane, Sutterton, Boston, Lincolnshire, PE20 2LD, PE20 for £1,300,000. Marketed by Brown and Co, Lincoln

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/152580743#/?channel=COM_BUY

ThatsCute · 30/10/2024 15:04

HebburnPokemon · 30/10/2024 14:52

Tone death

What does “tone death” mean?

Lou7171 · 30/10/2024 15:04

PinkFruitbat · 30/10/2024 15:00

Tax and Spend; classic Labour.

All eyes on the bond market…

Well yes, this is what the country needs right now.

YourSnugHazelTraybake · 30/10/2024 15:05

shockeditellyou · 30/10/2024 13:33

Stop talking nonsense. I very much doubt you’ll be bankrupt due to inheritance. If you inherit a productive asset, it will either earn enough to pay the tax or you sell it.

Do you actually understand inheritance tax !! You have 6 months to pay, end off. Farms are generally land rich cash poor, if they sell the business to pay the inheritance tax then they are having to literally make themselves homeless and unemployed in one fell swoop. Farms are not a picture on a wall. That was one of the most ignorant posts I've seen in this thread.

FriendOrNo · 30/10/2024 15:05

Persephonisima · 30/10/2024 15:04

So how do we make nursing attractive then ? Can hardly moan about the state of the NHS if you’re not prepared to pay us enough or even give us decent pension.

I believe I have already answered that

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/10/2024 15:06

It means that poster was so keen to stick the boot in that she didn't bother to read the whole of a very fast-moving lengthy thread to see if anyone else had already made her point, she didn't read the OP's subsequent posts and she didn't proofread her own two word post.

mummymeister · 30/10/2024 15:06

anyone who thinks that the decision on land/farming is reasonable should watch the first series of Clarksons farm. farmers are asset rich and cash poor. they dont make huge amounts whilst farming and all they have is what was passed on to them to pass on to their kids. or do we just want to import all of our food and put boxes on the land for people to live in.

Another2Cats · 30/10/2024 15:06

ThatsCute · 30/10/2024 15:04

What does “tone death” mean?

I'm guessing it's probably a typo - tone deaf

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