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Dogs are everywhere?!

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LadyMonicaBaddingham · 27/10/2024 19:29

I took DS to a university open day today. Two separate families had brought their dog with them! Is this someone I've missed?! Why is this necessary?!

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azu · 28/10/2024 22:10

IKEAJesus · 28/10/2024 10:02

.If you really hate dogs that much, don't go to places where dogs are allowed.

So someone should jeopardise their education prospect because someone else can’t bear to be parted from a pet?

If they can't cope with being in places where dogs are allowed then perhaps University isn't the right path for them. Online courses might work better.

cookiebee · 28/10/2024 22:12

These dog hating twats can’t seem to go anywhere without being mobbed by dogs. This and similar wind up threads are pathetic. We all love our dogs, they are our family, I don’t give a toss that anyone finds it offensive if we compare them to having human family, deal with it tosspots!

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2024 22:15

cookiebee · 28/10/2024 22:12

These dog hating twats can’t seem to go anywhere without being mobbed by dogs. This and similar wind up threads are pathetic. We all love our dogs, they are our family, I don’t give a toss that anyone finds it offensive if we compare them to having human family, deal with it tosspots!

I love dogs, and I never get mobbed by them. Maybe I should rethink things, and hate them. Might get some proper dog fuss then!

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vodkaredbullgirl · 28/10/2024 22:21
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Think I will go to bed and take my dogs with me

cookiebee · 28/10/2024 22:22

Dog hater “the high street please driver” (turns head to notice passengers, runs off bus screaming!)

Seems to be all these dog haters daily lives just about!

Dogs are everywhere?!
Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 22:22

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2024 20:44

Service dogs magically don't set off people's allergies or phobias it seems.

I don't think there is anything wrong in not liking dogs. There are lots of things I don't like, but the level of vitriol aimed at them and their owners, even responsible ones, gets too far on here.
And the dog haters seem to think dog owners are one homogenous mass. I am a responsible dog owner, and I do not like people who leave shit everywhere, or allow their dogs to jump up etc.

I go to a MH group, and we have a regular therapy dog attend. She is lovely, a French Water dog. She gets so much fuss. I think she gets more out of her sessions than the clients she is seeing.

Of course a service dog will set of an allergy. As previous posters have said its the amount of dogs in confined spaces where people are having food they object to and also which creates stronger reactions to people who are allergic. An occasional service dog is not depositing the same amount of dander and they are always highly controlled. Again its the old story. If people are genuinely allergic to dogs they get no sympathy from owners who treat it like an insult. A previous poster stated her child needed an ambulance after being in close proximity with a dog. I believe there should be separate areas where dogs are allowed well away from those who genuinely don't like dogs, are scared of them or most importantly have an allergy to them. That way everyone is happy.

CrazyGoatLady · 28/10/2024 22:25

Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 20:58

I'm presuming you mean why is inside with dogs worse than outside with dogs if you have an allergy to them.

The simple answer is space and fresh air. As long as I don't touch the dog or let it lick me I'm fine outside when they are around as will others with the same allergy. Indoors, for example sitting at a table in a bar where dogs are allowed, the dander will be permanently in the air,on the seats etc. If there is more than one dog on the premises its worse. As I've already mentioned the dog doesn't have to be in the room although the reactions are worse if they are. It's the dander left behind that causes the problem. A single dog hair can cause a reaction due to the dander on it. Perhaps if bars and restaurants where dogs are allowed made their dog friendly areas totally separate there would be less complaints. Regardless like many posters I don't believe they should be allowed in supermarkets or for example places like John Lewis. Again with the exception of service dogs.

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Thanks, but I meant to ask why you seemed to be implying that you don't go in places where dogs are allowed indoors (which I totally get, I'm allergic to cats so would not go to a cat cafe!) but it was a problem that there were so many of them in outdoor public spaces too. But maybe you weren't saying that and I got the wrong end of the stick! I was thinking of public spaces like parks, streets, outdoor spaces on a uni campus, that type of thing. But perhaps you are saying places like John Lewis count as public spaces.

I'm not sure I would like to try to take my dog to John Lewis to be honest! Aside from the fact that it's about 100 mile round trip to go to one 😂I can't say I've ever thought of that as a good place to take your pet. I wonder if I could take my pygmy goats there too 🤔

IKEAJesus · 28/10/2024 22:27

azu · 28/10/2024 22:10

If they can't cope with being in places where dogs are allowed then perhaps University isn't the right path for them. Online courses might work better.

If someone can’t cope without their dog then maybe university isn’t the right path for them. Perhaps try studying from a kennel?

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2024 22:30

IKEAJesus · 28/10/2024 22:27

If someone can’t cope without their dog then maybe university isn’t the right path for them. Perhaps try studying from a kennel?

I think in the case OP posted, it was a family outing involving the dog too. Some kids go to uni at the other end of the country, so their family and dog came.
Not sure why the parents had to go to start with, but that could be a whole different thread.

azu · 28/10/2024 22:33

Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 20:58

I'm presuming you mean why is inside with dogs worse than outside with dogs if you have an allergy to them.

The simple answer is space and fresh air. As long as I don't touch the dog or let it lick me I'm fine outside when they are around as will others with the same allergy. Indoors, for example sitting at a table in a bar where dogs are allowed, the dander will be permanently in the air,on the seats etc. If there is more than one dog on the premises its worse. As I've already mentioned the dog doesn't have to be in the room although the reactions are worse if they are. It's the dander left behind that causes the problem. A single dog hair can cause a reaction due to the dander on it. Perhaps if bars and restaurants where dogs are allowed made their dog friendly areas totally separate there would be less complaints. Regardless like many posters I don't believe they should be allowed in supermarkets or for example places like John Lewis. Again with the exception of service dogs.

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'....with the exception of service dogs'.
As @YeOldeGreyhound said, they magically don't cause phobias or trigger allergies....funny that. They also don't rub against clothes (?!) or make the floor wet with their paws in Costa.
The dog-hating people on here are weird. Is it just dogs they hate or animals generally? Going out from their sterile homes into The World must just mean stomping around in a perpetual state of anger. Thank god I live in the countryside and also don't encounter this at work either.

Popcorn23 · 28/10/2024 22:36

abonymousAnon · 27/10/2024 20:09

Funny enough I was thinking same today! Was having lunch with my kids and a dog charged towards our table! My youngest screamed to be told by the owner “don’t worry! It’s friendly”

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Ooh, I hate those kinds of owners so much!

I've had dogs sniffing around my child's pram which sets me on edge, and the owners just looking on smiling indulgently at the dog saying 'he's just curious'.

No! Get your dog away from my pram!

UserNameNotAvailable9 · 28/10/2024 22:38

rainbowboymama · 28/10/2024 20:21

I really hate this response from people when their dogs are charging at your children!! The reason our 7 year old has a phobia of dogs is due to the lockdown Cockapoos everyone went out and bought, and let them run off lead with no re-call, to then jump up at toddlers/anyone available, leaving them petrified! It happened on a few separate occasions and each time, when the owners finally appeared from god knows where, they’d be shouting “IT’S OK, THEY’RE FRIENDLY, THEY JUST WANT TO PLAY!” I’d have to explain that my screaming child is petrified as their dog is double the height of him once they’ve jumped up at him!! Not one apologised, they all seemed beyond offended that my child was screaming….

I run. I get chased and jumped on by dogs in parks more often than you would imagine.

I was once bitten by a dog. The owner continued to assure me they were friendly while the thing had its jaws clamped on my ankle. It wasn’t a bad bite but there was blood.

I like dogs fine. But I do think owners can sometimes be very dismissive.

Gimjam · 28/10/2024 22:39

This thread is one of the funniest things I have ever read on Mumsnet 😂

azu · 28/10/2024 22:40

IKEAJesus · 28/10/2024 22:27

If someone can’t cope without their dog then maybe university isn’t the right path for them. Perhaps try studying from a kennel?

We have students with guide dogs and hearing dogs. They can't 'cope' without their dog, no.
We don't have students coming bringing family pets (although at some Universities students may stable their horses nearby). I imagine that the two dogs that were mentioned were probably with the parents and family pets. Or, again, working dogs.
So your comment was, of course, miserable and predictable.

mumto2teenagers · 28/10/2024 22:41

I like that we can take our dogs to most pubs or cafes, after a long walk it's nice to stop off somewhere for a drink. I personally wouldn't take our dogs shopping as think they would rather be at home on the sofa, but I don't have an issue with people who do.

Most dogs I see in pubs and cafes, sit quietly on the floor and don't bother anyone.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 28/10/2024 22:41

A friend of mine is pissing me off at the moment.

She has got some kind of teacup-doodle type dog and is now saying she is going to "train it as a service dog and get it a service vest and everything" so that she and her son can take the dog everywhere. She is not in the UK.

Her son has ADHD but does not in any shape or form require dog-accompanyment and they always lived without a dog up until now without him somehow being unable to leave the house. This kind of thing pisses me off. "I have ADHD and enjoy petting my dog and feel vaguely that this helps my ADHD" is not the bloody same as "I am blind and I need a dog actually with me when I am out of the house to help me to navigate roads safely etc."

There is a need for some hard conversations about this crap. People do not have the right to lug dogs everywhere for emotional or psychologial reasons; talk to a counselor and find a different coping mechanism, please.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 28/10/2024 22:42

mumto2teenagers · 28/10/2024 22:41

I like that we can take our dogs to most pubs or cafes, after a long walk it's nice to stop off somewhere for a drink. I personally wouldn't take our dogs shopping as think they would rather be at home on the sofa, but I don't have an issue with people who do.

Most dogs I see in pubs and cafes, sit quietly on the floor and don't bother anyone.

That is because most of us who think dogs stink just suffer in silence, rather than making a fuss. We still notice the smells, especially in wet weather.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2024 22:44

GreenTeaLikesMe · 28/10/2024 22:42

That is because most of us who think dogs stink just suffer in silence, rather than making a fuss. We still notice the smells, especially in wet weather.

A smell wont kill you. Get a grip. Some people smell worse than dogs.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2024 22:46

There is a need for some hard conversations about this crap. People do not have the right to lug dogs everywhere for emotional or psychologial reasons; talk to a counselor and find a different coping mechanism, please

Yes, it so annoying when someone on a mobility scooter clogs up an aisle in a shop. They should find a different coping mechanism.

Mamabear999 · 28/10/2024 22:48

Does my head in. I think 50% of dog owners can’t read either. At a National Trust place that had signs everywhere saying dogs must be on leads and the amount of dogs off leads was ridiculous.

Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 22:50

azu · 28/10/2024 22:33

'....with the exception of service dogs'.
As @YeOldeGreyhound said, they magically don't cause phobias or trigger allergies....funny that. They also don't rub against clothes (?!) or make the floor wet with their paws in Costa.
The dog-hating people on here are weird. Is it just dogs they hate or animals generally? Going out from their sterile homes into The World must just mean stomping around in a perpetual state of anger. Thank god I live in the countryside and also don't encounter this at work either.

Just another poster who suggests people who are allergic to dogs hate them. They might as well say I don't care if you are allergic to nuts I'll sit next to you if I wish. It's not my problem. Yes we do get reactions with all dogs but as I keep saying it's the amount of dander that's relevant to most dog allergy sufferers. The occasional assistance dog will not leave the copious amounts of dander left by regular dog visitors & there would rarely be more than one at a time. My local cafe has been known to have 6 in a small space. An absolute nightmare for those with the allergy. Needless to say I'm quite happy to avoid it.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2024 22:54

Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 22:50

Just another poster who suggests people who are allergic to dogs hate them. They might as well say I don't care if you are allergic to nuts I'll sit next to you if I wish. It's not my problem. Yes we do get reactions with all dogs but as I keep saying it's the amount of dander that's relevant to most dog allergy sufferers. The occasional assistance dog will not leave the copious amounts of dander left by regular dog visitors & there would rarely be more than one at a time. My local cafe has been known to have 6 in a small space. An absolute nightmare for those with the allergy. Needless to say I'm quite happy to avoid it.

Brutal, but your allergy is not my problem. It would be the same if you had a peanut or shellfish allergy too.

azu · 28/10/2024 23:17

Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 22:50

Just another poster who suggests people who are allergic to dogs hate them. They might as well say I don't care if you are allergic to nuts I'll sit next to you if I wish. It's not my problem. Yes we do get reactions with all dogs but as I keep saying it's the amount of dander that's relevant to most dog allergy sufferers. The occasional assistance dog will not leave the copious amounts of dander left by regular dog visitors & there would rarely be more than one at a time. My local cafe has been known to have 6 in a small space. An absolute nightmare for those with the allergy. Needless to say I'm quite happy to avoid it.

I think there is plenty of evidence on this thread that there are many people who are claiming allergies are also expressing their hatred towards dogs (and others that just hate dogs because they may make the floor wet in Costa). Surely in a real life scenario, you would just say that you were allergic to a dog/nuts/their perfume whatever and the other person would respect that and both parties would keep their distance.
A close family member has a very severe nut allergy. They do not expect people to not eat nuts when out. Because it is unrealistic. Outside of workplace environments, or when it is specifically stated to those using an environment that someone has an allergy (such as schools) people don't tend to restrict or drastically alter their lives just in case someone they encounter may have an allergy.

Mnetcurious · 28/10/2024 23:25

Forwhatitsworth18 · 28/10/2024 22:50

Just another poster who suggests people who are allergic to dogs hate them. They might as well say I don't care if you are allergic to nuts I'll sit next to you if I wish. It's not my problem. Yes we do get reactions with all dogs but as I keep saying it's the amount of dander that's relevant to most dog allergy sufferers. The occasional assistance dog will not leave the copious amounts of dander left by regular dog visitors & there would rarely be more than one at a time. My local cafe has been known to have 6 in a small space. An absolute nightmare for those with the allergy. Needless to say I'm quite happy to avoid it.

It’s also the fact that now there are so many dogs and they’re allowed in almost everywhere, the likelihood of someone with a dog allergy having to encounter a dog when they want to go to a cafe, for example, is very high. If it was limited service dogs only, the chances would be way smaller because only a fraction of dogs are service dogs.
Edit - I can see that’s more or less what you’re saying!

ShamblesRock · 28/10/2024 23:31

Why do people act so dickishly towards others with animal allergies?

The number of dogs who jump up at me when I go to people's homes (work) is unreal, though I always had a soft spot for the Great Dane who would almost knock me over as he walked past. There are many badly trained dogs in properties that are not suitable for them. There are some dogs that are not leading a great life, not necessarily neglected, but not having their needs well met. I wish this could be talked about without accusations of being a dog hater.