Thread 10 Starmer: First Female Chancellor delivers the Budget

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5178726-thread-9-starmer-return-to-westminster?page=40&reply=139304132

as someone who also has a family farm which is not actively farmed & no one farming as it’s not worth it I feel I can make a comment.

isnt the other side of the coin the hope that this will slow down the likes of Clarkson & Dyson buying up farmland as a tax avoidance & therefore hopefully the price of farmland will reduce, thereby allowing those who actually want to farm a chance to purchase & enter the industry that most are currently priced out of.

ps - my truss mortgage is £550 extra a month!!

Genius!

Oh, come on MNetters - this surely wins the internet today ! 😂

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1852299669478514951

Running tally of all the kinds of 'working people' we've heard about in the coverage of this week's Budget

• Buy-to-let landlords

• Rural landowners
• Second-home owners
• Parents of private school children
• Anyone with a nanny

Thank you. I was quite pleased with it!

That puts the £1000 per year worse off comments in perspective

Dyson and Clarkson are producing food for this country and providing employment for people. Why in god’s name are you hanging on to the farm? You could clear your mortgage in a trice.

Dyson & Clarkson are arseholes. Jobs provided by there doesn’t need Dyson or Clarkson , the jobs would still be there and available to those not looking to avoid tax.

Dyson and Clarkson will have no trouble paying the IHT

I thought Dyson (proud Brexiteer) paid his tax in Singapore anyway...

I don't think he employs many British workers either

Well not if they’re like and put their land in set aside.

Clarkson’s a knobhead but the one good thing he’s done with his money is Clarkson’s Farm, showing how the odds are stacked impossibly against British farmers. He can afford to make mistakes and to battle against the Parish Council etc but he never tries to hide the fact that the average farmer can’t afford to have those mistakes and battles. Even little asides like Kaleb’s “I could tell you’re a rock star farmer…..you left the diesel engine running” to the organic farmer guy (forget his name) are there to highlight that Diddly Squat is not a typical farm. It’s a vanity project and tax dodge, for sure, but I think along the way Clarkson has learnt an awful lot about the reality of farming, even if his money will cushion him from any serious hardship.

I see this thread is being discusses as why MN is leftist

Against Talk Guidelines that, isn’t it? . Still, nice to know a bunch of Randoms with wildly varying political views can rattle trolls, goady fuckers and twats

Set aside went years ago, far better ways to get subsidy even now.

This thread is good on the effect on farms - I think some people are trying to worry small farmers to rattle up some outrage.
https://www.threads.net/@danneidle/post/DByaIATIyzj?xmt=AQGzGT-05267b-D2vO-S4ZBCpS061gk3-xVKtH1MacjN4w

Keir and Rachel did lots of posing with farmers holding up signs saying‘We’re backing farming’ What a pair of liars. Farmers have had so many kicks in the teeth recently. I include the Tories in that. It doesn’t affect all farmers but it affects some and why should their mental health suffer.

"Against Talk Guidelines that, isn’t it? . Still, nice to know a bunch of Randoms with wildly varying political views can rattle trolls, goady fuckers and twats "

Amazing how many people dislike these threads and yet can't help consistently lurking.

I'd wave to them but that probably is against the spirit etc.

As I said before (maybe not on this thread) I do get the small family farms thing. I used to live in a very rural area and lots of my friends were one-man-band type farmers. I think (based on the thread I linked) that the changes will not be the disaster some are stirring up. Obviously nobody’s mental health should suffer, but nobody is trying to cause that. It’s worth considering why farms are treated differently (even after this budget) than other family businesses - there are ways in which they are different, but I don’t think necessarily substantial ones.

I’m laughing so much at ‘ordinary cat clique’. . Ooof, what a Buurrrrrn!
Anyway, that’s about 3x as much attention as those posters deserve so..

Blimey. They are a bit wound up about these threads. We are doing something right!

I've spotted a name change so that's handy.

Afaik this was the planned outcome of the policy.

However it doesn't sound like the consequences will be just as planned but I hope they listen and a solution can be found. We certainly don't want to be losing farmed family land to IHT.

Maybe just a clause that any land actively being used for farming is discounted? And any machinery value.

Perhaps just residential buildings count as they would for anyone?

There has to be a middle ground somewhere that does what's intended without unintended dire consequences?

It's the politics of camaraderie envy IMO - reminds me of the school-gates/cliques posters in some ways