Thread 10 Starmer: First Female Chancellor delivers the Budget

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Jeremy Clarkson has already banned Starmer from his pub

I recognise a few of those farmers as avid brexiteers.....

Farmers always complain... its in their nature.

I just forgot why I went into the kitchen, sat down and reached for the drink I went in for. Dammit, I watch 8 minutes of Grey's Anatomy...

I have yet to hear a single farmer either share their Brexit bounty, or apologise for encouraging their communities to vote for Brexit (although it's hard to fight the creeping suspicion that no encouragement was needed).

At least the fishermen had the decency to employ a few thousand more people after their Brexit bonus boat came in.*

*This is sarcasm of the lowest form.

And vets. They seem to have a very odd business model, apparently some of them offer their employees 40% discount on their pets’ bills instead of a payrise.

To be fair to vets, I don't recall them being particularly vocal during the referendum.

In fact I have a vague memory that they did sound a distant alarm about livestock import/export and it's potential pitfalls ... or did I imagine that.

This is the most animated he has been in years. More relaxed I suppose ....thing of the sunlit uplands of California....

I think the main problem we have with vets post referendum is that we don’t have enough to do the checks. But I don’t think this is worrying the vets as much as everyone else.

Yes something about EU vets working in abattoirs etc

I've just binned my considered opinion of Sunaks response. I can't improve on yours 😂 😂.
Ps good luck with the DWP.

I loved the horror at the idea that the vet should reduce his profits! I'd have had more sympathy if she had said that the business was going to fail as a consequence of the budget - or even that they might have to let some of their staff go. But no! They'll have to reduce their profits. Shock horror. True capitalism/Conservativism in the wild.

Sunak just waiting for his title Lord Sunak !!

I've been quite cheered by the fact that a) there aren't as many threads in Active Convos moaning about the budget as I expected, and b) the one I was reading seemed to have a generally positive response.

It was interesting, too, that many posters clearly never usually bother to watch PMQs or live broadcasting of the Budget (or other parliamentary debates), from their reactions to the shouting and general heckling. Which is a good thing - politics is becoming more engaging.

I've been quite cheered by the fact that a) there aren't as many threads in Active Convos moaning about the budget as I expected,

Needs a grasp of facts to really engage, I think.

Hadn't logged into MN for ages and couldn't find the thread originally but have missed these!!!

When did the lack of grasp ever stop them?!

I joined this thread on the day of RR's first speech as Chancellor. It's been great to find a balanced discussion where we can disagree but keep it civil. I've avoided those other threads (who needs the crazy) but dipped in today - and from what I can see most posters are pleasantly surprised. Meanwhile, The headline news is £40bn tax increase.

It's certainly not stopping the Carer's allowance thread in it's tracks.

I do wonder how that CapsLock poster and their Bloomberg terminal are getting on.....

Post budget froth is quite subdued.

Cautious optimism

Never. It’s interesting that all the criticism is coming from the usual tired old suspects.

Isn’t it just. Flippin’ tiresome. Cannot bring themselves to admit that there’s anything positive in it. Maybe I should tell them that John Redwood in the Guardian is somewhat impressed with it. That’ll blow their minds 😂

Leaving aside this government’s dishonesty - that’s a matter for later days - I can genuinely say that, as a Tory, I thought it was a clever budget.

The potential difficulty with it is long term.

I strongly support housing reform so I’m happy to applaud moves in that direction. But I didn’t hear anything that made me think it will be achieved. More inspectors - which will take a long time to put in place - won’t help. They need to legislate for sweeping powers over the planning process. Maybe that will happen. If it does it will cost a lot of constituencies: that’s not a reason not to do it, but it will be a test of government’s mettle.

And the NHS injection looks like money wasted. The NHS might benefit from even more money, sure. But what it really needs is radical reform. I didn’t hear any emphasis on reform. Again, maybe that will come separately.

The downsides of raising so much tax by hitting business are slow burners. The spend-to-‘invest’ could work. But if it doesn’t, there will be hell to pay with unemployment and economic shrinkage.

The budget to watch will be in 2028.

BTW, I really can’t get behind RR as a good performer. It’s great that we have the first female Chancellor. But her delivery is terrible. Not as bad as Starmer’s, but still awful.

It’s great that we have the first female Chancellor. But her delivery is terrible
Really?

I find that so odd, can't get my head round it. I thought her delivery was really really good. I am just not sure what there was to criticise about it?

I thought so, too. And I don't like her very much!

Where is that one, please? (Rolls up sleeves).