Disposable vapes being banned

[BuzzieLittleBee]

This has been confirmed today - coming into effect in June.

Looking at the bigger picture, this can only be a good thing. The environmental consequences of these are hideous, and they surely encourage a lot of 'casual' vaping.

They are also clearly big business. Newsagents, corner shops etc make a fortune from them (not just from the vapes but from the add can of drink, packet of crisps etc that people pick up when they go in for a vape). And I assume vaping shops also sell a lot of them too.

Will the banning lead to fewer kids vaping, I wonder? I hope so.

I've used the disposable vapes to stop smoking, first thing I said when it was on the news this morning to DH was I will jus have to start smoking again 😂

I've yet to find a refillable vape I like, I think I will need to go speak to a specialist shop to get me set up

@Lucy25 I don't think it's because of the flavours
I tried vaping in 2013 and there were loads of flavours available then but the differences were
You couldn't just buy them anywhere, you went online or to a vape shop
They weren't disposable
You didn't see them everywhere you went

I don't want tobacco flavour as I've quit smoking

I think if it went back to available online or vape shops only then that would be better

I’d like to see the end of all of them. The view from that hill is just peachy.

I certainly agree about portable coffee mania.

If someone is serious about quitting smoking thay could go to a smoking cessation nurse/ clinic/ practice nurse and get the prescription. There are probably other ways we could make it easier to get the prescription as well. Of course if people are determined to take up smoking again they were probably never serious about stopping long term.

Do you have evidence that people who buy bottled water are forcing themselves to drink water rather than wanting an easily accessible source of water when they do feel thirsty?

The link's 'idea of carrying around 500ml of water for a 20-minute journey on the London Underground' is clearly misleading. People who carry bottled water are not thinking they must drink during this short journey, but simply wanting to have access to water if they do want to drink.

Your link also says this: "Davy guesses this is because mild dehydration of around 1-2% is quite common, and many people may not realise when this happens – and even this mild level can affect our mood and energy levels." This suggests people should in fact be drinking a bit more than they feel their bodies are signalling to them.

@MissyB1 but again making it harder
I work FT, so how do I get to this overwhelmed cessation place? Are we creating more and making them available weekends?

Personally I would remove everything from shops and make it only available online and vape shops
This wasn't an issue in 2013 and the only thing that's changed is disposables are available and they're available everywhere

So make them harder to get hold of but not that hard for adults. If you can choose to buy cigarettes and alcohol with your own money without a prescription then you should be able to buy a vape, which is safer

What's wrong with making it hard? Why encourage people to swap one addiction for another? We don't know the long term effects of vaping yet, it could well turn out to be another future burden on the NHS. And why do people view this as "I smoke or I vape" no one has to do either!

Because there has been studies into vaping, it IS safer, there's been hundreds of threads on the safety of vaping on here with studies linked and interesting information which is why I haven't linked anything
It's the same argument over and over again

My haematology consultant, doctor, dentist all are so happy I vape

Nobody made this much fuss about nicorette inhaler safety or chewing nicotine gum
Cancer research, the NHS, public health England all say it is much safer than smoking

Obviously it is, you're not inhaling tar for a start

Apparently a lot of them are being sold outside of licensed premises. So whilst it might make some impact they will still be available if you know where to go.

@buffyfaithspike - vaping will still very much be allowed. It's just disposable vapes which are being banned. They are an environmental nightmare, and make it way too easy for kids to vape for no reason.

If people are using vapes to quit smoking, or as an alternative, this will still be a perfectly accessible option.

Good, I wish vaping was banned completely, it smells disgusting, almost as bad as smoking

I know for a fact shops are making a fortune from them.

https://ash.org.uk/media-centre/news/press-releases/four-in-ten-smokers-wrongly-believe-that-vaping-is-as-or-more-harmful-as-smoking

Sure would it be better if nobody did either, but if you're going to do one then pick vaping
It would be better if nobody ate ultra processed food or drank alcohol and exercised the recommended amount but life isn't perfect

Someone will bring up popcorn lung next and then it's thread bingo

Because when the original method of nicotine delivery was the most pleasurable and effective - which it is to a smoker - and the vapes are the most tolerable alternative in terms of accessibility, price, shape, weight, usage and taste, deliberately removing the one method/form that has been proving successful in avoiding the cigarettes is a stupid idea.

Most people who smoke weren't keen on changing brands of cigarette because it made a difference. Most people who vape having smoked first have tried cold turkey, have tried patches, have tried gum, have tried the NHS inhalator, have tried different vape brands. The one that sticks is the best choice and it's shortsighted to remove a huge section of the market that has expanded at the same time as there has been a huge reduction in cigarette smoking.

Make it hard and it fails.

I’m not sure of the link with private schools here. I would imagine it’s June to give time to sell off the stock

A round of applause for the most creative way yet to shoehorn VAT on school fees into an unrelated thread. 👏

The Tories were going to ban disposable vapes in 2025 too. Funny how it is suddenly a bad idea for some posters...

Good, about bloody time. Should never have been licensed in the first place.

GOOD. I loathe vapes. My Dds school manually turns off the fire alarm each morning 'otherwise it'd continously go off from pupils vaping in the loos'. Horrible.

Where did anyone say it’s a bad idea?

The only bad thing about it is that it won’t be implemented sooner.

Labour have acknowledged that this was a plan put forward in January, and have simply said they're following it through. They're not even claiming it as their own idea!

saying vapes are safer than cigarettes is a bit like saying chopping off your own finger is safer than chopping own arm. Completely true but not that meaningful in the grand scheme of things.

Nah, rubbish.

It’s more like chewing gum v chewing tobacco.

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Well as others have said, the existing stock needs to be used up etc. Labour is just using the same timescale that the Tories set out.

When the plain packaging for cigarettes legislation was introduced, there was a lag of about a year before full implementation to give retailers and manufacturers time to adjust as needed. Same principle applies.