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why is Kelly Jay Keen banned from mumsnet?

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chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 14:30

I just wondered why Kelly Jay Keen banned from mumsnet?
seems odd as its a site for Mums and children and KJK is trying to stop indoctrination and mutilation of children and protecting womens spaces and rights?

OP posts:
BarbaraHoward · 23/10/2024 16:15

You're not allowed to say anything they deem negative about Trans stuff on here otherwise you get your posts deleted.

🤣🤣🤣

SallyForf · 23/10/2024 16:19

Larrythebloodycat · 23/10/2024 15:19

I wasn't aware that she had been banned, but if she has, it's probably something to do with her going completely off the deep end lately.

Considering her ban was years and years ago, this comment is bizarre.

PerfectionIsAMugsGame · 23/10/2024 16:20

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 23/10/2024 15:49

You are more likely to get banned from MN for defending trans people at the moment

rubbish

the feminism board is much more strictly moderated for everyone

HA! Now THAT is rubbish. I was suspended for a week for asking a poster why they were deliberately being unkind and choosing to mispronoun someone. And you are absolutely not allowed a moderate opinion, you must be vehemently anti-trans or you are, by default, a brainwashed non-thinker who hates women.

But, whatever. That's not the OP's Q and I don't want to derail. KJK is a nasty piece of work, whatever her alleged motivations and I'm delighted she's banned.

I'll leave this thread so this comment can be ripped to shreds, it's nice to occasionally feed the foaming-at-the-mouthers! Off to change my username again....😂

TheSilkWorm · 23/10/2024 16:21

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 14:35

can you be specific about which guidelines she disnt adhere to ?

Loads of them. It was about 6 years ago IIRC so I'm not sure why anyone could be expected to remember and tell you now!

Thommasina · 23/10/2024 16:22

PerfectionIsAMugsGame · 23/10/2024 15:45

Literally all the feminism chat boards are now are people being negative about the trans community under the guise of 'protecting women' (which I believe in, btw, I just don't think I have to be a dick to someone about it), so I strongly doubt it was just expressing an anti-trans opinion. You are more likely to get banned from MN for defending trans people at the moment. 😂

Yup. I worked out how to unfollow the "feminism" board and mumsnet is suddenly a much nicer place to be. Personally I am glad that KJK is banned, I remember some of the things she said and they were outrageous - cue posters falling over themselves to accuse me of being a child abuser/women hater/man.

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 16:28

SpiggingBelgium

I wanted to get a discussion going about an issue most people dont want to discuss!....sort of worked 😊

OP posts:
SallyForf · 23/10/2024 16:30

So not a good faith post?

BIWI · 23/10/2024 16:30

So you're admitting to starting a goady thread, @chrisharwood - careful, otherwise you'll get banned too.

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 16:31

no its not a goady thread

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 23/10/2024 16:32

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 14:35

can you be specific about which guidelines she disnt adhere to ?

Probably all of them and God help anyone who suggests she is anything other than perfect, all her posse will pile on too.
She is a great advocate for womens rights and has been very brave in the face of awful unwarranted abuse but I wouldn't want to sit down for a drink with her (which I am sure she would be ok with)

purplebeansprouts · 23/10/2024 16:32

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 14:35

can you be specific about which guidelines she disnt adhere to ?

How would we know? Only MNHQ and anyone who saw all the posters posts will know. It's a bit odd asking about one person's mumsnet posts or is she a celebrity or something?

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 16:32

it was a good faith post but incidentally resulted in a discussion that was interesting

OP posts:
Thommasina · 23/10/2024 16:33

Are you KJK?

PlanetCats · 23/10/2024 16:35

Firstly, KJK is not a feminist. Several of the posts here imply that she is.

Secondly, KJK has stated that she will never return to Mumsnet, even if her ban is overturned. Therefore, the fact that she's banned is irrelevant.

Thirdly, KJK usually speaks live and without script. Therefore, she has worded some things badly due to the is, which she apologized for years ago.

aesoplover · 23/10/2024 16:35

Years ago (possibly 10+) she was extremely rude and actually harassed me over a post I'd made, pming me and asking if I'd changed my mind over what I'd written yet.
(What I'd written about was fairly "low key" about a personal situation of mine so it was completely over the top to have pursued me in this way).
It actually quite upset me and it's no surprise to me that she's since been banned.

SabreIsMyFave · 23/10/2024 16:36

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 14:30

I just wondered why Kelly Jay Keen banned from mumsnet?
seems odd as its a site for Mums and children and KJK is trying to stop indoctrination and mutilation of children and protecting womens spaces and rights?

Genuinely have no idea who that is.

How do you know they've been banned?

ilovesooty · 23/10/2024 16:36

StarSlinger · 23/10/2024 15:03

For breaking talk guidelines I assume. Same reason anyone else is banned, She was just another poster, not anyone special.

Exactly. If you breach the guidelines often enough you get banned. She was presumably subject to the same moderation as anyone else.

aesoplover · 23/10/2024 16:36

aesoplover · 23/10/2024 16:35

Years ago (possibly 10+) she was extremely rude and actually harassed me over a post I'd made, pming me and asking if I'd changed my mind over what I'd written yet.
(What I'd written about was fairly "low key" about a personal situation of mine so it was completely over the top to have pursued me in this way).
It actually quite upset me and it's no surprise to me that she's since been banned.

And this was nothing to do with any trans debate btw

StarSlinger · 23/10/2024 16:42

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 16:28

SpiggingBelgium

I wanted to get a discussion going about an issue most people dont want to discuss!....sort of worked 😊

The issue is discussed more than any other on MN, well maybe not as often has how often do you shower, but it's up there.

AlisonDonut · 23/10/2024 16:44

chrisharwood · 23/10/2024 16:28

SpiggingBelgium

I wanted to get a discussion going about an issue most people dont want to discuss!....sort of worked 😊

What issue is that then?

AlisonDonut · 23/10/2024 16:46

ilovesooty · 23/10/2024 16:36

Exactly. If you breach the guidelines often enough you get banned. She was presumably subject to the same moderation as anyone else.

Er no, that's not how it worked.

MN had different guidelines for the FWR board, and TRAs could contact MNHQ on twitter [in fact were encouraged to do so] and make whatever reports they wanted to make, on twitter and then women on here would get banned without any actual knowledge of why.

Rubixcoobe · 23/10/2024 16:48

larklane17 · 23/10/2024 14:37

She didn't buy naice ham and used a toilet brush.

😂

TheSilkWorm · 23/10/2024 17:30

AlisonDonut · 23/10/2024 16:46

Er no, that's not how it worked.

MN had different guidelines for the FWR board, and TRAs could contact MNHQ on twitter [in fact were encouraged to do so] and make whatever reports they wanted to make, on twitter and then women on here would get banned without any actual knowledge of why.

She knew why 😆 so did everyone else around at that time. It was quite obvious.

anxioussister · 23/10/2024 17:39

PerfectionIsAMugsGame · 23/10/2024 15:45

Literally all the feminism chat boards are now are people being negative about the trans community under the guise of 'protecting women' (which I believe in, btw, I just don't think I have to be a dick to someone about it), so I strongly doubt it was just expressing an anti-trans opinion. You are more likely to get banned from MN for defending trans people at the moment. 😂

This is the crux of the issue right here

I believe in supporting women. I believe you can support women just fine without being a dick to someone about it.

There is a difference between ‘x makes me uncomfortable and I’d like a safe space to talk about why’ and ‘x is really f’d up anyone who thinks otherwise is a child abusing paedo / in league with Hillary Clinton and her human trafficking super cabal’

I don’t think it’s very difficult to work out why some people get banned and which don’t… (although the professionally outraged will rage!)

SallyForf · 23/10/2024 17:41

anxioussister · 23/10/2024 17:39

This is the crux of the issue right here

I believe in supporting women. I believe you can support women just fine without being a dick to someone about it.

There is a difference between ‘x makes me uncomfortable and I’d like a safe space to talk about why’ and ‘x is really f’d up anyone who thinks otherwise is a child abusing paedo / in league with Hillary Clinton and her human trafficking super cabal’

I don’t think it’s very difficult to work out why some people get banned and which don’t… (although the professionally outraged will rage!)

Edited

Another one with KJK living rent free in their head even though she's not been on MN for aeons.