They don't want us to have a choice over death do they?

[Hunnymonster1]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2lyl8jrvlo.amp

This is so bloody annoying why are we so backward compared to other countries? Other countries have this sorted like america.In some states, belgium, holland, Switzerland.
They are not gonna allow this to happen are they? Which means the rich will go and pay dignitas and the poor will suffer. I am starting to get so annoyed by the mps of this country
Am I being unreasonable into thinking that they are backwards and should have given maybe the British public a referendum on a subject matter so important to individual people. If not a ref why is our country so backwards

I just found out he's a Christian so I wonder if it's that

There will be a free vote in Parliament. Most MPs will listen to their constituents and think carefully before deciding. There will be some whose religious beliefs will decide for them but Wes Streeting isn’t one of them, he has given his reason and it’s nothing to do with religion.

I'm not religious and I'm against assisted dying.

I'd be absolutely fascinated to see what result a referendum would produce.

I’m not religious and I’m against this.

I’m an atheist and I’m against this. Look what is happening in Canada.

It makes me angry that the majority of people want the option for a humane chosen death and people like him intend to block it.

After watching my husband die a slow death from cancer I wholeheartedly agree, they want us to have no choice.

Do a majority really want it?

Or do a majority really want proper care for those suffering and in pain?

How long before people over 60 / disabled / mental health problems / people at the start of cancer/ dementia "encouraged " to "take control" and basically kill themselves to save money?

If they do go ahead with this I would like to see protections such as "you cannot pass inheritance onto anyone of you choose this option"

We need that choice, I will choose that if my Parkinson’s gets very bad, rather nursing home, it needs proper regulating tho.

let me tell you, you have not control nor choice over death. Be careful what you wish for and don't boast about things such as these because if death visits your family today and you lose your most precious, what you will have to say to others

Out of interest what's happening?

That's a fucking ridiculous idea - you'd guilt-trip people who wanted to end their suffering into staying alive longer in order to pass an inheritance to their family.

Your title doesn't match the headline - Wes Streeting is one mp so his voting no doesn't constitute 'them' not letting us have a choice. There is a free vote so if enough MPs believe it's a good idea /what their constituents want it will go ahead.

I think it's a complex issue and shouldn't be reduced into emotive soundbites by those on either side of the debate.

After watching someone die a slow painful death assisted dying should absolutely be an option. It's horrific to see a human being die like that, we don't allow animals to suffer so why people

I was always very pro-euthanasia until I watched Liz Carr's documentary on the BBC, "Better Off Dead?" I was quite shocked by some of the things on there, particularly what's happening in Canada.
I'm not now anti-euthanasia. But the complexities of implementing such a law are vast. It's right that it's not legalised willy nilly - many will need protecting from it.
I'm also an atheist.

I don’t want my Aunt and my Mother and my MIL (and probably myself) eventually to choke to death in a nursing home when Alzheimer’s, having taken their personalities and their dignity, finally takes their ability to swallow.
It should be possible to make a living will that says “when I am doubly incontinent, permanently distressed and no longer recognise my loved ones, please put me out of my misery”.
We wouldn’t treat an animal like this, but it’s okay for humans?

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The only country where it seems that assisted dying is just that - end of life, no other solution - is Switzerland.
Other countries?

• australia: an elderly man waited for 1 year in hospital because they couldn’t organise some care at home (carers twice a day). After a year, he decided AD was right for him
• netherland: a few months ago, a young woman autistic and depressed decided that AD was right for her. No support available
• Belgium: being to,do at each appointment with oncologist tyat ‘you know AD is a possibility’. Never mind you’re still doing chemo, have potentially several years in front of you.
• Canada: we won’t give you the painkillers you need but you can have AD.

Nope sorry. Sort out end of life care. Stop leaving that work to charities and start taking it seriously Invest in healthcare, and social care And THEN, we might want to talk about it. Otherwise, its just cutting healthcare and social care cost with a new name.

I want the right to choose a quicker & humane death if all I've got to look forward to is a painful & miserable existence until the end. I don't want the end of my life dragged out for months or years in a care home or hospice.
Those of you who disagree already have the choice that suits YOU and that's fine, if it's what you need then good for you. If you don't want assisted dying then don't YOU choose it, but allow us that do want it, the right to choose for ourselves. My body, my life, my end should be my choice.

After watching my husband died in agony due to the appalling end of life care in this country. I fully support this bill for terminally ill people ONLY. He begged me to do something to help- the guilt at his suffering will never leave me .I've already contacted my MP but she won't support the bill due to her religious beliefs 😔 . If I was diagnosed with a terminal illness I would want the choice - I think it's inhumane making people travel to Switzerland , often weeks early so they're still able to travel

Re the various comments about dementia and Alzheimer.

Yes death from dementia is shit.

But how are you going to deal with AD in that case?
The person needs to agree to it.
That means the person needs to have all their faculties.

Do you think people will happily chose death when they still right enough in themselves?
And when they can’t recognise people and you can argue their QoL is poor, they can’t take that decision….

Or do you want whoever has PoA to decide? Usually their child/ren?

I'm for this but with strong safeguards in place.

I want to have the choice for myself should it be needed and therefore for others too.

Out of curiosity, has anyone read "The Lotus Eater" ? (it was on the syllabus when I did O level lit).

Like others have said, I have absolutely no intention of spending my last days being a burden to others when I can’t even remember who they are and whether I care about them. Absolutely no chance will I do that to my kids. I’m going to die at some point, may as well do it before I cause them significant distress.