Chris Kaba - why was there a prosecution?

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I have only seen the recent coverage but it seems undisputed that this man was in a car involved in a violent crime, he had a history of involvement in violent crime and in being stopped he used the car as a weapon to try and get away which endangered everybody around him including the police.
So was the potential crime the amount of force used? Because otherwise it seems hard to understand and I can completely appreciate why so many officers laid down arms as a result.
Please explain!

Not sure if your statement was agreeing with mine or not.

On one thing you said I agree - people in leafy surburb and coastal towns with plenty of disposable cash buying the drugs, these are often the same people whining on about knife/gun crime and poor little kiddies getting exploited in county lines but they see it's all happening in cities and think it's nothing to do with 'their' little habit. It's everything to do with them. They are the one's buying coke and weed - they are the ones ultimately causing the bloodshed all the way down the line.

@ticktickticktickBOOM I'll try and write more clearly. I was agreeing with you.

Yup - I've known drug users who clutched their pearls at the possibility that Madeleine McCann was abducted and trafficked by drug dealers. By incredible coincidence, it didn't upset them enough to stop doing drugs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lg54y71r2o

Honestly, some of the comment I have been seeing about this case really make me wonder if people live in the real world. Not just on here.

The car, was involved in a shooting shortly before this incident. It was entirely reasonable to work on the presumption there could be a gun in that car. The police didn’t know if there was or not. But they had to assume there could be. It was a reasonable assumption that there would be a him in that car.

So disable the vehicle? And if there was a gun in the car and Chris Kaba shot a police officer in the face once he realised he wasn’t going anywhere? Is that ok?

Someone saying They should have shot him in the shoulder or leg. Again, giving him chance to potentially get a gun out? And how do you shoot someone in the leg when they are in car.

He did have a weapon. He was using his car as a weapon. As many people have before him.

Calling it an execution or saying it wasn’t for the policeman to decide his guilt and kill him? That makes absolutely no sense. It wasn’t an execution and the police officer wasn’t deciding whether he was guilty of a crime. The police officer was judging whether the man behind that wheel was a danger to life. He clearly was.

He was driving in a way to cause harm and/or death. Should they have just let him drive off? And what if trying to get away he killed someone else? Would that be ok, or would people want to know what the police were thinking letting him leave? Chris Kaba was a danger to life that night.

and given the family have tried to keep his past from coming out now (they wanted the reporting blackout to continue) while they make out he is was a lovely bloke, they clearly want to continue a narrative that suits them that is a complete lie. Honestly, I don’t get how they dare portray him as an excited father to be when he wasn’t even allowed near the mother due to his own violence. It’s sick.

The knots people are tying themselves into, to pretend there’s was other easy options that would have stopped him being a danger to life, right at the moment, is odd to me.

I seriously cannot believe the nerve of Kaba's family using his "expectant father" status to garner sympathy even though the child's mother had a restraining order against him! FFS. I understand that they're grieving, but after a point the excuses stop holding water.

Public figures, especially politicians, need to stop giving knee-jerk reactions to cases like this. Diane Abbott said Kaba had been killed while "going about his daily life" (well, technically, I suppose she was right). A few years ago, Abbott said BLM activist Sasha Johnson was shot for "standing up for racial justice" - within days, it emerged that the gunmen were black, and that the shooting had been an act of gang violence. As an MP, Abbott should have known that statistically, this was the likeliest explanation: gun violence is far more strongly linked to gang activity than to racism.

Calling it an execution or saying it wasn’t for the policeman to decide his guilt and kill him? That makes absolutely no sense. It wasn’t an execution and the police officer wasn’t deciding whether he was guilty of a crime. The police officer was judging whether the man behind that wheel was a danger to life. He clearly was.

You hear the same logic on cases where home-owners have shot burglars. "But we don't have the death penalty for burglary in the UK..." You're right, we don't. Doesn't mean self-defence is illegal.

You seem to be on first name terms

As for the rest of your posts - you seem to be missing the point. He wasn't executed. He was lawfully stopped

And other than his family, who cares

Well, Chris Kaba would obviously disagree with you - he was trying to avoid a trial at any cost, and he did avoid it. Next time just stop for police if you want a trial

They don't send four police car to stop little old ladies, do they? You know he was dangerous just based on that, and he very quickly proved it right.

However, Chris Kaba came from a two parent household.
And most Black single mothers on low incomes manage to bring up their sons without them entering the criminal justice system.

Couldn’t have put it better myself.

Also, to add to this, a car that was linked to a recent shooting/murder, so how were they to know he didn't have a gun on him and would shoot them?