Chris Kaba - why was there a prosecution?

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I have only seen the recent coverage but it seems undisputed that this man was in a car involved in a violent crime, he had a history of involvement in violent crime and in being stopped he used the car as a weapon to try and get away which endangered everybody around him including the police.
So was the potential crime the amount of force used? Because otherwise it seems hard to understand and I can completely appreciate why so many officers laid down arms as a result.
Please explain!

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This is irrelevant. The streets would be safer without a lot of unpleasant people; that doesn't justify gunning them down. He should be in custody, not dead.

Murder under English law absolutely doesn't require planning or premeditation. You may have been watching too much US TV.

The prosecutors would have had to tie themselves in absolute knots to find a way to charge a man who'd deliberately shot someone with manslaughter. It's either murder or it's self-defence / defence of others and not a crime at all. There's no room in English law for a reasonable sounding middle way of "sort of self-defence but you overdid it a bit"

The police officer didn’t know who he was.

On sky news they have now said this expectant father isn't allows to see mum because of domestic violence order??

• Yes Kaba was a violent criminal cunt that not many will mourn
• no, that doesn’t mean a police officer should be allowed the power to execute him. Where does that lead, it’s not justice.
• particularly pertinent when he didn’t know who was behind the wheel, hence he killed a random man in his own perception

He killed a random man trying to ram him.

I'm not sure how to interpret your post. But I think what you are suggesting is that , the officer acted on instinct due to his perception of the danger he / they faced at that moment in time and not because of who was behind the wheel. In that case- I totally agree with you. These officers have literally a matter of seconds to make that call, and itv seems in this case it the right one.

I don’t think I’ve ever thought this about the taking of human life before but with this whole affair I just have an overwhelming sense of: “good riddance”. Probably because of the dire injustice that the officer and his family have been put through all of this for just doing his job to protect the rest of us from violent, murderous, woman-beating gang members like this shit-bag.

Perfectly-put! 👏🏻 🤩

Absolutely, well articulated.

Totally ridiculous hyperbole and in no way representative of the 2 year investigation and judicial process that has just been completed. Did you have your fingers in your ears while all that was going on?

Now the poor officer has a price on his head. These people don't value life, they're the scum of the earth and bring nothing but death and destruction to society

I don't care (in a law situation) about his past because the officer didn't know this.
People in this country are entitled to to judge and just and defence.

It's bloody disgusting- police cannot be allowed to become judge, jury & executioner
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There are ways to subdue without lethal force and if police officers cannot do this. Then they have NO business being police offficers.
Furious at this

Do those expressing sympathy for Kaba also hold the same amount of sympathy for the girlfriend he beat up whilst pregnant? The person he shot in a nightclub? The many young boys he coerced into county lines?

If not, why not?

If he had not been shot and rammed his way out putting all the police around him at risk of death but also the public what would be said then had an innocent civilian been killed by his car? The police are there to protect us.
On this occasion they protected us the public from a violent out of control manic.

To be honest I had not followed the case and when I got home from work I heard those three ladies speaking and I was moved and impressed by their speeches.
However today I feel duped by them and cannot believe they went to such lengths to present him as a sweet Stephen Lawrence type, expectant father wannabe arithect??

He can't even go near the mum, domestic violence? HOW did that woman feel being used in that way?? County lines which ruins and destroys hundreds of uiub

Because in this country the police don't just have immunity, they can and do commit crimes.

There was clearly enough evidence to query whether the shooting was murder or not. Clearly, the CPS thought it was in the public interest to prosecute.

After a trial by his peers, the police officer was found not guilty.

That's how the justice system should work.

Young lives and a shooter himself??

I don't understand why the.CPS pursued this given Kaba was using his car as a weapon. They have now put that police officer at risk of being killed himself. That poor officer and his family seeing his name all over the papers knowing that Kaba was a gang member. What a joke the justice system is.

@PlanetCats put it much more succinctly than me!..

No accountability from the family or people speaking out, I feel duped by them.

@FancyNewt totally agree.

Maybe it was fear of violence and riots if it wasn't investigated.

I totally agree the met needs an overhaul but what happens to us all if people just don't want to go into the police anymore??

People like Chris and his gangs will take over.

Good riddance. If you don’t want to be shot by a police officer, don’t be a violent criminal.

CK’s family ought to be ashamed of what he was, not lording him as some sort of victim.

He didn’t kill a random man, he killed the man posing an imminent and credible threat to the lives of his colleagues.

I'm interested to know how you would subdue someone without force who has their foot on the accelerator of a 2t car, trying to ram into everything and everyone in his way.

So every police firearms incident where there's a fatality is murder? To be fair setting down a oath potentially decades ago and dedicating an entire career just to kill this one guy shows a level of intent that verges on clairvoyance....

What do you think the officer should have done? Not seen a single reasonable alternative being suggested so far...