Why does life seem to shit in the UK

[RosieLeaLovesTea]

Endless threads about schools going down the pan and poor behaviour in schools making teachers want to leave.
NHS waiting lists and quality of care medical is poor.
housing market market in crisis and affordability of housing

I read the threads and it feels like life in the UK is really shit. Plus crap weathe for 8 months of the year.

how did we get here snd what is the solution?

Hmmm. You actually haven’t read the thread. Just pointing out that there are so good things about being here and challenging the blanket idea that it’s shit everywhere here and idyllic elsewhere.

You think the BBC is right wing? You are the deluded one, they are guardian reading luvvies at their finest, they treated every tory politician they interviewed like dirt, they may as well be on their knees everytime a Labour politician is on there.

Haven't RTFT but Brexit. Years of austerity, then the massive hole in income/tax take from the firms leaving UK after Brexit, plus loss of income for all those UK firms who used to trade in the EU. Plus impact of climate change now hitting.

I went to Dublin for a few days last month. Really noticeable how much more wealthy the Republic feels than UK now. People far better dressed. Prices higher. That didn't use to be the case. But why people would assume you could leave a market of 28 countries, set up barriers all over the place, and not have a massive, massive hole in the accounts when those who have the choice leave, well it baffles me.

But you're wrong on a couple of points. Immigrants are net contributors to the NHS. They contribute more than they take. I've read this countless times. There was a good report in the Financial Times, for example.
Secondly, it's a bit of a myth that the majority of migrants to the Europe make their way to the UK. Of all the African and Asian migrants that come to Europe, around 5% -15% try and come to the UK. This doesn't fit with the narrative that we're fed about everyone wanting to come here to milk the system, but it's true. Other European countries take far higher numbers than us.
I'm all for having a debate on the pros and cons of immigration but if people are just going to base their arguments on misinformation then I can't be bothered.

It was 100x better than this.

I agree with that.

They don't clear them near me|! They were there for six months. I complained to the police who never replied, and the council who said they had 'rights' and their legal team was on it. God knows how much it all cost the tax payer. I know the clean up operation cost over £40,000 alone. As I said earlier in the thread.

W(bankers) crisis
Tories (exploiting NHS etc over last decade)
Brexit (as above & BJ propaganda on buses)
Pandemic (& UK poor handling by BJ et al)
Global conflicts (Ukraine)

Weather - climate change

Not necessarily in that order

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Sorry to hear this.

I agree there is a lack of attention and management in public spaces by many dog owners unfortunately. I am not afraid of dogs, but been hurt by and my DC hurt by dogs with careless owners.

There are many lovely owners who manage their dogs really well but agree you can’t go into a green space easily without being approached by dogs.

Do you ideas for how this could be addressed?

Well apart from people from third countries I don't see Europeans desperate to come here anymore.

My god wake up, over a million people came in to the UK and no more than 1% work for the nhs. The left spout this rubbish endlessly because any real study by someone such as migrationwatch showing the true cost is deemed racist.

and on the subject of the nhs it is fundamentally broken, and this started during the Blair government with expanding PFI(we know the tories invented it, Blair used it in anger). It needs a complete overhaul but funny everytime the tories mentioned that the left screamed “privatisation” yet starmer now proposes to use private healthcare to reduce the waiting lists (but thats ok though). The same with Rwanda (but Albania is ok). Utter hypocrisy.

17, 16 and 14. 17 yr old is joining the Royal Marines in April so just the youngest two coming with us. Both quite excited.

This shitshow is in large part down to the monumental act of self harm that was the scum tories Brexit plan. Except the weather. Though that too is largely the result of uncontrolled of pollution that is hastening the end of the human race and funded by tories and their donors. Plan B has been adopted though I fear we are already too far gone to hope that a little back paddling to extricate us from the mire.

There are just too many people jammed onto this small island. I'm sorry, but 65 million is crazy. I'm in rural Essex and honestly feel like I'm suffocating. The traffic is awful – so bad that I avoid going out. My local woods have been hacked down to make way for a new housing estate and a second estate has also been built at the other end of the village. On top of that, we've been told the fields in the centre of the village have been sold to developers. The main road into town is also going to have 500 new homes built along it. That road is clogged with traffic now, so what the hell is going to happen when an extra 500 cars are added? Developers know there is a high demand for housing and they take advantage – building horrible little rabbit hutches and squeezing them on top of one another. It's really affecting our quality of life. Any zookeeper will tell you that if you cram too many animals into one cage they become distressed – pacing up and down, biting their fur, and attacking each other. We're just not meant to live like this.

I think they are quite keen, hence talk of youth schemes from some EU countries. Not sure if it will happen though

It's not the number, it's the way they're concentrated in relatively small areas of the country, whilst there remains huge swathes of "empty" land. Politicians just havn't seized the initiative to implement infrastructure schemes to spread people out more, and to populate more areas currently unpopulated. Added to that is the way that organisations and firms have concentrated their jobs in a few small areas of the country, leaving a massive vacuum behind in towns where there is infrastructure, empty homes, etc., but little employment, so people born there simply move away after Uni and never return to their home towns. Spread the people out, spread the jobs out, and half the problem is solved.

Absolute rubbish! more Reform crap.

The mass x channel migration is a result of Tory right wing policies, primarily brexit.... note we did not have 45k migrants coming here pre Brexit, as we worked with the French to limit numbers, now they just point them to their own off shore refugee camp... aka the UK.

Eritrean men or anyone else crossing the channel to come are not doing any legal work at all.
We have a points based system, which under Rishi Sunak, allowed in 764k people in one year alone!

Perhaps if the tories had funded the health service, as needed due to their crazy immigration policies, we wouldn't have 3m people on long term sick?

You misunderstood me. I didn't say immigrants contribute to the NHS by working for it. They contribute more than they take from the NHS by paying taxes. Most immigrants are young and healthy and don't take a great deal, but they do pay taxes. You can rant at me all you want but this is a simple fact. Believe me, I've researched this. It's true. It may not fit with what you believe but there you go.

Those 1m came in under a right wing Govt....

True , few work in the NHS but they all work... how would you replace people who want to work? with the sick? the elderly? the work shy? how would you fund the University sector?

Tory taxes are now the highest since WW2....

Rwanda could only take 500 per year max, 700 crossed the channel yesterday....
Albania and other countries used by the EU, allow successful migrants to into Europe, Rwanda did not, hence all the UK court challenges and changes to the law, none of which actually worked..... EU lefty policies have now halved migration into the EU....

PFI costs the NHS, 4 days of NHS send per year, its tiny in comparison to its budget & what would we do now without those hospitals??

the Tories had 14 years to reform the NHS but just made it waste more money, by outsourcing patient care, be it community care, social services, physio....

EU membership and also a very low corporation tax rate, which turned Ireland's fortunes around. May international companies are headquartered there now as a result (access to the single market plus low tax). They figured out that a smaller amount of a lot is better than a large proportion of not very much at all, hence they have healthy tax revenues to support a better standard of living for their citizens. The opposite of what the UK has done: erecting trade barriers to the EU market and raising tax rates.

I think the EU has forced them to raise their corporation tax as it was a very unlevel playing field for other EU countries as well as U.K. - so they have loads of money from eg Amazon but also have a lot of immigration and soaring house prices so not all good.

Headquarters offices of global businesses don't require large influxes of immigration, so I can't see how there would be a link between those issues.

We have a funny sense of values. The shortage of people to care for others is only a shortage because we pay minimum wages to people who are responsible for the lives of elderly and disabled people. They earn minimum wages

I am disabled. I have proved that. I have had helpers for over 30 years. In the past 24 I have had immigrant carers who are extremely kind and good at their job. They have come from all over the world, but mostly Africa.

I used agencies for a while. They charged over £20 an hour and paid their workers very little. They could not get people to work for them. One person said I was their only client and they had to earn more! Often the agency said they had no one, and no one came.

When one worker said she left them I employed her at the same rate the agency charged me: £20 an hour. That was in 2015. She stayed until 2019 when her DF died and DM had chemotherapy.

In that month, I employed an African carer, fled civil war. He stayed until July this year when he was diagnosed with liver cancer. Then his wife - also a nurse - broke her leg. They worked all through the lockdowns. Year on year he had rises of £1 an hour.

A carer from Ghana (military trained and in Lebanon with UN forces) came on a skilled worker visa) filled in until I found another, because they also worked in a care home and had little time. Now I have a Hungarian carer, who was very happy with £20 and works hard and will do anything asked of them.

When the disabled and elderly start realising that the people who care for them deserve more. there will not be a shortage of care workers. If the system could manage to do without the middlemen - agencies - then there would be no shortage of workers in care.

Immigrants here on a skill visa do have 'monitoring agents' who they have to report to. They cannot change their jobs, and most work in care homes on minimum wage. Life is actually very hard for them. They had no idea how cold the winters can be here. They don't realise how high the rents are and how expensive energy and food are. There isn't much left to send home.

I spend all my DLA and more. I don't have a lot of income. I think that people who work full time and cannot afford to keep a roof over their heads and food in their bellies are no better off in principle than the slaves. They might have better rooms than the wood shack, and better food, but that still makes them slaves if they cannot do more.

I think I have proved that there would be no shortage of care workers if they were better paid.

Then you are responding to and challenging the wrong person as I have never spoken in such simple dichotomy. Enjoy that wonderful town you live in