Why does life seem to shit in the UK

[RosieLeaLovesTea]

Endless threads about schools going down the pan and poor behaviour in schools making teachers want to leave.
NHS waiting lists and quality of care medical is poor.
housing market market in crisis and affordability of housing

I read the threads and it feels like life in the UK is really shit. Plus crap weathe for 8 months of the year.

how did we get here snd what is the solution?

Agree x

My DP is from France. His parents think France is just as shit (if not more) and think everything is great here (because they don’t live here). Everyone sees the worst of a country when they live in it and the best of other countries when just visiting.

@Sailonsilverrgirl Same sht sunnier weather more vitamin D, makes it feel more manageable in some countries.

If you wake up everyday to sunlight streaming through your blinds, your children can walk to school and play in parks with well maintained facilities, you get around town and into the city by bus, commute to work by bicycle or public transport, and you meets friends and gather in communal public spaces or areas of natural beauty.

Even if you are a low earner and can't afford to run a car, your life will have dignity and your mental health will be likely be in a far better state. These things matter.

"Manageable" in this sense is better, no?

It’s only shit if you work, but hopefully only 4 more years of this garbage, before we can get back to some sensible attempt at running things. Otherwise everyone will divorce and leave their jobs 3 months before retiring, so they can at least get a pension.

Whaaaaat? We had 17 years of ‘sensible attempt of running things’ and that’s what got us here!

Hahahahahahahahaha.

"Sensible attempt" my fundamental orifice.

Three.

I agree this lot are going to make things worse, but the other lot are still equally as bad and getting worse.

Red or Blue Its a no win situation I'm afraid (and we don't want the fringe mobs in either, so literally nowhere to turn)

Sorry for the bum note.

Wonderful. How old are they?

Off shore charities that run residential care homes have the pensions and savings of thousands of elderly people, most for the best part ending up offshore, and employing staff from abroad who send their pay back home means more money increasing our imports. When money leaves the country for any reason, it is on the import side. If we want to improve the economy of Britain we have to export more goods and services.

The trouble is that few of them know how difficult it is to live here. They save up in their country, borrow from family and friends, convinced by the traffickers that they will all find jobs and be able to send it back home.

No one tells them the weather is cold, that they will be out on the street if they cannot pay the rent. The traffickers who take their money tell them they get free homes, free healthcare etc. They really believe that when they pay their money over, and cross the channel, they will be welcomed.

It is the worst tragedy that can befall ignorant people. That is why it has to stop. It isn't just that we have too many immigrants and cannot house and feed them, or give them jobs, it is the immigrants themselves. Imagine paying thousands for a ticket from Africa and finding out how cold it is here, and how much energy costs. It is too late when they realise that if they had stayed at home the $5,000 they paid for their ticket could have set up a business at home.

Conditions can be awful, but that doesn't mean the staff have to be really nasty. When my late husband was in hospital I stayed overnight by his bed at times. I have a manual wheelchair with a 'tilt-in-space' action as a bed. In the bed opposite was an elderly man. His wife said it was the first time he had ever been admitted to hospital and they didn't yet know what was wrong with him.

At 6am the staff came in to start waking up. I heard them shouting at the man opposite. He didn't want to wake up, but they insisted - loudly. They kept shouting at him and said ''We need to change your bed. You wet it, not us, but we have to change it and you have to wake up.'' A bit more than that, unfortunately. I called out ''we don't all want to hear that''. I shouldn't have really, because it would be worse for my late husband. In all my life I had never heard of a patient being shouted at like that. They didn't know I had stayed overnight behind the curtain.

It was the normal thing. I went up and down in the lifts with other wives and husbands and found the same.

In that same ward, I made another remark to the sister and she hit me with the file she was holding. A doctor passing by called us both into the office and made her apologise to me. When I reported the matter later, they both denied it.

Have you ever wondered how it is that the police and local authorities clear traveller sites, yet cannot send illegal immigrants back where they came from.

Sounds like where I live. In the U.K. ….except for the weather.

@Trixiefirecracker Sounds like where I live. In the U.K. ….except for the weather.

Which means that it's nothing like where you live - unless you think that sloshing about in wellies and mud in the dark for 8 months of the year is enjoying the outdoors, and you are one of those cyclists that wear funny clothes, arrive at work looking like a wet dog, and gopro themselves having high pitched debates with motorists about the highway code.

Jokes aside, I'm glad that you have a comprehensive public transport network where you live, as well as cycling infrastructure. Our goal should be to replicate those circumstances across the country to allow others to have as satisfying a life as yours.

But I don’t really mind the weather so it’s fine. Love the U.K. have spent many years abroad and it’s definitely not great in other parts of Europe too.

I have two children - grown ups - who live in the U.S. I wouldn't live there for all the tea in China, People are friendly but by and large utterly ignorant about any other country. The greatest cause of death among childen is shooting. Really. There is no free health service. The people at immigration are arrogant, unwelcoming and even rude. Racism is everywhere. One of the two potential next presidents is a convicted crook who never pays his debts. But half the inhabitants think he's wonderful. England is pretty good by comparison.

As I stated before, we all love the UK on this thread. It would be wonderful if you championed and supported efforts to make it better for all. Isn't that what patriots do?

Stop spreading this lie. Most either work in low paid jobs and pay little or no tax as they are under the threshold while others work in the back economy as we are too dumb to insist on ID cards for work (unlike france). Thats the reasons they pass through safe countries first, because we are the biggest gravy train on earth.

those here then use public services like the nhs, schools etc all at the taxpayers expense but if we comment about it we are racist. The Blair Government swung the doors open for anyone to come in and we had mass immigration firstly from Eastern Europe which employers loved as they could use them as slave labour to drive down wages against locals.

all of these people either send most money earned home or earn so little they don’t boost the economy here anyway.

Haven't RTFT.

Where are people living that they can be so negative about the UK?

I live in London and I bloody love it.

That being said, I am emigrating next month, but this is largely for financial reasons / wanting a new adventure.

If wages weren't stagnant (and the weather less grey!), the UK would be the perfect place to live for me.

We can't do anything short-term about the weather, but the other things were within our control. Enough of you chose to vote for the economic harm of Brexit, enough voted Tory in 2019 or did not vote enabling Mr Johnson to continue in number 10, etc.

People keep thinking right wing. The amount of idiots in this country is unreal.
They blame everything on immigration when the real culprits are in parliament. The last 14 years of tories have devastated this country. Just looking at the right wing bias on the BBC and the media tells you democracy is dead.

Did you get that from a Reform manifesto?

Our district hospital serves two counties, it was built in 1981, over 40 years ago, its pretty much the same as it was was then, same with my local GP surgery, same number of doctors, built 45 years ago.... the Comp i went to 45 years ago was built in the 60s, apart from a new reception area, is exactly the same, even the portacabins are still in use, still single glazed windows.......that lack of investment is down to Labour and Tory Governments... no one else, we had NS oil money, which we pissed up the wall.

Whilst staff might well be migrants, the patients are mainly the elderly.... under your ideal world, who would look after my neighbour if it wasn't the young Indian carers who come in 4 times a day?

EU migrants did the work we didn't want to do and many moved back, replaced by Africans Indians and Asians who will not move back and will become a drain on the NHS as they age, leading to more and more migration.... but whose fault is that?

Blaming foreigners seems to be a sop for our own failings.

Noone is arguing against all migration but it has to be controlled, a system like Australia’s, where the skills we need are allowed in. How do single, unskilled, unable to speak English eritrean men fit into that? They don’t.

as usual, lefties have to quote reform when confronted with the facts. The next time you can’t get a GPs appointment for 3 weeks or your A&E wait is 12 hours you have only your lefty views to blame.

maybe if these low paid workers weren’t allowed to “do all the work” and this country forced the deadbeats who sit on a lifetime of benefits and can genuinely work but choose not to were made to do those jobs we could also decrease the welfare bill but no, lets stick to starmers plan of overtaxing all high earners so that they leave the economy.