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Cows killed another poor dog walker

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Pippetypoppity · 14/10/2024 17:56

I’ve just seen on the BBC news that a lady has been killed in a field by cows. She was walking her chihuahua. This is absolutely tragic. She possibly ran with dog and was chased. That would be my guess as the same happened to me on our farm when I was very young. Your instinct is to save your dog and run. I remember I had a sheep dog puppy in my arms and I’d gone into the field to play. I was about 6 I think. The cows noticed the puppy from quite a distance away and the whole herd started moving in. Luckily I was close enough to the gate to get out, but it was terrifying. I remember my father on the yard yelling ‘Drop the puppy’ at the top of his lungs. I didn’t but I’d have been a gonner if I was another 50 yards in. I just want to tell everyone what my father said to me that day. It’s stuck in my mind ever since and it’s important anyone who dog walks in the country knows it too

  1. If you see cows with calves leave the field by the nearest exit immediately. Cows often charge to protect their young
  2. If you see cows without calves and they start moving quickly towards you they are being inquisitive. If you have a dog with you the cows will want to know if it is a threat. They see dogs instinctively as predators. If you cannot get to a gate and they are approaching- startle them by shouting jumping, waving your arms and making yourself appear as loud, big and threatening as possible. This will frighten them and make them stop or bypass you.
  3. If they persevere it will be because they want to force your dog out of the field. Let the dog go! This is critical. Your dog can run faster than cows and much much faster than you. The cows will then focus on the dog and you can get away.
  4. Never ever pick up the dog if cows are refusing to back off. This is the hardest thing in the world to do as all your instincts will compel you to try and protect it. It stands a better chance running and dodging them however than it does in your arms. You will then avoid becoming a target yourself and being trampled.
  5. When cows move quickly in a large group the ones at the front get pushed by the ones at the back even if they themselves try to slow down. They will not be trying to mow you down but the sheer force from behind might mean they do. For this reason if cows approach in a group and your initial efforts to threaten and scare them failed, make that momentum go in a different direction ie after your dog.
I am so so dreadfully sorry to hear that this has happened again. The lady in question was inevitably a devoted extremely responsible and loving pet owner. She must have been to have been giving her chihuahua a country walk. I expect for this very reason she picked her dog up when she saw the cows getting near. Poor poor lady.
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MidCenturySuffolk · 14/10/2024 20:17

Rosscameasdoody · 14/10/2024 18:54

And I wish the public would respect farmers’ land. If they all left fields empty because of footpaths it would be even more expensive for you to pick up your Saturday night steak at Sainsburys.

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This.
Rural public footpaths exist as a common law legacy of rural people historically using the routes across private land to get from A to B on foot. Fields are not public spaces. We have the right to use a public footpath over private land at our own risk. It’s up to us to assess the risk - it’s not for the landowner to protect us from all risks…

Cows and dogs are not a good mix. Great advise from early poster on how to stay safe.

Feelingathomenow · 14/10/2024 20:17

GreekDogRescue · 14/10/2024 20:10

I was thinking this too.
As cows will have many calves stripped
from them in the course of their lifetime this could make them more wary of humans.
Seeing footage of calves being taken from their mothers is truly heartbreaking

Exactly- if we keep treating animals like this it’s no wonder if they see us as a threat, it’s because we are.

crummyusername · 14/10/2024 20:19

I’ve walked well-used, signposted public footpaths and been in fields of cows with absolutely no way around. I’ve been scared a couple of times. I try to stay near the edge so I have an escape route. A PP mentioned a rape alarm, does that work? (Thinking it might be like bears in the US where people use some kind of loud noise)?

see here for so many incidents on public footpaths, by no means all or even the majority with dogs killercows.co.uk/

Katkins17 · 14/10/2024 20:20

I love cows but they're frigging dangerous.
They're the size of a family car... so why would anyone walk through their field.

I was chased by a herd years and years ago with my young son. Like many, I thought they were calm docile creatures... that was the day I learnt !!!!

notanothernamechange24 · 14/10/2024 20:20

@crackofdoom if you use electric fencing along a public footpath you can guarantee some idiot will get shocked by the fence. Because said idiot will try to fuss the cows over the fence that you put up to protect them from said cows. You cannot win whatever way you do it 🤷🏻‍♀️

WhitegreeNcandle · 14/10/2024 20:21

Please don’t turn this thread into slating farmers. Even the industrial ones are tying to do their best to feed people with their business even if you might disagree with it. Often led by market conditions.

@Pippetypoppity what a thoughtful and considered post. I feel terribly for the poor lady who lost her life. Excellent advice from you that many people could do with reading. We have cows in fields with footpaths and the things we see make your hair curl. People climb over electric fences to take better pictures for example.

If all you take away from the thread is one sentence let it be this:

Let the dog go. It will survive.

Feelingathomenow · 14/10/2024 20:22

MidCenturySuffolk · 14/10/2024 20:17

This.
Rural public footpaths exist as a common law legacy of rural people historically using the routes across private land to get from A to B on foot. Fields are not public spaces. We have the right to use a public footpath over private land at our own risk. It’s up to us to assess the risk - it’s not for the landowner to protect us from all risks…

Cows and dogs are not a good mix. Great advise from early poster on how to stay safe.

Actually the Farmer must take sensible precautions.it is illegal to keep certain livestock in fields with public footpaths.

Livestock and public rights of way – what do I need to know?

Livestock remain one of the top causes of fatal and serious injury in agriculture. Those affected include farmers, workers and members of the public. Read on to hear from NFU experts on what you need to consider.

https://www.nfuonline.com/updates-and-information/livestock-and-public-rights-of-way-what-do-i-need-to-know/

oakleaffy · 14/10/2024 20:23

Farmers treat Bulls with respect- Even a bull who knows you can squish you like a grape should he so wish.

This Bull was “Gentle” as Bulls go- but only for experienced hands.
He usually had his ladies with him.

Cows killed another poor dog walker
Gwenhwyfar · 14/10/2024 20:23

notanothernamechange24 · 14/10/2024 20:20

@crackofdoom if you use electric fencing along a public footpath you can guarantee some idiot will get shocked by the fence. Because said idiot will try to fuss the cows over the fence that you put up to protect them from said cows. You cannot win whatever way you do it 🤷🏻‍♀️

I've seen people touch an electric fence a couple of times and nothing too awful happened. It's a small shock and you're not generally electrocuted!

CrumbleintheJungle · 14/10/2024 20:24

Bestyearever2024 · 14/10/2024 18:50

A Farmer was almost killed by one of his cows in a farm close ish to me

He was trying to help the baby cow and the Mummy cow got cross

Awful 😖

Wow that's a rarity! It's usually the other way round: farmers killing their cows and calves!

Twoshoesnewshoes · 14/10/2024 20:24

Thanks @Pippetypoppity for the info.
we have lots of footpaths through fields of cows here, I avoid them as I have been chased a few times, my kids too.
its simple to put a line of stock fencing along the edge of a large field, many farmers here do it, to allow a safe path.
i hope the awareness of the danger makes this law.

PondWarrior · 14/10/2024 20:25

crackofdoom · 14/10/2024 20:09

I dunno, maybe some more intelligent people who are better suited to the profession will take up farming instead? 🤷‍♀️

Right, because it’s such a well paid and respected job. People should he queuing up 🙄

notanothernamechange24 · 14/10/2024 20:25

@Gwenhwyfar doesn't stop them whining about the shocks though.

I'm well aware of the shocks electric fencing causes having been using fencing for the past 20 years 🙄

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/10/2024 20:25

WhitegreeNcandle · 14/10/2024 20:21

Please don’t turn this thread into slating farmers. Even the industrial ones are tying to do their best to feed people with their business even if you might disagree with it. Often led by market conditions.

@Pippetypoppity what a thoughtful and considered post. I feel terribly for the poor lady who lost her life. Excellent advice from you that many people could do with reading. We have cows in fields with footpaths and the things we see make your hair curl. People climb over electric fences to take better pictures for example.

If all you take away from the thread is one sentence let it be this:

Let the dog go. It will survive.

And vice versa. 'Entitled townies' is shit as well.

notanothernamechange24 · 14/10/2024 20:26

@crackofdoom I challenge you not to use the services of a farmer for the next week! I bet you can't do it!

RecycleMePlease · 14/10/2024 20:26

From when I was a kid, I know that the cows don't even need to be on the attack - a curious cow is still a massive animal, a herd of them doesn't even know when it's crushing towards you.

Sheep too - they may seem like little fluffy things, but they're bloody terrifying if they don't want you there - surprisingly heavy and muscular!

MrsDoubtfire123 · 14/10/2024 20:27

I wish they wouldn’t put livestock in fields with legitimate footpaths in … as on the map !!! 🤬

Ufcears · 14/10/2024 20:28

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WiddlinDiddlin · 14/10/2024 20:28

Not that I think electric fencing is a particularly practical solution in most cases (and it means fence batteries which are prime theif fodder)...

But as long as they're properly signed as the law requires, numpties who get shocked can whine all they like, it's their own fault!

crackofdoom · 14/10/2024 20:28

notanothernamechange24 · 14/10/2024 20:26

@crackofdoom I challenge you not to use the services of a farmer for the next week! I bet you can't do it!

The....services?? 😱
Well, I'm not using 'im over that <way, he looks like a bleddy potato! 😆

Vitriolinsanity · 14/10/2024 20:30

After you've been trampled is never a great time to discuss whether or not the footpath should've cut through a field of cows.

We were dog walking on Sunday. There are cattle in the field we are theoretically allowed to walk as there's a footpath sign.

Hmm, what to do?

I feel very sorry for the walker. Horrid end

JaneJeffer · 14/10/2024 20:31

@Drinkdrinkduuurink thanks that's interesting. I need to read up on this. I wonder what the law was when Ireland was occupied.

Cherrysoup · 14/10/2024 20:31

Bloke walking through the field where my gelding was kept, no footpaths/no ROWs, privately owned. The herd stampeded, never seen anyone run so fast in my life. He threw his dog over the hedge and dived in himself. He must have been terrified but shouldn’t have been in there. It’s tricky when there’s a ROW, but I wouldn’t risk it, I’m terrified of cows coming at me.

Mookytoo · 14/10/2024 20:32

Some farmers move the cows into the those fields with public footpaths on weekends because they hate walkers. yes, you know who you are in Taunton.

TenWeeCaramelJoeys · 14/10/2024 20:32

JaneJeffer · 14/10/2024 20:02

Ireland meanwhile is 300 miles from top to bottom. We are not blessed with much room in these islands, and when society was largely rural these paths were imperative to move around.
I wonder if they have footpaths through land in NI?

There's no right to roam in NI. We are surrounded by fields where I live and aren't allowed to walk through any of them.