Kemi badenoch now against autistic children

[Hunnymonster1]

What is wrong with her? Just read that the children commision is saying average wait like to get diagnosed as autistic is 4 years.
So kemi banging on about how parents are pushing gor diagnosis because they see how much extra money etc autistic children get at school is wrong.
The fact is I woukd think judging by lbc many kids are not getting the support that they need.
So js this about her saying the conservatives need to save tax by not helping people or children with autism and mental health issues.
Bare in mind she said similar about maternity pay last week makes me think she's like Liz truss wants to cut alot of stuff
How the hell can anyone support this?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-autism-tory-leadership-buckland-b2628845.html

This. People with autistic children aren't voting Tory.

You don't get transport for school - or a place at an SN school - on the basis of the parents deciding their kids has ASD.

"This. People with autistic children aren't voting Tory."

That doesn't mean this nonsense shouldn't be challenged.

Er, you don't get a diagnosis of Autism because you're shy or don't like loud noise.

I don't like loud noise. It has nothing to do with my Autism and is a separate diagnosis.

See the bit in bold

Oh I'm sorry, I thought you'd read the pamphlet.

Do you have the magic powers to know which parents are which?

Do you have the magic powers to know which parents are which?

No, but worry not - Saint Kemi does and she will lead this country to Tory Glory.

If you'd read the pamphlet you'd know that they are attacking transport to schools. Transport that isn't given out because someone's mum says her kid is a little bit spectrumy.

It also suggests autistic kids get an economic benefit - better equipment! - on the basis of their diagnosis.

It ignores the fact that school offer adaptations based on need and that generally involves multiple professionals.

It's a manifesto to withdraw support for disabled kids (amongst others).

I don't really agree with your interpretation but that's okay.

I think like every pendulum ever it swings too far from one extreme to the other and takes time to settle in the middle. It's gone from zero support to a generation believing they are exempt from trying to make a life for themselves and expecting society to be one long accommodation. It will settle in the middle. Anything else is unsustainable and plays into the hands of those who want to defund decent education and social care.

It's gone from zero support to a generation believing they are exempt from trying to make a life for themselves and expecting society to be one long accommodation

Good grief. The struggle that kids with SEN and their parents often have with school to get any accommodations. This is pretty offensive.

This pamphlet is nothing more than an attempt to remove what little support disabled kids currently receive.

Nobody is offered transport or equipment without establishing a need. Councils aren't throwing money at disabled children - quite the reverse.

So this encourages cost cutting at the expense of the long term future of the disabled.

Their proposals would limit educational access.

So it's financially illiterate too.

Least it keeps the prisons overflowing.

Tories like her aren't the sharpest and don't realise there are other long terms detrimental effects including to her own well-being.

Children's Commissioner

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy435yk4vj4o

Dame Rachel de Souza's report into the issue said the system has failed to keep up with rising demand, leaving families "in the lurch" and expected to cope by themselves while they wait.

Parents are having to "jump through multiple hoops" to get support, while their children can end up in crisis and robbed of their potential, she said.

The report calls for urgent change to a needs-led, not a diagnosis-led, system of support - something the government insists it is tackling head-on.

"The report calls for urgent change to a needs-led, not a diagnosis-led, system of support - something the government insists it is tackling head-on."

that is how the system is supposed to work - eg the school evidence the educational need and where appropriate are given additional funds or access to key support.
What happened in our experience is that children are effectively competing for that small amount of support.
In our case there was a two year wait for an appropriate school. The primary school did their best to meet need but it did feel like lost years.

Who knew it was all to my child's economic advantage!

Right now the Torys don't even have the MP numbers for an effective opposition.

So does it really matter what any of them think?

It's more important what Labour do and I think Labour are more likely to attempt to fix the education system to try and provide a decent one for all than other parties, but it will rake time, SEN assessments and support are all staff heavy you can't magic trained people out if thin air.

Lemme guess, it was one of the trans obsessives who described her that way.

The reality is that she was generally regarded as one of the least competent ministers of the last government, and let's face it, she had quite a few competitors for that title.

You have to admire Badenoch; it takes a lot to work up a culture war angle on special needs children, who usually receive nominal sympathy if not actual help. Really unpleasant

No, it really couldn't.

I think this is a bit of a myth, to be honest. It's not at all easy to get an autism diagnosis and waiting lists currently are in the region of four years. I suspect you are conflating this perception with the simple fact that we have more awareness of the signs of autism nowadays, and also more awareness of the fact that children with autism tend to mask, resulting in more diagnoses of genuinely autistic people.

I'm struggling to think what extra equipment she thinks autistic children get that's such a privilege for them. I've come up with sensory equipment for those with sensory needs, but unless they are so severely affected as to be in specialist schoosl that tends not to amount to much more than fidget toys, theraputty and wobble cushions. To get anything more complex like specialist hanging equipment, communication aids or access to separate spaces when overwhelmed in class they would have to have quite severe co-morbid conditions. That sort of stuff is not there as a treat, it's just basic stuff to help them cope and access education.

I'm sure children with ASD would happily give up their fidget toys in return for not having sensory problems.

My ds in mainstream had a laptop with specific software, an iPad with aac software, dark den, special chair and various other equipment. Also ta trained in various things and budgets for inde ot and salt. Co morbids: sensory needs and hypermobility. He has severe autism, not diagnosed with learning disability and has been assessed by a very recognised and respected inde Ed psych/ children's Psychologist. Equipment and budgets given without tribunal and detailed I section f (have started appeal subsequently for high school placement which was won without getting to tribunal). He also had standard fidgets etc.

It sounds like he has an EHCP though, which is rare.

I don't think ehcp's are that rare now. The threshold is pretty low for assessment. If a child has a dx there is a strong argument that what was significant enough to get a dx should meet the legal threshold for assessment.

If a child is on a waiting list there is the argument that how can sen be fully assessed when a significant assessment is outstanding therefore needs assessment is required.

Both require parents who are able and have energy to persue. if a child has significant needs parents are usually too tired and there is the possibility they too may have their own needs.

Difficulties arise where the child/ yp is impacted enough to warrant a needs assessment and should be having needs met at school through universal provision. I think it's these kids and the adults they grow into which is fueling the discussion. Able to access with some/ minimal accomodations and not always visible or obviously disabled. Throw in those who advocate that they aren't disabled and autism isn't a disability and you generate bad feeling.

Should read not impacted enough to warrant a needs assessment.