Kemi badenoch now against autistic children

[Hunnymonster1]

What is wrong with her? Just read that the children commision is saying average wait like to get diagnosed as autistic is 4 years.
So kemi banging on about how parents are pushing gor diagnosis because they see how much extra money etc autistic children get at school is wrong.
The fact is I woukd think judging by lbc many kids are not getting the support that they need.
So js this about her saying the conservatives need to save tax by not helping people or children with autism and mental health issues.
Bare in mind she said similar about maternity pay last week makes me think she's like Liz truss wants to cut alot of stuff
How the hell can anyone support this?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-autism-tory-leadership-buckland-b2628845.html

@Perzival
I am just about following the train of thought but I am curious is there really much evidence of people who need minor adaptions asking for the same major adaptions of more impacted people. I've seen people say they have the same right to adaptions they need but not that they need the same ones.

To try an explain what I mean, my son can use a toilet appropriately so we don't ask for funding for incontinence equipment. My son eats so I haven't asked for his TA to have peg training.

Rather than questioning me shouldt you be questioning why so many nd families are having to pay and sacrifice so much?

You also didn't answer my question. Buying disney tickets doesn't make me wrong in views of sen.

Actually even disney admit the changes to their access have been caused by increase need. So yes this is caused by families with disabilities.

More likely caused by greed, Disney can make more money by selling skip the queue passes.

Earlier in the thread there was discussion of the impact of the reduction in funding for education and how because of cut backs children who would have previously had their needs met in mainstream now aren't. Parents rightly exercising their rights to have provision made also special schools being set up as businesses and aimed at children with send who wouldn't have previously been given a special school place.

There was discussion of the 2014 sen reforms and how many of the consequences of the reforms are unintended and not what the reforms were for.

Exactly this.

Challenge for jr?

Judicial Review? The fact that you haven't come across this shows your lack of understanding of issues around sen law.

I feel this way too.

Returning to Badenoch's claim that autistic children are at an economic advantage -

How is equipment that supports a child to access the educational curriculum or transport that gets them an appropriate school creating an advantage that NT pupils don't already have?

Oh do give over. It’s not a competition, I have children with SEN and know what I need to know. Contrary to your accusations many many kids with autism who don’t meet your definition of need access EHCPs and provision without lawyers or punting more deserving kids out of the way.

Exactly, last I heard reasonable adjustments level the playing field, they don’t give an advantage.

I haven't given any definition of need? I've said that all children with needs should have them met.

If you have a child with an ehcp and haven't come across jr as a term I'd suggest you double check section b and f of their plan ensuring all need are detailed with provision to meet them specified and quantified in section f it may save you some time and heartbreak later on.

I do feel your aiming your angst at me when the discussion is about KB and the wider systems. Acknowledging the system needs to change isn't a personal attack it's system that is likely to happen and is being trialled in various LA'S. Saying that people with autism don't have the same needs is also not a personal attack. People are impacted by autism to varying degrees.

Ignoring the issues doesn't help anyone, the systems broken.

And it was the Tory government that Badenoch was a minister in wot broke it. Her using adequate provision for disabled children in a culture war isn't going to fix it. It's going to make it worse.

In addition I've never said more deserving kids are "punted" out of the way, I've said some parents aren't able to fight as they don't have either the money, know how or energy. This isn't fair, a child's ability to access education shouldn't be decided by their parents ability or finance.

Badenoch isn't designing a new SEN system. She wants to dismantle the existing one and offer nothing in return.
Offering up disabled kids as cheap targets.

So it should be left to emplode? I don't really care what side of parliament someone sits if they are willing to start addressing some of the issues around specifically send but disability as a whole.

Some of the issues are politically unpalatable that doesn't mean they don't exist.

How do you know this? It is just an opinion. Leaving things as they are is crazy, at the very least she's starting a conversation most politicians don't want to touch.

She's not addressing the issues!

It's a promise of cost cutting without any analysis of what impact that will have on children.

We're all having to pay and sacrifice so much because the last Tory government were a total disaster for the UK. Austerity, Brexit, Trussterfuck economics. We're all paying for it now. Our children shouldn't have to pay for it though, especially not autistic children.

Who said it should be left to implode?

No one here.

It is imploding. LA'S are declaring bankruptcy and blaming their sen budgets. The government are wiping away debt in return for LA's lowerig their high needs block (send funding; ehcps etc), tribunals are backlogged, schools are falling apart. How else would you describe it? It can't go on like this.

Badenoch's pamphlet is not geared to solving the SEN crisis. There is no analysis, no attempt to measure impact. It's someone tinkering around the fringes for political wins.

Firstly, autism is not a linear spectrum with two ends. Secondly, autism is not medicated. You’re thinking of something else, maybe ADHD, or maybe you just don’t really have a clue about any of this. Perhaps if you read a bit further into the area you’d be able to make a better assessment.

I know the system is broken.
I know who broke the system.
What Kemi Badenoch said does nothing to address the broken system. On the contrary, she seems to be blaming disabled children and their parents instead of taking any responsibility or proposing any solutions.