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Disappearances of women and rivers

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Cm19841 · 10/10/2024 20:29

I am just reading the terrible story about Victoria Taylor and the suggestion she fell into the river Derwent.

There have a been a number of these stories recently. They are all awful. But I can't recall this happening so frequently in the past. Am I wrong? Did this happen and it was less reported? Is it incredibly risky to walk alone by riverbanks, all the more so if you are female? How dangerous is this?

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Arraminta · 21/07/2025 15:43

And have just seen that Gaynor Lord was 55 when she drowned in Norwich.

Women are far more likely to commit suicide between the ages of 45 - 55 than at any other time in their lives. The other crisis window is within a couple of years after giving birth. This is not a coincidence.

Arraminta · 21/07/2025 15:45

And according to The National Water Safety Forum, the person most likely to 'drown' in the UK is a woman aged 50 - 59.

cinnamongirl123 · 21/07/2025 15:48

I can totally relate to the idea of disappearing into a body of water…..😪 RIP all these women

slightlydistrac · 21/07/2025 15:54

The last person to be fished out of our nearby river was male. And it didn't even make the local paper, let alone the national news.

It happens all the time, sadly, and most of them don't get reported. The one you mention was a specific case, where the police presumably thought there might be foul play, and they needed the help of the public.

LaLaLandDreams · 21/07/2025 15:56

People seem to be hell bent on there being a serial killer on social media because ‘no woman would leave their children’. Some do.

DiscoBob · 21/07/2025 16:04

I don't know if it's more common for women to fall in rivers or water and get killed than men?

I actually doubt it because I think men can act more recklessly and are also statistically more likely to be near water in dangerous situation.

Ie, fishing is a more male hobby, fishermen, trawlers, sewage workers are more likely to be male?

Water is dangerous and an accident can happen to anyone near it. In summer it's often young kids drowning when they try and cool off.

powershowerforanhour · 21/07/2025 16:10

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=470394831292109&surface_type=vod&referral_source=vod_deeplink_unit

This freaked me out. The flat bit looks so pretty and peaceful.

0ddsocks · 21/07/2025 17:12

I’ve thought carefully about posting this. I am not in that place now, nowhere near but in my darkest times it was the plan I made. It seemed ‘gentler’ than walking into traffic or jumping off a motorway bridge. And very unlikely to harm a third party (another driver etc…)

just perhaps that’s why they chose it.

whistlesandbells · 22/07/2025 19:06

Hi everyone. Returning here to my own thread. What a terrible loss! Poor children bereft. Poor, poor Rachel Booth. I think this should be looked into far more closely than quickly case closed. Reading replies about women and vulnerability at this age, but whatever this is. So many women is so terrible to be looked over.

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 22/07/2025 19:14

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 10/10/2024 20:52

I’ve thought this too - there have been A LOT of them. Mostly forgotten names now apart from the high profile cases, but there have been lots off stories like this in the press in the past 1 - 2 years. A lot of quite similar looking women too.

A lot??? Really? How many?

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 22/07/2025 19:16

whistlesandbells · 22/07/2025 19:06

Hi everyone. Returning here to my own thread. What a terrible loss! Poor children bereft. Poor, poor Rachel Booth. I think this should be looked into far more closely than quickly case closed. Reading replies about women and vulnerability at this age, but whatever this is. So many women is so terrible to be looked over.

How many women?

the case has been investigated, what do you want ‘looked into’?

Oasisafan · 22/07/2025 19:18

0ddsocks · 21/07/2025 17:12

I’ve thought carefully about posting this. I am not in that place now, nowhere near but in my darkest times it was the plan I made. It seemed ‘gentler’ than walking into traffic or jumping off a motorway bridge. And very unlikely to harm a third party (another driver etc…)

just perhaps that’s why they chose it.

I’m sorry to read this but thankfully you’re in a better place 🫶

whistlesandbells · 22/07/2025 19:20

0ddsocks · 21/07/2025 17:12

I’ve thought carefully about posting this. I am not in that place now, nowhere near but in my darkest times it was the plan I made. It seemed ‘gentler’ than walking into traffic or jumping off a motorway bridge. And very unlikely to harm a third party (another driver etc…)

just perhaps that’s why they chose it.

Thank you for being so open. I am so glad you are in a better place. Everyone matters. X

Themouserandown · 22/07/2025 19:24

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 10/10/2024 20:52

I’ve thought this too - there have been A LOT of them. Mostly forgotten names now apart from the high profile cases, but there have been lots off stories like this in the press in the past 1 - 2 years. A lot of quite similar looking women too.

Agree, I have been thinking this too.

Oasisafan · 22/07/2025 19:25

Livelovebehappy · 10/10/2024 23:27

Why would so many choose drowning to end their life? It must be awful to basically suffocate as your lungs fill with water. There’s easier ways to take your life.

I get what you’re saying and there would be quicker ways, however I suspect a lot of people would drink themselves in to oblivion before walking in, they would likely be almost unconscious before they drowned. 😞

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 22/07/2025 20:04

How many women have disappeared and ended up in rivers?

you say ‘a lot’

coxesorangepippin · 22/07/2025 20:52

As a woman, I would not walk along a river or a canal

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 22/07/2025 20:55

coxesorangepippin · 22/07/2025 20:52

As a woman, I would not walk along a river or a canal

So dramatic!

cyvguhb · 22/07/2025 21:05

coxesorangepippin · 22/07/2025 20:52

As a woman, I would not walk along a river or a canal

Ever? Do you have issues with balance or walking in a straight line that don't affect you when for example walking in the pavement of a busy road or crossing a road?

NotrialNodeal · 22/07/2025 21:17

Thebellofstclements · 11/10/2024 03:51

Drowning (and death by suffocation) is famously one of the nicer ways to die. There is euphoria after the initial panic.

You sound like you could answer this question for me. I have always wondered about suicide by drowning. I don't understand how?! Hear me out! I've heard it said that when someone is suicidal and say, jumps off a bridge, that as they are falling, they have a change a heart, biology kicks in and they suddenly want to live. Obviously people will die as there's nothing they can do once they have jumped but I know a survivor who described it as I did. Luckily she lived to tell the tale. But with drowning....how do force yourself to drown?! I really don't understand?!! And once that instinct kicks in?
Does this make sense. Its probably obvious but not to me!

cyvguhb · 22/07/2025 21:19

Arraminta · 21/07/2025 15:45

And according to The National Water Safety Forum, the person most likely to 'drown' in the UK is a woman aged 50 - 59.

I found this impossible to believe so have looked at the report and it doesnt say that at all

It says that of women who die by accidental drowning the largest number are aged between 50 and 59 but over 80% of those who drown accidentally are men

Which I think most of us would have guessed

NotrialNodeal · 22/07/2025 21:21

I hadn't read the whole thread and just seen the post from oasis fan. That makes sense.

But basically in my mind if you can swim and your not drunk or on drugs, it's impossible to force yourself to drown no?!

cyvguhb · 22/07/2025 21:24

NotrialNodeal · 22/07/2025 21:21

I hadn't read the whole thread and just seen the post from oasis fan. That makes sense.

But basically in my mind if you can swim and your not drunk or on drugs, it's impossible to force yourself to drown no?!

I would have thought the same, it seems like it would be almost impossible to force yourself to stay under water

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 22/07/2025 21:26

The temperature drop won’t help