Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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at A level level, our chemistry teacher would give us pages from the anarchists cookbook, about using household stuff to make things like thermite, explosives and napalm, and get us to try and work out what the chemical reactions involved were.
he did ALSO make thermite in a class, and burned a hole in the playground tarmac with it. bit of a pyromaniac, that one. wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if something like that ever came out about him.

I'm just wondering how someone with that record can get a job in a hospital ?

I do know she didn't actively murder them - we lived in the next village across from Soham at the time and it was big news. But presumably she knew that the concept of murdering children was wrong, and that it was wrong that her partner had murdered them and / or that he was asking for an alibi.

You're right, it really didn't excuse it. It was an obscene miscarriage of justice that she got such a short stint in prison.

When I was at school one of the boys had a real fascination with pushing things up his nose. Crayons, chalk, pencil sharpeners, they all went in there.

Ladies, that little boy grew up to be Donald Trump.

Pedantry, but not all SS members were "soldiers", that's the Waffen part of it. A far larger number of SS officers were bureaucrats, administrators, doctors, surgeons, clerks, etc etc and would never have been anywhere near any sort of combat, or processing prisoners or camp inmates. Most of the torturing outside of camps would have been at the hands of Gestapo. Highly likely it's a case of Dementia warping his memories.

Best friend's DH was found guilty of possessing CSA images. We had spent a lot of time as a group of four, stayed in each other's houses, meals, etc. Still can't comprehend it a dozen years on. Told my friend he was bored after retiring.

Has anyone seen the film Muscle?

It is excellent. In one scene one of the main characters just casually reveals to the protagonist that he had been in prison for rape. Chilling

Dr Mengele was an SS doctor. There were a lot of doctors and scientists involved in horrific experiments/torture.

For a long time my father’s dementia meant he had poor short term memory but all his early memories were intact.

Reading and posting on here has reminded me of two separate incidents when I was a child - and looking back it really makes my blood run cold.

My best friend’s parents had a gardener who was a middle aged, friendly sort of guy but used to regularly ask the pair of us (we would have been about 10 at the time) if he could see our knickers. We were so unaware, we just laughed it off and thought he was a bit daft. With hindsight he should have been reported to the police and dealt with appropriately.

The second time I was out on my bike aged around 12 and was approached by a man possibly in his 20s. He told me he was desperate for a pee and asked me to go with him to some local allotments “to keep an eye out so he could go in private” I instinctively knew it was inappropriate and refused but went home and told my parents. Shockingly, their view was there was no point in calling the police as he’d be well away by the time they responded. This was the late 70s and shows just how attitudes have changed. If my DCs had come home with a report like that, I’d have definitely called the police and quite possibly driven out to look for him myself!

Taking photos at a friend's wedding and met a really lovely couple and their 3 children. Chatted, took photos etc. A couple of years later they went quiet on our friends whose wedding it was. Then through work they discovered he'd been sexually abusing 2 of the children. He seemed like such a lovely guy and poor wife had no idea. I still think about her and her children x

My school chaplain turned out to be a child abuser. I am not aware of him abusing anyone in my school. He visited me in an isolation ward in a children's hospital when I was 8 or 9, and I thought he was lovely. Later on he became hospital chaplain, and abused patients.

Of course, as Mengele operated inside death camps, which were administered by the SS.

The SS was not a military organisation though, which is why it's incorrect to assert that all SS members were "soldiers", and as camp administration was only one of a multitude of things the SS did, it's also incorrect to presume that all SS members would have been personally involved in the torture of individuals, hence why it's a bit of leap to assume that an old man suffering from dementia is recalling factual events, even if it is absolutely true that he was once a member of the SS.

My family members husband was a abusing her teenage daughters. No one would have ever thought it, the youngest daughter said it but my family member did not believe her at first, she was an extremely troubled teen but once the eldest DD said it too they realised. My family member was devastated that it had happened but also that she didn't listen at first. She had a very difficult time prior to meeting this man, he seemed to absolutely adore her and we all loved him also. I was very close to then and I had absolutely no clue he was so vile!

No it isn't! It's possession of indecent images of a child

Yes I don't believe this one either, you'd think murder would have been flagged up on a DBS!

A friend's grandad was an SS officer in the Waffen SS (Finnish volunteer for the Wiking division early in the war, not until the end when the worst things were starting to be known about publicly but he must have at least heard of some of the atrocities going on, if not took part in them) but I never met him. We currently have his medals and letters he wrote during the war (by weird coincidence, those letters were written to another friend's grandad) as my bloke's stepdad who is very interested in all things WWII wants to look at them so we're taking them to him when we next visit.

If this is true, I've seen it alleged that he has pushed other stuff up his nose since.

But as for people I actually met, I met a couple who came round for some drinks, that I later found out had both done time in prison for murder, and the man had murdered another person while in prison. He killed a paedophile though so I find it hard to view that murder as so bad but I think he was in prison for killing someone else before that.

Of course it would be. That doesn't mean it's relevant to the employment role.

If you read the full thread, yes, it has. He is a criminologist. Presumably studied in prison and has been totally open about his past, and a panel made a decision that it was OK to employ him as an academic in a university. It doesn't sit right with me at all that he is now teaching mostly young adults and conducting research with other criminals.

Personally I think being mentally unstable enough to violently murder someone is relevant to any job.

I have a conviction from when I was a teenager. It's one of the more serious offences, because it involved a knife. All I'll say about that is that it, wasn't like I struck out with it... and it was in the context of domestic abuse and violence and postnatal depression... from my understanding I can never for the rest of my life work in a position with vulnerable people- children, hospital or care settings

You need to change who you mix with ?

You're correct