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Kemi Badenoch: Maternity pay is “excessive” and people should exercise “more personal responsibility”

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MidnightPatrol · 29/09/2024 13:15

Tory leadership contender Kemi Badenoch interviewed today has said that, “Maternity pay is “excessive” and people should exercise “more personal responsibility”

When it was put to her that the amount of maternity pay was important for people who could not otherwise afford to have a baby, Ms Badenoch said: “We need to have more personal responsibility. There was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies.”

An interesting position to take as part of her campaign for the Tory leadership position: less maternity pay and support for new parents.

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Lenelovich · 29/09/2024 17:29

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 29/09/2024 17:26

I don't know whether she's a Christian, but I suspect we were on some of the same threads as I said the same thing as you (ie: she's no friend to women, she's just anti-rights generally, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day) and was also accused of being a racist. Maternity pay is a really, really basic component of women's rights. She's no friend to women and nor is her party.

Don't tell some of the regulars on here that though. All of them ex Labour through and through allegedly.

Soontobe60 · 29/09/2024 17:32

MidnightPatrol · 29/09/2024 13:15

Tory leadership contender Kemi Badenoch interviewed today has said that, “Maternity pay is “excessive” and people should exercise “more personal responsibility”

When it was put to her that the amount of maternity pay was important for people who could not otherwise afford to have a baby, Ms Badenoch said: “We need to have more personal responsibility. There was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies.”

An interesting position to take as part of her campaign for the Tory leadership position: less maternity pay and support for new parents.

https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1840413421222633820?s=61&t=gKvvk-rWmOlYFGMZN8QVvQ

x.com

https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1840413421222633820?s=61&t=gKvvk-rWmOlYFGMZN8QVvQ

BanksysSprayCan · 29/09/2024 17:37

A lack of joined up thinking.

Make it harder for people to raise children.

Stop immigration.

There is already a recruitment crisis in social care and various other key industries

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 29/09/2024 17:38

How disappointing. Shame.

Ponderingwindow · 29/09/2024 17:38

a certain brand of conservative seems to be emerging that does not understand economics. Birth rates are falling in a way that concerns government officials and making it financially harder for women to have babies will not help that situation.

RedRobyn2021 · 29/09/2024 17:40

What an awful woman

BiggerBoat1 · 29/09/2024 17:41

Is she trying to make herself unpopular?
She’s just spouting bullshit.
Awful woman.

candlewhickgreen · 29/09/2024 17:41

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 29/09/2024 17:26

I don't know whether she's a Christian, but I suspect we were on some of the same threads as I said the same thing as you (ie: she's no friend to women, she's just anti-rights generally, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day) and was also accused of being a racist. Maternity pay is a really, really basic component of women's rights. She's no friend to women and nor is her party.

It was before the election when she was being worshipped and you couldn't say a word against her.

People couldn't understand how a 'gender critical feminist' who didn't actually achieve anything in her tenure and was a Thatcher loving Tory, could be bad for women.

And yes, I was called racist for expressing my views and to shut me down.

RedRobyn2021 · 29/09/2024 17:41

This thread alone would make me never vote conservative again if that woman becomes party leader

DanielaDressen · 29/09/2024 17:42

Seeing as there is a significantly falling birth rate there either needs to be an incentive to have kids (maternity pay) or we accept increased immigration. Tories seem to want neither.

Planits · 29/09/2024 17:43

Lunchiscold · 29/09/2024 13:45

I’m childfree and retired so I have no idea what maternity pay is but if I had to give an opinion either way I’d say it falls on the side of ‘not enough’, the same as maternity care, labour care, afterbirth care, childcare, early years support, education and the welfare of children.

Agree with this!

EasternStandard · 29/09/2024 17:44

DanielaDressen · 29/09/2024 17:42

Seeing as there is a significantly falling birth rate there either needs to be an incentive to have kids (maternity pay) or we accept increased immigration. Tories seem to want neither.

Or there is tech, in 18 years when dc born today are entering the workplace it’ll probably look very different

DanielaDressen · 29/09/2024 17:44

EasternStandard · 29/09/2024 17:44

Or there is tech, in 18 years when dc born today are entering the workplace it’ll probably look very different

True.

Leafstamp · 29/09/2024 17:46

Has someone posted her clarification from X:

”Of course maternity pay isn’t excessive…no mother of 3 kids thinks that.

But we must talk about the burden of excessive business regulation otherwise we might as well be the Labour Party.

My campaign is different from others because tell hard truths. It is how we will renew our party, our thinking and our politics.”

I hope she becomes the next Tory leader as she at least knows what a woman is and will protect children from genderwoo.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 29/09/2024 17:49

@Soontobe60 yes I saw her tweet trying to walk it back. But I don't see how "But statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working. We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive." can be saying anything other than that gov paying maternity pay is excessive. How could she possibly have meant that regulation is excessive by that comment?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2024 17:49

SensibleSigma · 29/09/2024 13:41

Ooh, that’s bad. Generally I find her sensible but maternity pay is crucial. It’s barely manageable with it, for many people.

This.

SerendipityJane · 29/09/2024 17:51

Leafstamp · 29/09/2024 17:46

Has someone posted her clarification from X:

”Of course maternity pay isn’t excessive…no mother of 3 kids thinks that.

But we must talk about the burden of excessive business regulation otherwise we might as well be the Labour Party.

My campaign is different from others because tell hard truths. It is how we will renew our party, our thinking and our politics.”

I hope she becomes the next Tory leader as she at least knows what a woman is and will protect children from genderwoo.

I too hope she becomes the next Tory leader, as it is a guarantee we won't see her in 2029.

cakeorwine · 29/09/2024 17:53

Leafstamp · 29/09/2024 17:46

Has someone posted her clarification from X:

”Of course maternity pay isn’t excessive…no mother of 3 kids thinks that.

But we must talk about the burden of excessive business regulation otherwise we might as well be the Labour Party.

My campaign is different from others because tell hard truths. It is how we will renew our party, our thinking and our politics.”

I hope she becomes the next Tory leader as she at least knows what a woman is and will protect children from genderwoo.

Pesky regulations protecting worker's rights, supporting workers.

First she came for maternity pay....

Leafstamp · 29/09/2024 17:53

SerendipityJane · 29/09/2024 17:51

I too hope she becomes the next Tory leader, as it is a guarantee we won't see her in 2029.

But she will at least hold Labour to account on women’s rights and child safeguarding in terms of them being utterly trashed by gender identity ideology.

EasternStandard · 29/09/2024 17:53

I don’t think she’s in the lead but I’m glad there’s a woman amongst men going for it

Simonjt · 29/09/2024 17:56

Anyone who says “i say it like is” “I tell hard truths” is usually a prick with very little emotional intelligence or self awareness.

Perfect28 · 29/09/2024 17:58

She has horrendous opinions. Nobody should be shocked by that, she's hardly hidden them.

EmberAsh · 29/09/2024 18:00

She's testing the water.
First its maternity leave and you can only afford a child if you pay for the career gap.
Then it's scrapping the NHS. You only get healthcare if you pay private.
She's toxic.

Hatfullofwillow · 29/09/2024 18:00

I thought she was all in favour of the transfer of public wealth (and assets) into the hands of other other people. That's been the only consistent policy of every Tory government since Thatcher.

Bgfe · 29/09/2024 18:03

Who are the people who can’t afford to have children? Not the unemployed people!
The birth rate is dropping. Young people already have it hard trying to cope with housing costs and work. Bizarre area to be focussing on.