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Zoe Ball....sorry for her loss but the general public don't receive 950K per year and get tiled to take an indefinite length of bereavement leave

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mids2019 · 21/09/2024 05:35

I have had a period of bereavement leave (2 weeks) after the death of my father. Given the nature of deadlines at work I had to send emails during that period.

Am I right to question Zoe Ball paid by the licence fee payers being told to take 'as much time as you want' on a vast salary?.Does this show a good between the celeb existence and that of us mere worker drones?

OP posts:
JohnCravensNewsround · 21/09/2024 12:55

Nothing offered where I work currently and a max of 2 weeks ( with first 2 days unpaid) in a rolling year. It is terrible. I think hold your outrage.

OneBadKitty · 21/09/2024 12:56

The daily mail headlines are horrible. They are talking about the 'mystery' of her absence, even though we know she has lost her mother, and she is returning on Monday so only been off about 5 weeks.

OP- do you think earning a high salary means you should be exempt form grief or sickness? And how do we know she isn't taking unpaid leave?

Choosenandenough · 21/09/2024 12:57

Lovesacake · 21/09/2024 06:11

Wow you got two weeks? My companies policy is three days! So that’s all I took. Anything extra would’ve had to be sick pay.

that is literally a race to the bottom here. there shouldn't be a wow about what OP got, there should be a governmental and societal outrage about what you got and by saying wow oooh you're so lucky you're playing into it on the level of 'my ex pays 20 pounds a week in child support - wow count yourself lucky, I get a pound!' we should all be uniting for what is actually right instead of trying to outdo each other on how much more shitty it is for us.

timeforanewmoniker · 21/09/2024 12:57

mids2019 · 21/09/2024 06:41

OK maybe I should be be more empathetic towards someone who has lost someone but in reality I think you can show empathy but still highlight that a lot of employees are treated differently.

I think there are a lot of employees managed out for taking too much sick leave and it certainly goes on a reference. That is the reality for the vast majority of people in this country.

You are choosing to sign a contract with the agreement of the terms of that contract. If you don't like the terms, don't sign it and look for a different role. Or negotiate something better.

I could sit here and complain I don't get the pension of someone who works in the NHS, I don't. Because I would have chosen that line of work if that was my priority.

I'm shocked that someone in the NHS has these views, I hope you aren't in a role that requires any kind of basic human compassion for other people.

I'm an employer and I've never had any other employer ask me about sick leave of an employee. And I wouldn't tell them if they did because that's confidential information.

Choosenandenough · 21/09/2024 12:59

timeforanewmoniker · 21/09/2024 12:57

You are choosing to sign a contract with the agreement of the terms of that contract. If you don't like the terms, don't sign it and look for a different role. Or negotiate something better.

I could sit here and complain I don't get the pension of someone who works in the NHS, I don't. Because I would have chosen that line of work if that was my priority.

I'm shocked that someone in the NHS has these views, I hope you aren't in a role that requires any kind of basic human compassion for other people.

I'm an employer and I've never had any other employer ask me about sick leave of an employee. And I wouldn't tell them if they did because that's confidential information.

Edited

do you realise that many people don't get to chose what they sign? they don't always have options. they take the job they can get. it's not a case of rejecting a contract or choosing not to work in a certain sector. Many people are just trying to survive.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/09/2024 13:01

SapphireOpal · 21/09/2024 06:09

It sounds like she's currently off for mental health reasons rather than on "bereavement leave" per se.

I believe in the NHS you get paid sickness absence so I don't really see what the inconsistency is?

if they do, it's changed in the last 15 years where I saw a colleague being bollocked by our manager about why she was so special that she thought she needed to take a day off for her mother when people died every day.

timeforanewmoniker · 21/09/2024 13:01

Choosenandenough · 21/09/2024 12:59

do you realise that many people don't get to chose what they sign? they don't always have options. they take the job they can get. it's not a case of rejecting a contract or choosing not to work in a certain sector. Many people are just trying to survive.

They haven't asked for anything different. They would have options if they used them.

I can count on one finger the number of employees who have asked us for changes to their employment contract. Yet there are plenty of changes we'd negotiate if asked.

Reallybadidea · 21/09/2024 13:02

Arguably it's a good thing for the BBC to be leading the way in this by showing understanding and compassion towards their employee. It might make leaders in other organisations more likely to do the same.

wheretheheckissummer · 21/09/2024 13:02

Well you got more than I did! I got 3 days and asked to come back because they were short staffed!

ElsaMars · 21/09/2024 13:03

I'm finding the attacking of Zoe Ball at the moment a bit bizarre.
The DM is running half story after half story, what are they insinuating?
I think she, and anyone else, should take the time they need to grieve. End of.

Windmillsofyourminds · 21/09/2024 13:03

I am surprised that the OP gets 2 weeks bereavement leave in the NHS. Where I worked in the NHS it ws 3 days maximum for closest family with one day for someone such as MIL. When my DH died I was signed off with stress and depression.

SquigglyNonsense · 21/09/2024 13:03

How much did they pay Huw Edwards when he was off air and before he was sacked? That's far more shocking then Zoe Ball having some time off for health reasons.

FloydGerhardt · 21/09/2024 13:03

NoDishiForRishi · 21/09/2024 06:20

My husband had to go back to work the day after we lost our daughter because there was no one else to do his job. He didn't get offered any bereavement leave at all.

I think Zoe should take all the time she needs to deal with the loss of her mother. Better that she feels and processes it rather than being forced back to work too soon and ends up like my DH who's bottled it all up and hasn't processed his grief at all.

What would they have done if you were in another country or incapacitated? I’m so sorry that you lost your daughter, it’s heartbreakingly unimaginable but your husband didn’t have to go to work.

Chipsintheair · 21/09/2024 13:03

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 21/09/2024 05:46

You're right. Everyone should be treated compassionately after bereavement instead of being expected to rush back to work.

Yes, it should be given to everyone who needs it, so although it irks that someone so wealthy is given it when poor people are forced to work —and often end up with long term effects such as somatic trauma responses, stress-related illnesses or addiction (or, frequently, can't work and the knock-on effect means they lose their job and sometimes their home) — I think it's really good that this has been given so publicly, as it's hopefully a sign of shifting attitudes and can help lead the way by example.

ItTook9Years · 21/09/2024 13:04

mids2019 · 21/09/2024 05:59

I am sorry but working in the NHS there is a two week bereavement leave policy and I know managers do have to enforce this as it becomes an inconsistent policy over the whole work force Yes there should be better bereavement leave but it does stick a little in people's throats when those that are I. High profile large salary jobs get a sympathy greater than the general public.

If course bereavement is horrible so maybe the problem is that double standards and the BBC.

Ex-NHS HR. The bereavement (special) leave is routinely followed by weeks/months of sick leave, even in non-traumatic bereavement cases.

SapphireOpal · 21/09/2024 13:04

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/09/2024 13:01

if they do, it's changed in the last 15 years where I saw a colleague being bollocked by our manager about why she was so special that she thought she needed to take a day off for her mother when people died every day.

Your crap manager 15 years ago has nothing to do with what I've written though does it. Do you get paid sick leave in the NHS or not?

barbiegirl881 · 21/09/2024 13:05

Other people shouldn’t get less because you needed more. We should focus on levelling up for everyone, not taking from others. This attitude is a big problem in our country and why we move backwards in lots of areas.

Choosenandenough · 21/09/2024 13:05

timeforanewmoniker · 21/09/2024 13:01

They haven't asked for anything different. They would have options if they used them.

I can count on one finger the number of employees who have asked us for changes to their employment contract. Yet there are plenty of changes we'd negotiate if asked.

Maybe you should do the right then and let them know they have options instead of knowing they are too fearful to ask for them. Also … it’s not just about what is going on with you… my comment was speaking on what’s going on across the board.

fatimashortbread · 21/09/2024 13:06

Zoe Ball may be taking unpaid leave given the length of time.

Apolloneuro · 21/09/2024 13:07

Has it even been confirmed that this is the only reason she’s off? For all we know she’s just been diagnosed with breast cancer or something.

OonaStubbs · 21/09/2024 13:07

The BBC is a joke, what does Zoe Ball do that is worth £950,000 a year?

I will be glad when it closes down.

Lifeomars · 21/09/2024 13:07

I wasn't even allowed a day off to go to my BIL's funeral, I had run out of annual leave and asked for a day's compassionate leave as my nieces were only 13 and 17 when their dad died in tragic circumstances but this is not about going lower.

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 21/09/2024 13:08

What on earth has happened to people and compassion? Where on earth has it gone? Surely if a person is bereaved they should take off as long as they need?

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 21/09/2024 13:09

Well you hate my workplace I was off in full pay from March- sept throughout my husbands terminal illness and then the subsequent practicalities of having kids once he had passed. Employer never even asked me when I was returning or discussed my pay. They also made a significant donation to a related to charity.

Beth216 · 21/09/2024 13:10

Nearly £1m a year is an obscene amount of money to be paid. It's embarrassing that the BBC pulled free licenses for pensioners when they're paying people a million a year - £4000 for one show. Time off for a bereavement is one thing - but paying that is a joke.