Kids asked to stand for headteacher

[Worcswarrior]

So dd has just started high school. There is an expectation that the students stand up when the headteacher enters the assembly hall. Is this not a bit draconian in 2024?

What has the year got to do with it 🙄

No wonder kids are so disrespectful when parents can't fathom basic respect and manors.

You should stand when a member of authority enters the room, and a true gentle person would do the same when they leave..

It's bonkers. And no, as adults we do NOT do this!

I don't mind much about the standing up at the start of assembly - it does signal the start of something - but the standing up when a teacher comes into the room?? aargh...

The tendency to tin pot dictatordom, encouraged by some academies, has been a disaster for the profession and children. No evidence base, little accountability and egos out of control.

No I think that’s different. Getting up hug someone or that is totally different to standing to attention when someone comes into a room.

Standing up when meeting new people is not the same as standing up for people you are with everyday. Out of context it is more fetish than polish.

No this is normal 🤷‍♀️ not enough kids are taught to show respect to others anymore IMO.

This is how I feel, people are confusing two different things here

We did this throughout my schooldays in the 70s and 80s.

I think teaching young people some respect is sadly lacking in 2024.

My kids didn't though (20s).

The Headmaster would wish everyone a good morning and 800 odd voices in unison said, "the same to you sir!" - also Christmas and Easter.

We had to stand all the way through assembly. 30 minutes 3 times a week.
Chairs? Luxury.

Of course it's a normal mark of respect. We had to stand up for every teacher who came into the room when I was at school, and many years later it was the same in all three schools my daughter attended.

I had to do this at secondary school in the mid/late 90s. We never saw our head teacher apart from a weekly assembly, he had zero presence around the school and so yes it felt very draconian.

It’s not a rule any school I’ve worked in has ever had (last 15 years or so) and I personally do think it’s a little old fashioned, but equally I don’t see a problem with it and wouldn’t be annoyed if my kids school had this rule. Like others have said it demonstrates respect.

How exactly does "standing up" show respect?

Oh Jane is sitting down. She doesn't respect me.
Oh she's standing up. Now she respects me!

"Supposed to teach kids respect"

People acting as if the vast majority of schoolchildren who don't do this in the UK, don't have respect lol.

Completely agree with chasqui, especially on the no evidence base bit.

The tendency to tin pot dictatordom, encouraged by some academies, has been a disaster for the profession and children. No evidence base, little accountability and egos out of control.

No evidence base at all it's just more like i'm am the lord of the vibes said he...

It's a sign of respect and frankly many kids would do well to learn respect.

No. Its not draconian to expect respect.

Also acting like those who did do this have manners. I’ve met some people from the older generation who were 100% doing this and more have no manners, especially towards the younger generation and act like everyone should hold open doors for them and they don’t even need to acknowledge it, let alone say thank you.

This doesn’t equate to manners.

Frankly many posters on mumsnet could learn respect too.

There isn't a lot of respect on this website

Why does a high court judge command respect and teachers don’t

Should have tagged @Chasqui

The thing is let's say this was introduced across the UK, it'd never be enough for some people especially the nostalgia types of the "kids in ye olde days used to show a bit of respect" domain.

There'd always be some petty and pettier rule that they'd insist upon, even if you brought back corporal punishment or borstal it'd would never be enough.

Ha! Must admit I scratched my head over that one for a second, but then came up with the answer that a high court judge could hold you in contempt and slap a custodial sentence on you.

Whereas a teacher could only give a detention and make you write 'I must not be rude in Ms. Jenkinson's Class' 150 times 😀

Generally because a teacher can't hold you in contempt of class and send you to prison or increase your custodial sentence.

But there's also many cases of Judges from the High Court or otherwise being disrespected, which is unsurprising considering the audience (defendant/defendant family) they tend to command.

We had to stand when I was at school - and sit on the floor otherwise.

I can’t see the problem.🤷‍♀️