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Friend's behaviour has annoyed me. I want to tell him it has because I want to be congruent, but I don't know how, what would you do?

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Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 15:26

Background is I live a single lifestyle, no children and am an only child. I didn't want this life, I wanted a marriage etc but it just hasn't worked out. This may bear some relevance to the importance of friendships and this situation.

I've been friends with a man for about 8 years now. It started when I first moved to a new village, and took to taking my dog and a book and sitting in a local pub beer garden in the summer. I was just looking to make some connections and he's someone who came and spoke to me. Since then we've met up a couple of times a week for a drink or dinner/walks. He's married, I'm gay, totally platonic. We share a hobby too so chat about that a lot.

He comes to my house for a few beers almost every weekend. This is not reciprocal because he lives with his wife and children, keeps us separate.

Of the hobby, I was lucky enough to acquire some supplies for it free, recently. He asked if he could buy half off me-I said yes. He came around, gave me the money and then he proceeded to try to take more than half, thought I'd not notice. I did and took some of what he'd taken out of his carrier bag and put them back, so it was fair for what he'd paid me. That was number one irritating thing.

The other is, although I am more than happy to provide him with alcoholic drinks when he comes to my house, I feel that was it the other way around, I would buy him a drink now and again. He knows that although I am lucky enough to not be struggling, I have far less income than him, and he has a dual income household. He's been getting free beer from me for at least 3 years now, and it isn't as if it is equal because I don't go to his house ever. I just find it a bit cheeky.

And then, we went for a drink recently and decided to go to a different pub. My other friend came with us but he took a taxi as he can't walk far (disability) and me and the friend in question walked. When we got there, other friend had bought us a round. Friend in question ran out of his drink first, and just bought his own. I of course bought other friend a drink back.

The icing on the cake for me was, I was looking at houses in the area on Rightmove, on my phone recently. I pointed at one I liked and said friend commented 'Oh god, I could buy that in cash right now'.

This was a 'grrr' moment for me.

A couple of people in my local have picked up that there's a bit of an atmosphere between me and him now. I also note that none of them really like him. The landlord hates him! I don't suppose that is much relevant, I have always really liked him. We've been there for one another, I cried on him not so long ago about the state of my life, you know, he's nice to me! We text though the week sharing daft jokes/rants about work, we get on well- I have just found myself feeling very rubbed up the wrong way by this recent series of events and realisations.

Others have picked up on the fact that I am quite annoyed with him and they might say something. They don't know in full detail but I have told them bits and bats when pressed. Again not really relevant but I feel like I should say something to him about how he's annoyed me. Or I could just gradually phase out our meetups and get togethers, maybe tell him I am not going out for a while/trying to save money or whatever and I can do the hobby by myself, maybe we'll drift.

What do you think? Am I overreacting or being stroppy?

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CeffylCoch · 10/09/2024 16:39

Tell him to buy the beers! why have you let this go on for so long?

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 10/09/2024 16:42

tell him he is taking the piss.

if that makes him not want to be your friend any more then he was never your friend and it's best not to have one than have one you need to bribe with beer to spend time with you.

DonttouchthatLarry · 10/09/2024 16:42

When he said he could buy a house outright with cash you should have said 'I didn't think you had enough money to buy the beers' - missed opportunity.

Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 16:44

CeffylCoch · 10/09/2024 16:39

Tell him to buy the beers! why have you let this go on for so long?

Do you mean the ones for when he comes over, or while we're out?

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alexdgr8 · 10/09/2024 16:45

maybe your woman friend thinks you wouldn't have time for her, if she moved in, given you spend so much time with this worthless sounding man.
do you not ever feel guilty, being so much with a married man, and talking about his wife, and never having met her.
how would you feel if you had a wife and she started doing that.

Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 16:45

DonttouchthatLarry · 10/09/2024 16:42

When he said he could buy a house outright with cash you should have said 'I didn't think you had enough money to buy the beers' - missed opportunity.

I should have! I was quite taken aback to be honest. I mean, I knew he had money so not by that, but his bragging about it. I likely wouldn't have been however if it wasn't the accumulation of things.

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Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 16:47

alexdgr8 · 10/09/2024 16:45

maybe your woman friend thinks you wouldn't have time for her, if she moved in, given you spend so much time with this worthless sounding man.
do you not ever feel guilty, being so much with a married man, and talking about his wife, and never having met her.
how would you feel if you had a wife and she started doing that.

My girlfriend would never think that. It's an entirely different reason she won't move house to me. When she's here I either don't see him or we go to meet him as a couple and she's always loved spending time with him.

I've not felt guilty about it. It's in the pub, we'd both be there anyway, just not talking to one another or arranging to meet, and the hobby involves others and is just a coincidence. I have confided in friends about my partner/my situation too.

I'd not mind any partner of mine having other friends at all.

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Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 16:48

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 10/09/2024 16:42

tell him he is taking the piss.

if that makes him not want to be your friend any more then he was never your friend and it's best not to have one than have one you need to bribe with beer to spend time with you.

I am definitely going to tell him that I am cutting back on spending and can he bring some beers with him when he comes over.

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MzHz · 10/09/2024 16:51

Clearly everyone clocked what a tightwad CF he was, and trying to take a big chunk of your stuff was totally unacceptable

did he spot youd redressed the balance?

people who know you probably didn’t want to say anything to you but looks like they’ve had his number for a long time.

open your eyes and ears, tell him to bring the beer with him and tell him it’s his round from now on

forget your money at home.

ultimately he’s leeching off you and I think he’s getting some kind of ego boost at your expense

Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 16:53

MzHz · 10/09/2024 16:51

Clearly everyone clocked what a tightwad CF he was, and trying to take a big chunk of your stuff was totally unacceptable

did he spot youd redressed the balance?

people who know you probably didn’t want to say anything to you but looks like they’ve had his number for a long time.

open your eyes and ears, tell him to bring the beer with him and tell him it’s his round from now on

forget your money at home.

ultimately he’s leeching off you and I think he’s getting some kind of ego boost at your expense

I think he did notice, and pretended not to!

Yes, I think they probably had noticed and didn't want to say anything, or hadn't really noticed much until recently.
We don't usually go in rounds together, we just buy our own, the other friend buying that one was an isolated incident, sorry if I mislead there.

That friend is INCREDIBLY generous (he does have a lot of money) and always buys people drinks. When he mentioned it, he also said something like 'But then he never does'. So he's bought them for him before and it is never reciprocated apparently.

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LissaGa · 10/09/2024 16:54

Do you actually get anything positive out of this peculiar friendship?

Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 17:01

LissaGa · 10/09/2024 16:54

Do you actually get anything positive out of this peculiar friendship?

I have got a lot out of it. It's nice to have someone to meet, we have interesting conversations that I don't get from others, we enjoy one another's company.

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Cattery · 10/09/2024 17:15

I wouldn’t go drinking with anyone who doesn’t stand their round.

LLCoolMay · 10/09/2024 17:16

@Pistachiovillian

Seems a few things to unpick here?

You seem a bit lonely (which is not uncommon and lots of chat on MN about it which I'm glad of).

As a single woman, are you actually in the best possible environment for you socially?

Do you have to be in a small village? I'm sure it's great in some ways but is there genuinely enough emotional and community support for you?

If you're the kind of person who is ok going to pubs solo then I imagine you're independent content in your own company, which is great, but also perhaps you do need a bit "more".

(I'm not white and single. I love country views and am introverted BUT know I get a bit needy and desperate when I don't have enough contact.

So city life it is!

I like that when I wanted to pep my social life up there were about 15 social things available and I can/could fill my calender up with with a mix of people and activities.

Obviously city life has many weirdos and shit behaviour too, but you don't really feel a "scarcity mindset" with people as there's always new faces.

"I don't like that person oh ok I'll just have to go see free world class art that day instead").

I think maybe loneliness why you've let this interaction continue a bit too long? People don't change.

I don't think you can get CF friend to start being decent, he knows what he's doing. If you became broke or ill, would he turn up to help out with a bag or groceries?

He is clearly a "user" personality which you've sensibly picked up on (I'd just drop him or grey rock him asap) but also finding someone available for a regular 1-1 chat every weekend is hard!

It's not sexual it may just be that he's the only one actually THERE for you.

So I'd say you need to find more community, or come up with ways to build up your social life more. Or practice self-care at home and not mind emotionally if you have a quiet weekend solo.

I also have observed that "too much availability" is often a red flag for new friends.

Cool people are there but mainly on an ad-hoc basis (especially as a single female).

If someone is immediately available all the time, often it means the person is odd or a user or doesn't have my best interests at heart.

Dotto · 10/09/2024 17:17

Why haven't you told him to pay his way then?

Lemonadeand · 10/09/2024 17:30

Outrageous to accept a free drink from someone in the form of a round and then just get yourself a drink next time. He’s got away with scrounging behaviour for far too long. If you really care about the friendship though I would give him another chance but make it clear he’s buying and see what happens.

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 10/09/2024 17:50

I'd be interested to see if the home visits drop off if you say "you bring the drinks this time".

He sounds like a reasonable guy in some ways but a classic tight bastard. We have friends who are dodgy with rounds and home drinks but they don't earn as much or have more kids so we are happy to buy rounds at a 2 for 1 ratio or something. He, however, has no problem bragging about the cash he has which suggests there is no honest reason for his tightness.

I'd tell him about the rounds and not bother about him trying to get more than half as you think he noticed. Sometimes more can be said in actions.

Pistachiovillian · 10/09/2024 17:51

Cattery · 10/09/2024 17:15

I wouldn’t go drinking with anyone who doesn’t stand their round.

We don't work in rounds as a 'couple'. The other friend buying a round was a one-off, but I noticed it! Normally me and friend in question just buy our own. If I am drinking alcohol I drink wine, which I drink much slower than he drinks his beer so it wouldn't work.

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StaunchMomma · 10/09/2024 17:53

Good friends call out each other's bullshit.

Stop buying beers. Stop shielding him from buying rounds - when he goes to the bar, say 'I'll have a....'. When he says things like 'I could buy that with cash tomorrow' reply with 'No wonder you've got loads of money - you never buy a round!'

You do need to have a conversation, I think. It doesn't have to be deep, it just has to be honest. He's been pissing you off with his free loading. End of. He can either recognise it, apologise and change or dig his heals in. Either way - it's his problem and you don't have to stick around for it.

If others are noticing, I'd get it done sooner rather than later.

bluegreygreen · 10/09/2024 18:01

I have never been to their house, other than occasionally giving him a life home after pub/hobby and according to him she doesn't go out/do the hobby we do. He has confided in me a lot about the issues in his marriage, I share a lot about my life with him too. I felt/feel close to him

On a different thread, this would be called an emotional affair.

I'm not suggesting that is your intent, OP, but it doesn't sound the sort of situation his wife is likely to be very happy with.

theresnoautomobile · 10/09/2024 18:03

Next time he's due to come round msg him beforehand and say "can you pick up some beers I don't have any in" then continue that each alternate time he comes round but changing the msg to "your turn to being the beers round tonight" type of thing.
When in the pub and it's his turn to buy a round do not get up and go to the bar, just say "oh it's your round isn't it, I'll have a wine please"
If he doesn't comply with any of this then it will inevitably lead to some kind of conversation where you can bring up how you feel.

theresnoautomobile · 10/09/2024 18:05

Meant to add I have a friend who can be slow to get their round in, so I've started saying "are you going to the bar?" Or "is it your round now", they don't like it but they do get the drinks in!

LLCoolMay · 10/09/2024 18:20

I don't actually think wife cares.

Suspect she's probably disinterested and glad he's out of the house and she isn't the one stuck paying for his weekend beer.

They're both enjoying the benefits and security of a dual-income household and saving up nice six figure sums.

They may be on early retirement abroad with houses bought for children, when OP is still working.

With friendships, as much as I love the idea of camaraderie (I'd love to just go down to a pub and have that natural social contact) often the dice are loaded if you're not perfectly aligned or your face doesn't fit for some reason.

Many think in a financial, structural and transactional manner, even if you think the friendship/connection is emotional.

Solo women, newcomer, widow, minority, lonely, divorced...I'd say watch your back more! Lot of exploitative people, even if you're intelligent and confident.

It shouldn't be that way but it is what it is. Anyone you meet as an adult trying to be your new close friend/family replacement may have issues.

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Velvetandgold · 10/09/2024 19:26

OP if you ditch this loser tightarse who nobody likes you'll probably find you've suddenly got a lot more friends. People have got to know you a bit over the past 8yrs, they like you but they don't like him, so they keep their distance to avoid socialising with him. They also know him, his finances/situation and see he takes advantage of you financially. They don't like it or him. So when they see you've had a disagreement and there's atmosphere between you, they tentatively offer solidarity with a "we know what he's like" vibe to see how you react and whether or not you defend him/get annoyed with them. I'd give these others a chance and cool it with tightarse. Don't think you can't change the status quo either, of course you can! Do you not think for one moment that if your current setup no longer suited him, he'd not seek to change it? He surely would, he's well used to getting things to his liking. Start by being "busy", telling him he can't come over at the weekend, every weekend. Use that time for dating. I suspect all you are to him is free beer and somewhere to hang out to avoid family life of a weekend. On weekends when he does come over say you're cutting down drinking and serve him tea! Stop letting him use you and see if he fades away, I'm willing to bet he does. Invest time in other potential friends and dating, that's investing in your future.