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Job advert for volunteer to cuddle babies in NICU

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columbosscruffycoat · 09/09/2024 21:29

My local health authority has just advertised for volunteers to go and work in the nicu cuddling babies. It’s not a joke, it’s a genuine advert. I can’t imagine any parent would want some random person cuddling their poorly baby. I can’t believe the nhs has come to this. Just wondered what people think about this and whether it’s happening anywhere else in the uk. I’m in the northwest uk.

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usernamealreadytaken · 09/09/2024 22:46

columbosscruffycoat · 09/09/2024 21:29

My local health authority has just advertised for volunteers to go and work in the nicu cuddling babies. It’s not a joke, it’s a genuine advert. I can’t imagine any parent would want some random person cuddling their poorly baby. I can’t believe the nhs has come to this. Just wondered what people think about this and whether it’s happening anywhere else in the uk. I’m in the northwest uk.

Would you prefer they pay a professional with a medical qualification £££ to cuddle babies instead of undertaking clinical duties? 🙄

MrsCarson · 09/09/2024 22:46

Some babies have older siblings with no one to look after them and Mum can only be there for short periods and may live far away.
I met some of the baby cuddlers when I was in college we did a day in the NICU. I always said I'd love that job after doing it for the afternoon back then.
Edited to add we did foster care for about 10 years and seeing I was a nurse I used to be sent the little babies to care for. Many were born with drugs in their system, so I had that inconsolable baby to cuddle often, with each one you find a way to console them and calm them with practise, feeding was slow and challenging with trouble sucking. But that was the most satisfying thing I've really ever done that wasn't to do with my own family. I loved the 2am feeds, just me and the baby all quiet in the house, or 4am watching the sun come up in a rocking chair and cuddling.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 09/09/2024 22:46

SouthLondonMum22 · 09/09/2024 22:32

But unless you know their situation and I'm not talking about just a 5 minute chat. How do you actually know why they are leaving?

There's also nothing wrong with taking a break. Driving yourself to exhaustion with no breaks can't be beneficial to a baby.

Edited

One of them was an acquaintance. She had husband employed in same place as mine, both given same generous paternity leave and one older child the same age as mine. We lived in the same estate. Similar income and access to hospital transport by private car.

They did an hour a day.

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Drizzlethru · 09/09/2024 22:47

I think it is great. With the birth of my 3rd child, I was in HDU whilst my little one (premature) was rushed to SCUBU. Thankfully my DH knew to leave me and go with the baby after we sadly lost a baby born early in hospital and grandparents had the children at home.

Had we not had family, to know someone was with our little girl would have been a blessing nd relief.

Grendell · 09/09/2024 22:48

I've been one of these volunteers. You had to be a mother to qualify. I focused on babies whose mothers were in prison. They have so many alarms connected to them and the nurses were always walking around.

TheBers2024 · 09/09/2024 22:48

I would have absolutely hated that when my ds was in NICU. The thought of anyone other than me or dh cuddling him would have upset me . I would have declined / opted out.

Thats about you as an adult with learnt behaviour though. Your baby would have thrived on the contact because it's just a little human. It would still have known you were its mum.

triballeader · 09/09/2024 22:51

I will always be grateful to all who stepped in and held my newborns. I nearly died with the first who was preterm and too ill to care I had a baby
let alone cuddle him. Third was a very scary delivery again too ill to look after home and he never slept. The only time he stopped screaming was when he was held. Fourth….lets just say I had three others and she was so tiny and frail I was scared to handle her. Knowing someone would do kangaroo care for her so I could go home for a bit to see the others helped. Her grandparents where trying to juggle the others at home for me. I would not have trusted friends to do that only screened and trained hospital volunteers who could work alongside the skilled nurses.
And yes I saw babies in NNICU who had been born addicted, poor little mites needed all the extra TLC they could get from screened volunteers.

Kendodd · 09/09/2024 22:51

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 22:12

I just know how I felt at the time when we couldn’t hold him so when we could I wanted to I’d have felt very weird letting anyone else and I was so anxious about germs etc and hormonal I just would not have been happy at all

It's not for your benefit though, it's for the benefit of the baby.

nextdoornightmares · 09/09/2024 22:52

Bawdrip · 09/09/2024 21:44

I spent a long time in hospital with my newborn and as I was breastfeeding I rarely left his side- cup of tea, shower, loo and maybe 3 hours to sleep if I was lucky. So I spent most nights on the ward and all days. I couldn't believe how many parents would leave late afternoon and reappear, or disappear for a few hours at a time. They knew their babies were in the best hands but my God, I would run down to the shop and back and feel so guilty for leaving him.
One night a baby suffering drug withdrawal literally screamed all night, there were two nurses in the bay for 8 babies. I stayed with mine all night, one held the screaming baby as much as she could and the other nurse dealt with the other 6. It was heartbreaking. This baby just needed to be held. As did the others but at least they slept on and off so the nurse could do all her checks in-between. If parents can't (won't??) be there 24/7 then anyone to cuddle is better than no one. I got strong agreement from them when i expressed surprise at being the only mum there most of the time.These were all recently operated on babies who had been through traumatic surgery.
I'd like to volunteer for this when I'm retired.

Sorry but this sounds really judgemental and like you think you're a better parent just because you basically spent 24/7 there.

We had twins born at 26 weeks who spent 3 months in the hospital. We did not spend all day every day sitting next to their incubators/ cots and never spent overnight there. None of the parents did. This was fully supported and even encouraged by the nurses and counsellor on the ward. They actively encouraged us to take breaks, a few hours during the day, going home early evening and not coming back until the next day, even a whole day off here and there after the first couple of months when the babies were very stable. It was pointed out to us that exhausting ourselves physically and mentally would probably end up just causing us to be so worn out by the time they finally came home that it would just be making life far more difficult than it had to be. It didn't mean we loved or cared about our children any less.

As for the job advert in question, I personally wouldn't have wanted a stranger holding my babies. In our hospital only parents were allowed to hold them so no other family or visitors were allowed to hold or even touch them. But I would have welcomed someone to talk to or to help in other ways.

Youmwarayoum · 09/09/2024 22:52

With two small children who have been in and out of hospital including several stays in HDU, I find this an invaluable service. It’s so hard when you’re on your own and you just want a bit of a breather from the room but you don’t want to leave your sick child. Having someone sit with him and cuddle him is very much needed as the nurses are too busy to do it themselves.

Kendodd · 09/09/2024 22:52

I'm shocked at the number of posters who wouldn't want their baby to benefit from this. If I had a prem baby, I'd want them cuddled, skin to skin, 24 hours a day in a low light space as that's what would be best for them both physically and psychologically. Regardless of how I felt, my baby would come first and if this improved their outcome (as all the evidence suggests it does) I would be all for it and very grateful to the volunteers.

BobbyBiscuits · 09/09/2024 22:53

I'd presume it's BC the mum isn't physically well enough or not present for whatever reason. It's presumably fully with parental consent.
It could be a role that trainee early years workers, experienced mums, or those who lost a baby to seek comfort while helping another family?

oakleaffy · 09/09/2024 22:54

Bawdrip · 09/09/2024 22:45

Yes, and if it's a volunteer (or parent) it frees up the nurses to care for the other babies. The night I witnessed was absolutely frantic, they have so many regular checks to do let alone the feeding and nappies and this baby sounded like it was being tortured all night long, only slightly better being held but there was an improvement at least.

Poor baby.
Have you read the old thread {Now in 'Classics' by a wonderful foster mother on here called ''EarthMotherImNot'' ?

It's heartbreaking and lovely at the same time.

EMIN takes on a withdrawing baby she calls ''Ladybird'' and sees her through her horrendous withdrawals.

Ladybird would be about 15 yrs old now.

Tragically lovely EMIN passed away.{Illness}

www.mumsnet.com/talk/mumsnet_classics/922821-drug-dependant-baby-advice-needed

Creamdecaramel · 09/09/2024 22:55

I’ve just looked online to see if there is any volunteer opportunities near me as I currently can’t work but that would be absolutely lovely. I’d happily go and do that if it gave the parents some comfort to know that their baby was having human contact. It would be nice to get to meet the parents too. How adorable

Scottishskifun · 09/09/2024 22:55

It's known as kangaroo care OP and there are studies that show it helps better outcomes for neonatal babies.

It might seem odd to you but when you have a baby in neonatal care with 2 nurses to 10 babies as the room is over capacity due to demand, a volunteer is amazing and goes through the same checks plus hygiene routine that others do.
It's absolutely heart wrenching leaving your newborn in neonatal, the nurses had to send me to eat.
Maybe educate yourself a bit into why it's a volunteer role because of the benefits babies get.

LittleMG · 09/09/2024 22:56

When my baby was in NICU me and my husband were able to be with him (thank you sick childrens trust) but there was one baby there they had an pad pointing at them with songs and cartoons. It was only one baby and we surmised it must be a parental request. Anyway, sometimes these babies are miles and miles away from their family, if you were a poor ill baby I’m sure you’d rather have a cuddle with a gentle Nan type person than be left with an iPad. Tbf to the op they may not get it, having a child in NICU is horrendous, it was the most darkest time in my life. It changes you and your perspective a lot. Before it happened to me I would probably have agreed.

Bawdrip · 09/09/2024 22:56

oakleaffy · 09/09/2024 22:54

Poor baby.
Have you read the old thread {Now in 'Classics' by a wonderful foster mother on here called ''EarthMotherImNot'' ?

It's heartbreaking and lovely at the same time.

EMIN takes on a withdrawing baby she calls ''Ladybird'' and sees her through her horrendous withdrawals.

Ladybird would be about 15 yrs old now.

Tragically lovely EMIN passed away.{Illness}

www.mumsnet.com/talk/mumsnet_classics/922821-drug-dependant-baby-advice-needed

I've not read it, too heartbreaking, but I have heard the story, and knew she had passed. What an invaluable service she gave.

QueenBitch666 · 09/09/2024 22:58

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 21:58

I would have absolutely hated that when my ds was in NICU. The thought of anyone other than me or dh cuddling him would have upset me . I would have declined / opted out.

This service is for babies that need contact. Can't believe you'd deprive a baby of that

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 22:59

CrispAppleStrudels · 09/09/2024 22:24

I'm another NICU mum. My logical, practical brain can absolutely understand how valuable this can be. My emotional, hormonal brain which still gets very upset thinking back to that time, feels very sad at the thought of someone else cuddling my baby when I couldn't be there - probably because i desperately wanted to be there all the time. I'm lucky that it was my first baby who spent time in NICU / SCBU and I was able to room in for all but one night, so I was able to be there most of the time (except for going home to shower as the hospital showers had no water for a week). I'll always be very grateful to the drs and nurses who cared for DD for the first 24hrs of her admittance whilst I was ill on the ward and DH was trying to look after us both. I remember cuddling my baby one night in SCBU and one of the night nurses singing to another baby across the room. But that somehow feels different to a volunteer doing the same role (even though logically it shouldn't be the case?) I think maybe because it's such a hard feeling being sent home without your baby that it's like a visceral response to that? Anyway, that's a long way of saying not to judge those posters on this thread who say they wouldn't want it because NICU experiences are tied up in a whole host of complex emotions that differs even depending on each baby's exact circumstances.

Thankyou you’ve really put that so well it’s so hard to explain I wasn’t coming across well in my posts but it’s just so hard to get across how it can feel

invisiblecat · 09/09/2024 22:59

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 09/09/2024 21:35

Great Ormond Street has been doing it for years. Human touch is essential for babies development, some babies don't have their own parents to be able to hold them due to being unwell themselves. Skin to skin contact for babies has been proven beneficial too.

Animal shelters operate socialisation volunteers, human interaction is important.

I agree with all of that. Sometimes all it needs is that human touch, especially if they are in an incubator and can't be moved, the person can just touch or stroke them. It can't always be mum or dad there 24/7. Mum has to sleep sometimes, and dad might be at home with other dc.

Our local animal shelter has kitten cuddlers.

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 23:00

QueenBitch666 · 09/09/2024 22:58

This service is for babies that need contact. Can't believe you'd deprive a baby of that

As I said it is clearly beneficial for a lot of babies I just wouldn’t feel comfortable and would opt out if I was in that situation

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/09/2024 23:02

I had to be resuscitated at birth - my mother described it as 'you came out, the doctor picked you up and they all ran out of the room'.

Nine days later (after she'd been treated for the post partum haemorrhage that started shortly after the room was vacated by everybody) somebody asked her if she'd like to see me. She was then returned to her hospital bed for another couple of weeks. I've seen a letter where my father called in a favour in between theatre slots so that he could sneak in to see me once a week as staff and wrote a letter to her to describe what I looked like, as he wasn't allowed to see her, either. My 17 year old sister was looking after my siblings, the house and the pets for the entire time until our mother was discharged and at some point after that, my mother was called to say I could be collected.

Possibly a coincidence, but my mother has also said that even though I rarely slept more than about three hours at a time, I never, ever cried and would just lay in my cot, looking at the ceiling and playing with a blanket. I think that could mean that nobody cuddled me more than a couple of times for a few minutes for weeks.

Shadowbox7 · 09/09/2024 23:03

Nothing new about this🤷‍♀️

oakleaffy · 09/09/2024 23:03

triballeader · 09/09/2024 22:51

I will always be grateful to all who stepped in and held my newborns. I nearly died with the first who was preterm and too ill to care I had a baby
let alone cuddle him. Third was a very scary delivery again too ill to look after home and he never slept. The only time he stopped screaming was when he was held. Fourth….lets just say I had three others and she was so tiny and frail I was scared to handle her. Knowing someone would do kangaroo care for her so I could go home for a bit to see the others helped. Her grandparents where trying to juggle the others at home for me. I would not have trusted friends to do that only screened and trained hospital volunteers who could work alongside the skilled nurses.
And yes I saw babies in NNICU who had been born addicted, poor little mites needed all the extra TLC they could get from screened volunteers.

Absolutely so- The Volunteers will be vetted and trained, and enhanced DBS checked.
They will be alongside hospital staff and supervised.
Not some randoms who stroll in off the street to 'cuddle a baby'.

Possibly it will be very distressed newborns who are withdrawing who will get this Volunteer comfort- and why shouldn't they.

stichguru · 09/09/2024 23:04

columbosscruffycoat · 09/09/2024 21:29

My local health authority has just advertised for volunteers to go and work in the nicu cuddling babies. It’s not a joke, it’s a genuine advert. I can’t imagine any parent would want some random person cuddling their poorly baby. I can’t believe the nhs has come to this. Just wondered what people think about this and whether it’s happening anywhere else in the uk. I’m in the northwest uk.

These days, it's not uncommon for a baby to be born really prem, to initially struggle, but quite quickly stabilise in terms of critical things. These babies are still tiny so often need an incubator for extra heat and maybe need IV food, but otherwise they basically need to grow. They are fragile, but they aren't poorly like about to die. They may simple need a warm place to rest and grow, and IV nutrition because their suck is weak or not yet developed. This means weeks, maybe months, in ICU. If the parents live in a rural area, the nearest hospital with a neo-natal ICU may be quite far away, and the parents may have other children. The reality for a lot of families is that maybe dad works 8-6 or longer 5 days a week and mum doing school runs for say a 6 year old and at home with a pre-schooler during the day. Dad has his paternity 2 weeks and then mum was expecting to take over with most weekday kids stuff again, school runs and the preschooler including the baby. She can't suddenly leave the 6 and 3 year old alone and she can't go to the baby between school runs, with the 3 year old on public transport everyday, so this is the next best thing.

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