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Job advert for volunteer to cuddle babies in NICU

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columbosscruffycoat · 09/09/2024 21:29

My local health authority has just advertised for volunteers to go and work in the nicu cuddling babies. It’s not a joke, it’s a genuine advert. I can’t imagine any parent would want some random person cuddling their poorly baby. I can’t believe the nhs has come to this. Just wondered what people think about this and whether it’s happening anywhere else in the uk. I’m in the northwest uk.

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ButterAsADip · 09/09/2024 22:11

That’s been going for ages.

GinToBegin · 09/09/2024 22:12

Simonjt · 09/09/2024 22:03

I’m genuinely shocked that people would rather their baby was alone, especially as NICU and special care parents know that physical touch is a vital need for a baby and improves their outcome.

On a positive note, at least one poster has reconsidered their views on the matter, and I’m sure I’m not the only who has learnt something from the thread.

Orangebadger · 09/09/2024 22:12

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 09/09/2024 21:35

This is not a service for babies whose parents are visiting them every day.

I spent hours in NICU cuddling a baby boy who was born addicted to drugs and whose only comfort was being tightly swaddled and rocked while he was wracked with pain.

This! Not all babies in NICU have parents, some are waiting foster placement.

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stripybobblehat · 09/09/2024 22:12

Mum might be dead or too ill to cuddle. I think it's a great idea

longestlurkerever · 09/09/2024 22:12

I'm fortunate that my children didn't need extended hospital stays but I remember how much I didn't want to put them in the cot thing. I didn't mind at all other people holding them (admittedly family members and nurses) but hated the thought of them being alone in the cot. I'd be pleased about these volunteers. In fact I know someone applying and she'd be awesome. She's aware of the difficult circumstances these families may be in and wants to make a difference.

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 22:12

Simonjt · 09/09/2024 22:10

I just can’t imagine being happy to say no to something that would benefit my child and potentially increase her chances of a good outcome, both physically and psychologically.

I just know how I felt at the time when we couldn’t hold him so when we could I wanted to I’d have felt very weird letting anyone else and I was so anxious about germs etc and hormonal I just would not have been happy at all

Perplexed20 · 09/09/2024 22:13

This has been a scheme for years.
It's brilliant and has a strong evidence base - it hugely helps attachment and brain development plus regulation of systems.
Not all parents van be there all the time, neither can friends or family.

These people are dbs checked and get training.

DodoTired · 09/09/2024 22:13

Theirishwoman · 09/09/2024 21:56

Not all babies are born in situations where parents or families/friends of parents are safe or even interested. I have worked in NICUs. A lot. there are plenty of babies born each year to people either dangerous or disinterested.

the outrage here really speaks to the privilege a lot of Mumsnetters have. I have cuddled and sang to a withdrawing baby multiple times at 3am on a night shift while writing my notes as the on call doctor. It’s a part of the caring duty. Being held is a medical requirement for babies.

Not having addiction is privilege? Sure, mumsnetters may not have seen all dark things in life but use of a word privilege in this context is a bit weird

Wimwims · 09/09/2024 22:13

I would love to volunteer once I retire but I do wonder how it works. Having spent so much of my working life in a public-facing role getting a load of abuse thrown at me all the time, I would like a change of pace and wouldn't fancy volunteering in a role which would involve a lot of angry parents shouting at me and accusing me of stealing their children.

Are parents asked about this in advance? Are volunteers assigned only to the babies whose parents can't ever be there?

What about Johnny's mum who is there all day every day except for a couple of hours in the morning? Am they tasked with cuddling Johnny and then dealing with his mum who arrives at 9am screaming at them to put her child down and never touch him again?

I get that it's a role that's going to be hard in its own way but the comments here show that, unless it's something that's volunteered for by parents, it's likely to be a very conflict-heavy one.

I think it's a shame some people feel that way. Presumably you're ok with your baby being fed and changed while you're not here. Human contact is a need just like those things. And presumably you'd be ok if you came into the nurse comforting and holding your baby. As long as volunteers are trained, vetted, and not left alone, I don't get the issue.

AGoingConcern · 09/09/2024 22:13

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 22:06

as it happened we weren’t allowed to even touch him for 7 days. He wasn’t allowed to be held at all or touched unless it was for a medical reason or nappy change due to his breathing problems so he had to go without t human touch. I think though if the choice had been there I’d still not have been happy as I wanted to hold him

These volunteers aren't used to supplant parents, they're a supplement. When the baby can be safely held, the parents or other close adult relatives are the first choice to do it. Volunteers help when parents aren't able for whatever reason.

TiredTeaBag · 09/09/2024 22:14

My husband and I were on our knees when our youngest was in NICU. Trying to care for a toddler, recover from surgery, pump furiously, and navigate the steep learning curve of a very sick infant.

We ate like shit and we slept on a knife edge.

Nothing gave me more pleasure than arriving for a visit to find a that a kind nurse was comforting him in her arms despite all the tubes and machinery, even more so as I had some issues bonding in the beginning (pure trauma).

These cuddlers will be vetted and trained.

I think it's great, and I applaud it. So good for preemies to feel human touch.

Bawdrip · 09/09/2024 22:14

Obeseandashamed · 09/09/2024 22:07

It's not just about parents not able to be there... sadly there are a hell of a lot of parents who choose not to. One of my children spent 2 months in NICU and there were parents who would visit once a week and some less frequently 😔 a baby cuddler is a great idea subject to the right checks etc. it also allows nurses to concentrate on medical care instead.

Yes, it's unimaginable to most, but it really does happen. Or they even treat it like a day out to see the baby, rather than actually parenting every minute of the day they possibly can. It's really upsetting to witness.

FeedingThem · 09/09/2024 22:15

BellaTheDarkOverlord · 09/09/2024 22:01

My baby was in neonatal for 8 weeks. There were signs everywhere saying only mother and father could hold babies due to infection risks. I wouldn’t have been happy to find a volunteer holding my 2lb baby and potentially infecting her.

The service is great for those babies that need it but it wasnt for my situation.

Edited

Not all babies will be held though, I didn't get to hold my own until he was two weeks old, and they wouldn't need volunteers where parents were able to be there. Re infection, it's no different to the nurses tending them. They aren't just popping in off the street, chugging on a fag and picking a baby at random to snuggle.

ILoveNigelTufnel · 09/09/2024 22:15

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 09/09/2024 21:35

This is not a service for babies whose parents are visiting them every day.

I spent hours in NICU cuddling a baby boy who was born addicted to drugs and whose only comfort was being tightly swaddled and rocked while he was wracked with pain.

My aunt has done this for many years too. Thank you for being as awesome as she is, it is vital for the babies.

Itsagooddeal · 09/09/2024 22:15

AGoingConcern · 09/09/2024 22:13

These volunteers aren't used to supplant parents, they're a supplement. When the baby can be safely held, the parents or other close adult relatives are the first choice to do it. Volunteers help when parents aren't able for whatever reason.

I can see it would be beneficial for some babies but I just would not be comfortable with it for my baby

Nagatha · 09/09/2024 22:15

Have you ever had to leave your baby on their own in NICU?

CinnamonJellyBeans · 09/09/2024 22:16

You might be surprised at how some parents do not attend the NICU, even when they really actually can. I've seen it first hand and it's an eye-opener

AGoingConcern · 09/09/2024 22:16

Wimwims · 09/09/2024 22:13

I would love to volunteer once I retire but I do wonder how it works. Having spent so much of my working life in a public-facing role getting a load of abuse thrown at me all the time, I would like a change of pace and wouldn't fancy volunteering in a role which would involve a lot of angry parents shouting at me and accusing me of stealing their children.

Are parents asked about this in advance? Are volunteers assigned only to the babies whose parents can't ever be there?

What about Johnny's mum who is there all day every day except for a couple of hours in the morning? Am they tasked with cuddling Johnny and then dealing with his mum who arrives at 9am screaming at them to put her child down and never touch him again?

I get that it's a role that's going to be hard in its own way but the comments here show that, unless it's something that's volunteered for by parents, it's likely to be a very conflict-heavy one.

I think it's a shame some people feel that way. Presumably you're ok with your baby being fed and changed while you're not here. Human contact is a need just like those things. And presumably you'd be ok if you came into the nurse comforting and holding your baby. As long as volunteers are trained, vetted, and not left alone, I don't get the issue.

Of course parents are asked and volunteers never have priority over parents. No one is "stealing" babies. They're there to provide human touch when parents aren't available.

stripybobblehat · 09/09/2024 22:16

Obeseandashamed · 09/09/2024 22:07

It's not just about parents not able to be there... sadly there are a hell of a lot of parents who choose not to. One of my children spent 2 months in NICU and there were parents who would visit once a week and some less frequently 😔 a baby cuddler is a great idea subject to the right checks etc. it also allows nurses to concentrate on medical care instead.

Unless you know why they didn't visit as often as you deem appropriate it's probably best not to judge

Mugcake · 09/09/2024 22:17

I think it sweet, it can really help babies who are born with addiction, and babies who may not have anyone else to do it.

Cherrysoup · 09/09/2024 22:18

Honestly, I’d love that! No responsibility except to cuddle a baby, lovely! I think I can see myself volunteering to sit and chat with geriatric patients/babies when I retire. I’m already enhanced dbs cleared, bring it on!

HeyPrestoAlakazam · 09/09/2024 22:19

I can see it would be beneficial for some babies but I just would not be comfortable with it for my baby

But they only would have held him if you weren't around or able to? They wouldn't have been preventing you from holding him.

You'd literally have rather he was left alone and distressed with no one to hold him than have someone else hold him and care for hom in your absence? You would have purposely prevented that?

And they'd have been subject to the same infection control procedures as the doctors and nurses.

Sorry...as much as I understand that having a child in the NICU seriously ill is traumatic and overwhelming, I just can't wrap my head around denying them the contact they may have needed because a parent wants to be the only one to hold them.

I really hope these volunteers aren't subject to abuse as part of their role.

AmyAW · 09/09/2024 22:19

My SIL does this. Works for the NHS, supporting children who need physio after neurological trauma. Part of her role is cuddling babies in NICU, often those who don't have a mother or father to do so. Many aren't placed in foster care for weeks or months.

Imagine, a baby having no cuddles for that length of time... These are hugely important roles.

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CinnamonJellyBeans · 09/09/2024 22:20

stripybobblehat · 09/09/2024 22:16

Unless you know why they didn't visit as often as you deem appropriate it's probably best not to judge

Honestly: You spend time there and you will see it's true.