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Know it all child!

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Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 08:22

Trying to be patient with my 8 year old DS as I've just had a baby (same Dad - massive gap due to multiple miscarriages) so I know he will be feeling weird but I'm running on minimal sleep so as a result my tolerance levels are on the floor - he is SUCH a know it all it drives me nuts. He has to correct me about absolutely everything. If I say the time is 2.30 he will say no it isn't, it's 2.28. If I'm driving and we are in traffic he will say why are we going so slowly, you should have gone x way instead. If I close my eyes while feeding the baby he will say you're not meant to go to sleep (I'm obviously not asleep). If I say something to him and he asks me to repeat it and I can't remember EXACTLY what I said word for word he has to correct me.

It's driving me demented!! Is it an age thing?!

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Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:01

Gatehouse77 · 27/08/2024 10:00

I have found that around that age children, boys in particular but not exclusively, get a heightened sense of injustice…but mostly where it affects themselves.

Some of it can be down to language. For example, when they ask the time say it’s about 2.30 because you’re rounding up/down which ties in with what they’re learning at school.

Validate his responses but add on turquoise is in the spectrum of blue so you’re both right.

Don’t forget that he’s testing boundaries and there’s probably plenty of examples where you’re (as any parent) correcting him. He’s modelling the behaviour he sees but doing it like an 8 year old

Easier said than done, I know!

This is helpful, thank you.

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Bollindger · 27/08/2024 10:03

He is just trying to hold a conversation with you.
So thank him and change the subject.
Thanks, x way is faster , but I like passing the blue house.
Thanks, yes your right , we have gain 2 mins, so that is good.

Raincoatsandwellies · 27/08/2024 10:04

I have this experience often! Although half the time I actually am wrong and my DD is correct! I end up apologising about 50% of the time.

But some conversations! Such as this morning
We went at 6pm
No they shut at 5pm, we went before then
No Mummy I remember....
No it definitely wasn't 6pm
It was Mummy because...
It really wasn't, they were not open at that time
Yeah Mummy but....
Okay fine yeah it doesn't really matter anyway... What shall we have for dinner?

I do actually find it funny half the time, but I really struggle with accepting the wrong answer!
And my DD is a rule stickler... Unless it's her breaking the rules 😂

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Butwhybecause · 27/08/2024 10:04

It's always amazed me how much they learn in such a short space of time of being on this earth! Far more than any adult.

Don’t forget that he’s testing boundaries and making sure he still has plenty of attention with a new baby occupying his mother's time and energy.

"Yes, dear" ....... "Of course, dear" .......

WinterCarlisle · 27/08/2024 10:06

My friend’s son was like this from the moment he could talk: drove everyone nuts. He was super cute which helped but OMG he was relentless. Anyway, fast forward to him being 15 and he’s a self directed learner who OUT OF CHOICE just did 5 GCSEs in his own time and got 5 9s. I’m still astonished as I have a 15 year old who hasn’t opened a single book over the summer 🙄.

Also, re the query ASD - it is worth fighting and fighting (and I know you’re tired) to get him assessed. Maybe look at the right to choose via the GP. I have two ND children and one was not assessed until secondary which definitely made life harder for him. Definitely consider your choice of secondary and look at ones with good SEN provision as in my experience this really helps.

Best of luck! Here’s hoping for some sleep soon

AgileGreenSeal · 27/08/2024 10:06

I have a grandson like this.
He’s almost 8, and corrects me constantly about everything.
It is annoying. 😑

Gardendiary · 27/08/2024 10:06

I think @SummerHouse has a really good explanation for why he might be doing it now.
However, I would have to gently pull him up on some of it, because it is rude, and if he continued when he was older then correcting other people over minor things could make them feel uncomfortable and embarrassed.
I know its a possible asd trait, I have a dd with asd and I still think its okay to pick up on this because its bloody annoying and asd is not a free pass to make someone else uncomfortable - in the same way that I would expect other people to respect her noise sensitivity and not be overly loud. I know a lot of people aren't keen on any expectation to modify behaviour, but I think where the child has the understanding it can be helpful, because they also have to fit in with other children, who will equally hate being corrected all the time.

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:08

AgileGreenSeal · 27/08/2024 10:06

I have a grandson like this.
He’s almost 8, and corrects me constantly about everything.
It is annoying. 😑

Are you my mother 😆

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Noseylittlemoo · 27/08/2024 10:12

There's an announcement on the tube which is read out by a child telling you to take care on the escalators and hold on to the handrail! I get unreasonably irritated by a child telling me what to do/stating the obvious!!

SingingSands · 27/08/2024 10:13

menopausalmare · 27/08/2024 08:45

My sons catchphrase is, "I know".
(No, you don't, mate🙄).

I laughed out loud at this - my DS only grew out of this last year (he's 16!)

gingeristhenewblack43 · 27/08/2024 10:13

I don't really want to be the bearer of bad news but DD (almost 13) is still like this. I call her google, she knows everything, corrects me on everything. Her favourite is driving, tells me how to drive, questions my speed, my use of indicators. How I was able to drive before she was born without her micro managing my driving is a mystery 🤷🏼‍♀️

The time is another favourite of hers:
Me: come on, it's 8.30 we need to leave.
Her: Actually it's 8.31 so we're late 🙄

Both school and I suspect ASD but CAHMS won't assess as her behaviours and difficulties are not 'severe' enough.

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:15

gingeristhenewblack43 · 27/08/2024 10:13

I don't really want to be the bearer of bad news but DD (almost 13) is still like this. I call her google, she knows everything, corrects me on everything. Her favourite is driving, tells me how to drive, questions my speed, my use of indicators. How I was able to drive before she was born without her micro managing my driving is a mystery 🤷🏼‍♀️

The time is another favourite of hers:
Me: come on, it's 8.30 we need to leave.
Her: Actually it's 8.31 so we're late 🙄

Both school and I suspect ASD but CAHMS won't assess as her behaviours and difficulties are not 'severe' enough.

I have considered paying for a private assessment but my understanding is that SEN support won't apply without an NHS diagnosis.

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Bathwoodnurse · 27/08/2024 10:16

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 09:58

I'm neurodiverse too, it doesn't give carte blanche for people not to get annoyed with me when I am behaving in an annoying way (ie - interrupting constantly - thank you ADHD). I don't show him I am annoyed with him, it just silently drives me nuts.

And it long preceded the baby!

That poster chastised you for being (quite naturally) annoyed by your son's pedantry, then went on to say if DC corrects my timekeeping to 2:28 or whatever I just say “oh, so it is” and move on. I find DC’s pedantry annoying 🤷. Also, the YOU TURNED HIS WORLD UPSIDE DOWN by having a second child - hyperbole much? Perhaps no one should have more than one child to avoid the catastrophic effects this apparently has on existing offspring.

SockQueen · 27/08/2024 10:16

Oh this was me as a child. It felt really uncomfortable when something was wrong, or a rule was being broken. I was an absolute insufferable know it all, I could have given Hermione Granger a run for her money! I would also get really distressed when my class weren't behaving at school.

My parents mostly just let it wash over them - though I'm afraid I was still doing it when I was learning to drive, and wound them up no end but telling them every single "mistake" they were making. My peers at school (verbally) beat it out of me eventually. Or I grew out of it. I still hate the feeling when I know something is wrong, but am better at suppressing it. Good luck!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/08/2024 10:17

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 09:10

Oh yes we get that - mummy you're doing 31 you need to slow down OR mummy you're doing 28 you need to speed up.

Equip him with further phrases for his 'Middleaged Dad' phase.

'It's a speed limit, not a target'

'All they'll do is get to the next red light 3 seconds faster'

'Just because you can doesn't mean just because you should'

'It'll be in the last place you look'

'You make a great door but a rubbish window'

'You could confuse an idiot with that'

'Hi, Hungry, I'm Pluntolo'

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:20

Bathwoodnurse · 27/08/2024 10:16

That poster chastised you for being (quite naturally) annoyed by your son's pedantry, then went on to say if DC corrects my timekeeping to 2:28 or whatever I just say “oh, so it is” and move on. I find DC’s pedantry annoying 🤷. Also, the YOU TURNED HIS WORLD UPSIDE DOWN by having a second child - hyperbole much? Perhaps no one should have more than one child to avoid the catastrophic effects this apparently has on existing offspring.

I'm one of five kids - the trauma!

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Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:23

SockQueen · 27/08/2024 10:16

Oh this was me as a child. It felt really uncomfortable when something was wrong, or a rule was being broken. I was an absolute insufferable know it all, I could have given Hermione Granger a run for her money! I would also get really distressed when my class weren't behaving at school.

My parents mostly just let it wash over them - though I'm afraid I was still doing it when I was learning to drive, and wound them up no end but telling them every single "mistake" they were making. My peers at school (verbally) beat it out of me eventually. Or I grew out of it. I still hate the feeling when I know something is wrong, but am better at suppressing it. Good luck!

DS also can't stand it when peers misbehave. It distresses him. We struggle with having his friends over because inevitably they end up pissing about and he doesn't like it - last time we had one over he threw the key to our back door over the neighbours' fence and DS was beyond horrified.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 27/08/2024 10:26

My son has been like this since he could talk. He does have autism though and js fixated on things being absolutely correct. I just let it wash over me because he can't help it really. I get it's irritating though 🥴

Bathwoodnurse · 27/08/2024 10:27

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:20

I'm one of five kids - the trauma!

😄 Me too! Perhaps we need a support group?

RaspberryWhirls · 27/08/2024 10:29

GingerPirate · 27/08/2024 09:12

Idk what is worse, a know it all adult or a child!
😁

Some children do not grow out of it and end up being infuriating adults lile my colleague.

And believe me they've had 20 years to perfect their know it all skills, so they're even more annoying.

Sometimes at the end of a 12 hr shift with said know it all colleague, I could happily walk in front of a moving bus.

These people have no idea of the impact their behaviour has on others.

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:30

Bathwoodnurse · 27/08/2024 10:27

😄 Me too! Perhaps we need a support group?

Not only am I one of five but I also occasionally had to look after my younger siblings which in MN world is abuse/child labour.

Should be in therapy for that.

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MaidOfAle · 27/08/2024 10:30

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 09:36

He's definitely on the spectrum but school won't support a diagnosis because he behaves himself and does very well academically.

The school don't need to support anything. You could request an assessment anyway. Autistic children can mask all day at school and then unmask at home where they feel safe.

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:32

MaidOfAle · 27/08/2024 10:30

The school don't need to support anything. You could request an assessment anyway. Autistic children can mask all day at school and then unmask at home where they feel safe.

Maybe I've been given incorrect info but I've been told the NHS won't give me a diagnosis unless school support it. Apparently my word as his mother isn't good enough!

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Magazinerack · 27/08/2024 10:32

Leafcutterantsarecool · 27/08/2024 09:54

Right, so you’re actually getting cross with a child for displaying fairly common traits of their disability? Would you get wound up by a hearing impaired child who didn’t come when you shouted them for dinner?

Your newborn is not his fault, you turned his life upside down and he’s coping in ways that are merely annoying - he’s not being destructive or attacking his sibling. I don’t allow backseat driving from my autistic child because it’s dangerous, but if DC corrects my timekeeping to 2:28 or whatever I just say “oh, so it is” and move on. I find DC’s pedantry annoying, they find my inaccuracy equally annoying and difficult - they aren’t doing it to be rude or get one up on me, they genuinely think they know I’m wrong and they don’t deal well with things being wrong.

I get wound up by my autistic son all the time 😆 relax

Pluntolo · 27/08/2024 10:33

RaspberryWhirls · 27/08/2024 10:29

Some children do not grow out of it and end up being infuriating adults lile my colleague.

And believe me they've had 20 years to perfect their know it all skills, so they're even more annoying.

Sometimes at the end of a 12 hr shift with said know it all colleague, I could happily walk in front of a moving bus.

These people have no idea of the impact their behaviour has on others.

I should think if you have an adult colleague who tells you blue is really turquoise or it's not 2.30, it's 2.28, then they almost certainly have something else going on.

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