Super yacht sinking - did the crew bravely survive or did they abandon their the passengers

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So....most of the crew survived this tragedy but the passengers died. Do you think it will emerge the crew should have e done more to alrt the passengers and indeed put their lives in danger to attempt a rescue? Maybe it was all just too fast?

I just think there seems silence from the crew at moment despite being survivors of a sinking vessel who have a story to tell. Are lawyers advising they stay quiet on this?

I can't see how it would be possible for crew to save people in cabins.

The water rushing in and sinking vessel

And yet, here you are, reading and replying to a thread. Which I then respond to, giving the post more traction.

We will find out what really happened when there is a formal inquiry, but it seems plausible that the entire crew was on deck because of the storm coming in and they were probably trying to secure the hatches etc. We know Mrs Lynch had left her cabin to investigate - maybe she asked her husband to assemble the guests and he was doing so when the yacht sank.

Sounds like they were fortunate that someone was quick-witted enough to launch the life raft. In the dark, on a boat pitching and floundering with ropes everywhere, I don't see what else the crew could have done. Whether there was negligence with open hatches or the keel being up will be established. I'd have thought the captain would have sole responsibility if procedures to secure the boat before the storm weren't followed.

The only fuck up seems to have been leaving the hatches open. Those sleeping below were doomed, given how quickly it happened. The crew, on deck and with their quarters much higher up in the boat, would have had a better chance of escape than those in their cabins and wouldn’t have had time to mount a rescue bid. The cook died - he was below in the galley at the time.

No-one on that vessel should have been below in that weather and none of the hatches should have been open.

Maybe it's very hard to tell the super rich what to do which can actually have a negative impact on their safety in situations like this.

I don't really think that suggesting that people don't speculate is participating in speculation. As for 'giving the thread more traction', I guess I was hoping that actual words might have a tiny bit more significance than tiny micro-shifts in the thread's position in the active convos list.

The crew appear to be on deck but no one expected the boat to go down that quick. The passengers would have to be woken and told to get on deck NOW with their life jackets. But someone has to go down into the boat and raise the alarm. All this in the time you've read this post? If you or one of your children were on that boat would you go down there? Waters coming in fast, anything loose will be impeding you getting to the passengers and/or impeding your exit. An inquiry may reveal more but the crew were probably trying to secure the vessel in the dark with water pouring down on them and then finding the boat starting to capsize. Nothing you can do now, you are going in the water.

Interesting report in a French outlet - LeMonde, apparently some were woken and went up on deck to investigate further, this included Mike Lynch's wife, the boat then flipped over.

I'd expect the crew to be on deck trying to save the boat, it flips suddenly, no time to save the passengers.

Anyway, the Italians always take this sort of thing serious, there will be a full criminal investigation, as there is in most deaths of this type in Italy.

Are you for real?

Horrible post OP.
The survivors were awake and on deck, those who died were asleep below deck.!the boat went down instantly so all they could do was float in the water, no sack no people or getti life rafts or jackets let alone anything else

Agree 100%. The super rich often think they are invincible.

I notice the news has stopped mentioning a waterspout.

Ironic that the manufacturer is onscreen saying the thing is unsinkable. Ummmm....

not all the crew were saved

The crew will have been on the upper decks while the passengers were below deck, it all happened so fast the crew will have had 2 choices, save yourself or drown, they made the right choice. They wouldn't have been able to help anyone on the lower decks and had the right to get out if they could, just because they weren't as wealthy doesn't mean their lives are expendable.

The keel on the boat would likely be automatic.
Deck hatches open to allow cool air flow? unlikly yachts of this size will have generators so air con would have been on! the boat needs a generator on all the time or a shore power supply.

As for what happened, there will be a full investigation by MCA as its uk flagged.

all the crew will be STCW trained, but as others have said would you expect the chamber maid to reuse you from a burning hotel

I imagine it was all really quick and there was probably nothing anyone could really do, especially if the theory of open port holes is found to be correct. Remember the Herald of Free Enterprise, that rush of water just sank the ship so quickly. A very sad situation for all.

good point about the chambermaid if in a burning hotel,
no,
you are on your own

It was quite early in the morning, so I imagine the baby wanted to be up and about. It might have saved their lives!

@DowngradedToATropicalStorm It's every bit as distasteful to presume the passengers wouldn't listen to crew instructions as it is to presume the crew didn't attempt to save them. What an awful fucking post. There is NO evidence that the passengers ignored any crew instruction. People have lost their lives and you're being horrid because they had more money than you.

I didn't presume that. The poster that replied did but how do you explain the demographic of the dead compared to the live otherwise?

Exactly, the poor chef was the first of the victims to be found and identified. Obviously he had gone to bed after dinner, as had many of the passengers. The rest of the crew were obviously on deck cleaning up. Can't imagine the trauma those survivors have endured, can't stop thinking about that poor woman and her baby. Just beggars belief how quickly it all happened.

Also, why are you presuming they have more money than I do? See?

No one is presuming anything. We are speculating as to why the hatches were open after a hot day, when as a safety feature they apparently should have been closed.

I imagine it is difficult for low paid workers to challenge the requests/instructions from the super rich even if they think they are wrong. That is all. There will be a full investigation I hope which will end the speculation.

I doubt any of us care that they had more money than us, that is completely irrelevant.

I read that it went down in a matter of minutes. I also read that the yacht had one of the world's tallest masts and that might have contributed to how quickly it turned to tragedy and the yacht sunk.
A well known (in yacht circles) round the world yacht sailor said this...
Novak said he believed that strong gusts likely pushed the yacht over 90 degrees to its side, and the vessel did not recover because of the weight of the huge mast and because it was anchored. He suggested that internal doors were likely not closed, and water quickly poured in to sink the vessel