Really worried about the possibility of “pay per mile”

[Yorkiepud2614]

I’ve been seeing more and more about this new proposal “pay per mile” that would replace car duty (I think). Which the average household bill somewhere around £450 - £600. Lots of reports that it may come in this October.
Living in the Highlands this would completely cripple us. Do people really think the new government will bring this change in?

I haven’t made any more numbers up than the people who’ve said it won’t cost more.

Time will tell, you don’t know what is going to happen either.

That's a shame. Time to bring back 15 minute towns!

I think legalised cannabis would be a good way to make up the short fall😍

None of us know. I’ve said that repeatedly.

It’s the ones who seem certain on the opposite that it’ll all be fine, it will just cost the same who are the ones believing everything.

One thing is true though - the country is truly skint and they need to raise more money somehow.

No local doctors 3 miles away
No Shops
No Library

Would you like me to DM you where I live so that you can see for yourself and maybe even do a google street view.

Nearest tube 15 miles away, would take me 6 hours to walk to that.

Probably softening people up for an increase in the fuel duty plus car tax for electric vehicles.

Indeed, that also has potential.

Not really, but honestly you don't live in the capital city by any normal definition.

But it's ok because the poster I was actually discussing the issue with thinks you're actually better off, because "they" are trying to take away your freedom to be inconvenienced by long drives to the GP.

How long ago??

Towns and villages have been losing local amenities in ever increasing numbers over the past few years, with the advent of out of town retail parks, then internet shopping, and the final nail in the coffin for many was covid!

Completely possible. Still happens and it does need to happen as there’s legitimate reasons for it, new dials for instance.

Well technically I live in one now, but it's a very small town I guess.

I regularly visit the village I grew up in hundred e of miles away, and the same amenities are there now.

I have read all your interactions with the poster you are responding to and yes if they make pay per mile it will cause people like me that like in rural parts of a huge city pay more, why should I pay more if I have to go on longer journeys than someone like you that has everything on their doorstep.

I live in a capital city, stop being so obtuse, lots of my council tax goes to the London Assembly and yet I have nothing to show for it.

This exactly!
I pay per mile alteady, it's in the fuel that I use.
I'd like to know how the government propose to charge foreign drivers because obviously they are paying per mile via the fuel stations too.
If we have to pay a different way based on mileage why should we then be paying for all the non compliant foreign vehicles? What are the stats on them not paying speeding fines already because if those aren't being paid, nothing else will do!

You mean when population was probably half it is today, when towns were smaller, when there wasn't internet shopping, when there weren't out of town supermarkets and retail parks, when towns and villages had their own schools, when small towns had hospitals, when villages had bus services and many even had railway stations. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle. We ain't going back there! Things have moved on. We have to work with life as it is today, not how it was in the 50s and 60s!

The poster I am referring to is afraid of 15 minute cities.

Lots of foreign lorry drivers fill up before crossing the channel and only fill the bare minimum needed within the UK (if at all) before they cross the channel back to mainland Europe. They're paying nothing to the UK, no road tax, no fuel duty, etc., yet are competing against UK based firms who are taxed to the hilt.

It wasn’t a furore over ulez. It was a furore over Kahn bringing it forward with little support for people.

most people agreed with it. But bringing it forward was the issue. I’d love to see the cost to the tax payer for replacing the cameras. Although, they seem to have given up now and plenty of areas are ulez camera free

I can't speak about the 60s because I wasn't born then. I'm talking about the 80s and 90s.

The village where I grew up still has all those things you mention.

15 Mins cities are never going to work because the city will have to get bigger thus making the outward growth not within the 15 mins.

Tell me how I would like in a 15 min city from where I live. I will wait for your answer as Sadiq Khan thinks its possible for the whole of London.

Then your village is very lucky.

London is a 15 minute city, zone 1-6 anyway.

Was that any worse than my widowed neighbour in her 80s on a pension paying 100% or 75% and the young health adult nextdoor paying 20%? The houses were the same and I think one neighbour was a home owner and one was a tenant. I just assume the five neighbours who didn't like it shouted louder than the elderly widow and they got their way. As I said I never understood how that became such a big issue.

Where I live the camera had a police guard on it for 3 days, they buggered off it was cut down, then another one was put up with a CCTV camera next to it both got cut down, I can now drive my car about 5 miles without hitting one camera.

The elderly were cut off as they could not afford to replace their cars and some could not afford the £12.50.

Most people were ok with the policy if it was not rushed through in 9 months instead of the 4 and 2.5 year notice that was given for the other zones.

I live in zone 6 and have given you examples where its not, are you really that blinkered or just plain ignorant

Because your village does, doesn't mean the majority don't!