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Do you remember your past lives?

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SparklyJadeFawn · 22/08/2024 18:00

I remember two of mine.

I was just in a yoga class and a man there was telling me that he remembers all of his past lives.

I think it's so so interesting!

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Sparrowball · 25/08/2024 10:30

gardenmusic · 25/08/2024 10:11

Sparrowball

Nobody has any proof. We only have our beliefs.
I am pointing out here that actually far from 'Not many people believe in past lives though, I think'
A great many people do.

Yes, I just pointed out that many other have different beliefs.

Should does who believe in reincarnation "dismiss as crazy" all those who believe there's one life and an eternity with their god?

Either way, it is irrelevant, but using different religions to back up your belief in reincarnation isn't a valid argument. If all these religions are correct why is there so many of them? What happens if you believe in the 'wrong' one? Is your soul left on the scrap heap rather than being reincarnated?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/08/2024 10:31

I don’t have any personal experiences, but know of 2 children who’ve spoken in startling but very matter of fact tones about ‘before’. The most startling was a boy of around 4, certainly still pre school, who was visiting a site of Greek antiquities on holiday and exclaimed very happily that he used to live there! He pointed out the remains of various buildings where he used to live or play, and the remains of his friend’s house - he even gave an appropriate but slightly garbled Greek name for him.

All forgotten after he was about 5 though.

BeachParty · 25/08/2024 10:38

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 22/08/2024 18:29

It’s all nonsense.

If you’ve had reams about other countries etc it’s because you’ve heard of them, even in the smallest way e.g. through a radio programme or to or something you might have seen printed somewhere.

There’s no such thing as a past life. You’re born, you die, and it’s over.

I think there's just so much we don't know about many things, to just dismiss as nonsense.
I find this kind of thing fascinating.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

BeanCountingContinues · 25/08/2024 11:06

TheCadoganArms · 23/08/2024 07:59

Nobody can actually prove it's nonsense so I don't know why they're so certain it is.

You have perfectly invoked 'Russels Teapot' analogy. The burden of proof is on you, not the non believer.

But equally the non-believer has a scientific duty to be open-minded.
Someone with a closed mind who thinks they already know the answers is a very poor scientist.

BeanCountingContinues · 25/08/2024 11:17

Blackcats7 · 24/08/2024 12:53

Fine by me.
I believe in science not stories.

Oh the irony.
Science is not something one "believes" in. It is a formalised method of enquiry and investigation, and it is the resulting body of knowledge accumulated from such investigations.
It requires no 'belief'. Belief is utterly irrelevant to science.

Belief and non-belief are part of religion.
Science is not a religion - but many people treat it as such.

TheCadoganArms · 25/08/2024 11:55

BeanCountingContinues · 25/08/2024 11:06

But equally the non-believer has a scientific duty to be open-minded.
Someone with a closed mind who thinks they already know the answers is a very poor scientist.

I am a non believer because I have not been presented with any credible evidence that many of the claimed phenomena on this thread exist. All we have is ancedotal experiences of people who claim they were <insert figure from history> because of their interpretation of a dream or someone experiencing some funny feeling when walking down the street of some town. I sense there is a confirmation bias insofar as people wanting to believe in past lives so are willing to attribute every odd experience as evidence of that phenomenon being true. If that is the level of burden of proof to 'believe' then fill your boots. Decent scientist will freely admit that they don't know all the answers but they tend not to fill the gaps in their knowledge with unsubstantiated 'facts'. They can theorise and come up with hypothesis in attempt to explain the 'unknowns' and the scientific community can challenge and test those theories to destruction or endorse them. Someone just say 'no you have not convinced me' is not being closed minded, it's just being rational.

BeanCountingContinues · 25/08/2024 12:02

TheCadoganArms · 25/08/2024 11:55

I am a non believer because I have not been presented with any credible evidence that many of the claimed phenomena on this thread exist. All we have is ancedotal experiences of people who claim they were <insert figure from history> because of their interpretation of a dream or someone experiencing some funny feeling when walking down the street of some town. I sense there is a confirmation bias insofar as people wanting to believe in past lives so are willing to attribute every odd experience as evidence of that phenomenon being true. If that is the level of burden of proof to 'believe' then fill your boots. Decent scientist will freely admit that they don't know all the answers but they tend not to fill the gaps in their knowledge with unsubstantiated 'facts'. They can theorise and come up with hypothesis in attempt to explain the 'unknowns' and the scientific community can challenge and test those theories to destruction or endorse them. Someone just say 'no you have not convinced me' is not being closed minded, it's just being rational.

If a scientist lacks evidence, they remain open-minded. They may have one or more hypotheses that they prefer, but they don't say "I don't believe XYZ". A scientist says "I don't know about XYZ, as there is no evidence".

Belief or non-belief have no place in science.

Bringitonnowibeg · 25/08/2024 12:38

I've found michael newton books hard to follow.
Dolores Cannon is amazing and I love her books. Everything makes sense now.

TheCadoganArms · 25/08/2024 12:48

Bringitonnowibeg · 25/08/2024 12:38

I've found michael newton books hard to follow.
Dolores Cannon is amazing and I love her books. Everything makes sense now.

Delores Cannon wrote about how her Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique could cure AIDS, cancer, diabetes, flesh wounds, heart conditions, kidney diseases, vision issues, and other medical conditions as well as claiming to have taken some of her clients back to lives on planets other than Earth.

Do you actually believe that?

GorgeousTulips · 25/08/2024 13:20

TheCadoganArms · 25/08/2024 12:48

Delores Cannon wrote about how her Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique could cure AIDS, cancer, diabetes, flesh wounds, heart conditions, kidney diseases, vision issues, and other medical conditions as well as claiming to have taken some of her clients back to lives on planets other than Earth.

Do you actually believe that?

Could you quote what she actually said about curing diseases because I really doubt that is what she said.

gardenmusic · 25/08/2024 15:14

How does the fact that a religion believes in something make it real? Surely it's the reverse?

Tell that to anyone with a religion.

gardenmusic · 25/08/2024 15:38

Either way, it is irrelevant, but using different religions to back up your belief in reincarnation isn't a valid argument.

My point in the post was that calling believers crazy, or 'shouldn't be allowed to vote' trashes the beliefs of many people of different religions. That is what I object to.

I also responded to a post saying 'not many people believe in reincarnation'. Which is incorrect. A great many people do. I listed various religions that believe. That is not backing up my belief in reincarnation, that is correcting an incorrect statement with evidence.
We are not talking about a few people with outre or dangerous beliefs, we are talking about many people for whom this is an important factor in their lives.

I am a firm believer, but no way would I call crazy on anyone who does not share my belief. I would not trash catholicism, judaism or any other religion, and I expect the same courtesy from others.
I care not one jot if you share my beliefs, I'm not out to convert anyone, there is no 'argument', as we can only believe, no one knows.

Meadowwild · 25/08/2024 15:43

farleysrusks · 23/08/2024 14:47

I love my yoga classes, but one does tend to meet people with, shall we say, vivid imaginations.

I was getting on very well with the woman next to me at a dance class when she said, "I love coming here. It's so nice to be among other people who believe in fairies. My kids get such a hard time at school because we know fairies really exist."

She is a lovely woman but she is literally away with the fairies.

Meadowwild · 25/08/2024 15:53

BeanCountingContinues · 25/08/2024 12:02

If a scientist lacks evidence, they remain open-minded. They may have one or more hypotheses that they prefer, but they don't say "I don't believe XYZ". A scientist says "I don't know about XYZ, as there is no evidence".

Belief or non-belief have no place in science.

I haven't found that to be true. Every time a scientist says, 'We now know' I snort inwardly because they should be saying, "We now believe'. In ten years time, current scientific 'knowledge' will be disproved. Scientists seem particularly attached to the idea that they are right. That their theories are irrefutable facts.

I remember being taught the tongue's receptors tasted different flavours on different areas of the tongue. I immediately tested it and found it to be false and told the biology teacher. She said I was wrong and only thought I could taste a given flavour right at the back of my mouth or on the tip of my tongue. But we now 'know' I'm right. Grin

That's just one example from scores of them.

ABirdsEyeView · 25/08/2024 16:35

@GorgeousTulips it's called Matrix Mysteries

GoldenPineapple15 · 25/08/2024 16:51

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NoProblems · 25/08/2024 19:16

TheCadoganArms · 25/08/2024 09:59

So if lots of people believe in something despite the absence of any hard evidence for it then it becomes true?

Until relatively recently most people believed that the earth was the centre of the universe until Copernicus presented a different explanation.

What sort of hard evidence are you talking about?

Who do you expect to find such hard evidence?

There are numerous accounts of people remembering their past lives.

Only a person recalling a past life who is able to visit the place of his/her previous birth and recognise things/people there can be sure it is hard evidence.

The rest can either believe in the account or not believe in it - they can never have hard evidence of it.

The same thing applies to proof of a soul - only the person experiencing the soul can consider it as proof. The rest can either believe in it or not believe in it.

There are many such phenomena in the universe for which there can never be proof or hard evidence, except to the person experiencing them.

As for Copernicus, check what Einstein had to say about it.

Sparrowball · 25/08/2024 19:31

How does one "experience a soul"?

ladyintherain · 25/08/2024 19:40

Sparrowball · 25/08/2024 19:31

How does one "experience a soul"?

I have experienced my soul. It was just the basic me similar to me at 5 years old, without all the bad bits of a personality. I felt very peaceful and free, and completely happy

ladyintherain · 25/08/2024 19:41

(This happened spontaneously during an out of body experience)

NoProblems · 26/08/2024 22:43

Sparrowball · 25/08/2024 19:31

How does one "experience a soul"?

There are those who believe the body dies and that is the end of it.

Many of those who believe in reincarnation believe that inside the body there is a soul.

Experiencing the soul means being able to know oneself that one's body and one's soul are two different things.

Which means science or a third party can never find "hard evidence" of a soul.

Only the person experiencing it can regard it as "hard evidence".

Others either believe in it or they don't.

Anyone waiting for science to prove the existence of a soul can wait for ever. It is unprovable.

Sparrowball · 27/08/2024 01:00

NoProblems · 26/08/2024 22:43

There are those who believe the body dies and that is the end of it.

Many of those who believe in reincarnation believe that inside the body there is a soul.

Experiencing the soul means being able to know oneself that one's body and one's soul are two different things.

Which means science or a third party can never find "hard evidence" of a soul.

Only the person experiencing it can regard it as "hard evidence".

Others either believe in it or they don't.

Anyone waiting for science to prove the existence of a soul can wait for ever. It is unprovable.

That's very different to what @ladyintherain said and it still comes down to belief.

NoProblems · 27/08/2024 22:11

That is what I said - it is a matter of belief!

Science or any third party cannot prove to you that there is such a thing as a soul or there is such a thing as reincarnation.

To dismiss such phenomena by saying "there is no proof " or "there is no hard evidence" is nonsense. No one can prove things which are unprovable.

I answered your question from my point of view while ladyintherain did from hers.

But it is entirely up to an individual what to believe in.

Boxofstars · 13/10/2024 03:42

Im certain i lived in the USA in a past life.
I was fixated with american films since childhood and new york in particular.

I have dreamt about a townhouse in new york.
I love the american accent.

I also think i could have been a tsarina too.

Im sure i was upper class at least once too.

In this life i was born working class i always felt tghis life wasnt really me.

PeterGabrielsunderpants · 26/12/2024 16:39

I used to have a disturbing recurring dream. I was near a big river like the Thames, with steps leading down to the water. A boy was playing on the steps, he slipped and fell in. I had a small child with me, so told the child to sit on the steps and not move whilst I dived in to look for the boy, who had not surfaced. I dithered about whether to take my glasses off or not, as I knew I couldn't see well without them. Precious seconds were lost. I swam under the murky water but couldn't find the boy. I was really upset.
I used to have the dream frequently. On the last occasion that I ever dreamt it, it ended with my real-life spiritual teacher saying to me that these events really happened in a previous life. After that, I never had that dream again.