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Riots - should King Charles make a statement?

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StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:20

I am not from the UK so I am not sure of the protocol in situations like the ongoing riots. I know that he and Camilla and the Prince and Princess of Wales issued statements following the murder of the three little girls in Southport.
Is it outside their remit to make similar statements about the riots? Would it be considered political interference?
Editing to add that I am sure the rioters won't give a flying fuck about him or what he says but can he show support for those whose livlihoods have been destroyed or who are in hotels that are being set on fire/

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Ridiculousme · 05/08/2024 00:27

They purport (the rioters) to be patriots so technically they should do what he says. But he would come out with some meaningless drivel that they’d interpret as ‘go kill johnny foreigner’

PoopedAndScooped · 05/08/2024 00:41

Now the Ethno nationalists who are nazi scum are involved, it will all stop now.

The organised resistance,
The farage and Tommy Robinson supporters, as well as the football thugs will be done with this now that the Nazi’s are involved.
Lots and lots of ‘events’ now cancelled

Runnerinthenight · 05/08/2024 19:51

selfesteemfan · 04/08/2024 23:29

Probably be deleted but I say he isn't gonna say anything because they're a bit racist themselves that family.

Bollocks. What is your evidence?!

Viviennemary · 05/08/2024 19:54

No I don't think there is anything useful they can add. I wish they would just stop. and those counter protesters aren't helping IMHO.

silverbirches · 05/08/2024 20:07

What would be the point? The rioters have already displayed their total contempt for the police, anyone in authority, and the law of the land, so why would they pay any attention to KC?

VividQuoter · 05/08/2024 20:15

I was expecting the A-bishop to make one but where is the link

blackcherryconserve · 05/08/2024 20:16

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:32

Look as I said I'm not from the UK. To me the silence from Charles and William is deafening. I am just curious as to why they can say nothing.

They do not make political statements and nor should they. Charles holds no real power in the way that your Irish President may do. If anyone should be making a statement it will be Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, when he tells us what the xxxx he is doing to quell the riots. HTH.

AvrielFinch · 05/08/2024 20:32

@StSwithinsDay You are making the mistake of thinking our Royal Family are useful. They are not. They attend Wimbledon, appear on the balcony, and occasionally get a photo taken at a soup kitchen.
A few decide to do something useful like set up the Prince's Trust. But any work like that is entirely voluntary. Their main purpose is just to have their photo taken.

StSwithinsDay · 05/08/2024 21:14

@AvrielFinch
So ornaments really?
Thank you!

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Livingtothefull · 08/08/2024 08:49

blackcherryconserve · 05/08/2024 20:16

They do not make political statements and nor should they. Charles holds no real power in the way that your Irish President may do. If anyone should be making a statement it will be Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, when he tells us what the xxxx he is doing to quell the riots. HTH.

Charles is the Head of State, of course he should be making a statement at a time when communities are being directly threatened and people are frightened. It need not and should not be a political statement, just an appeal for unity and calm. I completely agree with other posters that the silence from him and the RF at this time is just deafening.

twopercent · 08/08/2024 08:55

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:20

I am not from the UK so I am not sure of the protocol in situations like the ongoing riots. I know that he and Camilla and the Prince and Princess of Wales issued statements following the murder of the three little girls in Southport.
Is it outside their remit to make similar statements about the riots? Would it be considered political interference?
Editing to add that I am sure the rioters won't give a flying fuck about him or what he says but can he show support for those whose livlihoods have been destroyed or who are in hotels that are being set on fire/

What are you talking about? What on earth would a well meaning old fool have of any use to say? isn't it bad enough he gets to make statements at climate change conferences when there are literally hundreds of thousands of Brits better qualified to do so who don't get asked? How would someone so far removed from normal life be qualified to comment on this?

Pedallleur · 08/08/2024 08:58

As if he would. He might write the angry mob a strongly worded letter though and suggest they would be exempt from any future honours.

Obek1999 · 08/08/2024 09:01

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:51

@Gappe
I am Irish. I am painfully aware of how you do things 'round here'.

Fuck me, you know all too well then. You made it sound like you were from another continent.

Livingtothefull · 08/08/2024 09:16

twopercent · 08/08/2024 08:55

What are you talking about? What on earth would a well meaning old fool have of any use to say? isn't it bad enough he gets to make statements at climate change conferences when there are literally hundreds of thousands of Brits better qualified to do so who don't get asked? How would someone so far removed from normal life be qualified to comment on this?

He should make a statement because, 'old fool' or not, he is currently Head of State. He should have something to say about this situation which is causing such massive distress to people, because it is the right thing to do.

twopercent · 08/08/2024 09:18

Livingtothefull · 08/08/2024 09:16

He should make a statement because, 'old fool' or not, he is currently Head of State. He should have something to say about this situation which is causing such massive distress to people, because it is the right thing to do.

He should keep well out of it. How is the most privileged man in the country saying anything going to have a calming effect on a bunch of hooligans claiming to be seriously disadvantaged.

SerendipityJane · 08/08/2024 10:03

He should make a statement because, 'old fool' or not, he is currently Head of State.

I didn't vote for him.

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Livingtothefull · 08/08/2024 10:06

twopercent · 08/08/2024 09:18

He should keep well out of it. How is the most privileged man in the country saying anything going to have a calming effect on a bunch of hooligans claiming to be seriously disadvantaged.

He should make a statement because it is his job as Head of State to be a unifying and reassuring presence. I agree that it is unlikely to affect the hooligans; but it might just deter some others from joining in and supporting them. They fancy themselves such great patriots after all.

I do agree actually that he and the RF are immensely privileged and it is debatable whether they are useful enough to justify that privilege. Well here is an opportunity for them to be of some use.

silentassassin · 08/08/2024 10:07

Appalonia · 04/08/2024 22:29

Ha I really don't think there's anything an obscenely wealthy man such as him could say that would have any positive, calming effect!

Unless he said he was going to donate a huge amount of his wealth to those deprived communities...

Exactly. What exactly would he say? its going to come across as patronising AF from some out of touch rich old man who has never lived a "normal" life like the rest of us.

moonplop · 08/08/2024 10:09

If anyone should be making a statement it will be Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, when he tells us what the xxxx he is doing to quell the riots. HTH

THIS. The PM should be saying more- its literally his job, currently all he seems to doing is squabbling with Elon Musk over twitter.

SerendipityJane · 08/08/2024 10:11

silentassassin · 08/08/2024 10:07

Exactly. What exactly would he say? its going to come across as patronising AF from some out of touch rich old man who has never lived a "normal" life like the rest of us.

Also, the Royal Family are descended from immigrants ...

Livingtothefull · 08/08/2024 10:32

I think blaming Keir Starmer for this is a bit rich given he has only just become PM and years of Tory mismanagement and neglect has led to this situation (not that it justifies the criminal behaviour at all - but it is no coincidence that most riots are occurring in more deprived parts of the country).

The Tories have presided over the last few years when the rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer. The RF are set to become even richer in the next few years, as if they are not privileged enough already. So yes it does mean that anything KC says about the situation may ring hollow - but that isn't our fault. As Head of State he should just do what his handsomely rewarded position should require of him, and provide positive leadership.

And I think KS has been pretty clear about what he is doing to deal with this. I don't think that pushing back on Elon Musk is inappropriate at all. If there are any people I despise even more than the rioters it is people like EM, Farage, Tommy Robinson (from his sun lounger in Cyprus) deliberately inflaming this situation from a safe distance.

SnapdragonToadflax · 08/08/2024 11:02

moonplop · 08/08/2024 10:09

If anyone should be making a statement it will be Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, when he tells us what the xxxx he is doing to quell the riots. HTH

THIS. The PM should be saying more- its literally his job, currently all he seems to doing is squabbling with Elon Musk over twitter.

Eh? He's made multiple statements, the last one was posted on his Twitter yesterday and I saw it on the BBC news site.

On the other hand, Musk is goading him with quite frankly dangerous inflammatory language, and all Starmer has said is that the law will be upheld if violent disorder is whipped up online. Which is fair enough, I think.

Hallamlass · 08/08/2024 11:06

Appalonia · 04/08/2024 22:29

Ha I really don't think there's anything an obscenely wealthy man such as him could say that would have any positive, calming effect!

Unless he said he was going to donate a huge amount of his wealth to those deprived communities...

How do you know he doesn't? Not everyone constantly advertises their charity work.

Hallamlass · 08/08/2024 11:07

SnapdragonToadflax · 08/08/2024 11:02

Eh? He's made multiple statements, the last one was posted on his Twitter yesterday and I saw it on the BBC news site.

On the other hand, Musk is goading him with quite frankly dangerous inflammatory language, and all Starmer has said is that the law will be upheld if violent disorder is whipped up online. Which is fair enough, I think.

This. Plus chairing Cobra etc. I'd rather a PM got on with the work that just postured.

Livingtothefull · 08/08/2024 13:09

Hallamlass · 08/08/2024 11:06

How do you know he doesn't? Not everyone constantly advertises their charity work.

Well he could start by paying income and inheritance tax like the rest of us. And refusing some of the huge increase he & his family are set to receive, and divert it towards relieving poverty. And I think he should be public about it to set an example to other super-rich. You know, leadership.