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Riots - should King Charles make a statement?

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StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:20

I am not from the UK so I am not sure of the protocol in situations like the ongoing riots. I know that he and Camilla and the Prince and Princess of Wales issued statements following the murder of the three little girls in Southport.
Is it outside their remit to make similar statements about the riots? Would it be considered political interference?
Editing to add that I am sure the rioters won't give a flying fuck about him or what he says but can he show support for those whose livlihoods have been destroyed or who are in hotels that are being set on fire/

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Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 04/08/2024 22:43

I think it would go down like a bucket of cold sick op

Werweisswohin · 04/08/2024 22:43

SleepPrettyDarling · 04/08/2024 22:41

In 1938, the German authorities didn’t make any comment on Kristallnacht either.

Not comparable.

TomatoSandwiches · 04/08/2024 22:44

I don't think the King would be the best choice, many northerners grew up disliking the Royals, especially Charles.
The best placed Royal to make a speech would be William or Anne.

Gappe · 04/08/2024 22:45

No the monarchy dont get involved in trivial shit like this.

DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby · 04/08/2024 22:46

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:32

Look as I said I'm not from the UK. To me the silence from Charles and William is deafening. I am just curious as to why they can say nothing.

If anything it would make it worse. I very much believe that (along with ignorance, blatant racism, and just general idiocy) poverty is driving factor in the riots. Hartlepool for example, is one of the most deprived towns in the uk. An obscenely wealthy man telling the to stop it is if anything, just going to rile them up.

DreamW3aver · 04/08/2024 22:47

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:39

Is the reporting where you live possbly giving the wrong impression of who widespread it is?
Well no. I am looking at the BBC, Independent, Guardian, Sky News and mumsnet! It seems fairly widespread to me. And horrific. The hotel in Rotherham which has been set on fire with people inside it. Is that not awful to you? Or are you saying that migrants in Rotherham are not that important really?

You seem to be a bit lacking in comprehension, it what way is statng the fact that riots are happening in a relatively small number of places equivalent to migrants not being important?

What a ridiculous interpretation

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:47

Gappe · Today 22:45
No the monarchy dont get involved in trivial shit like this.

So they are better placed presenting prizes at Wimbledon and opening hospitals?
Ok so.

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StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:48

An obscenely wealthy man telling the to stop it is if anything, just going to rile them up
Can he not express support for those at the receiving end? Or would that be too political?

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LittleGreenDragons · 04/08/2024 22:49

The monarchy cannot interfere in anything political (or let their feelings be known) and rioting falls under that. Anything political is for parliament and its elected members to deal with.

Anyone who is a president (or prime minister) has been elected as a political leader so they can make political statements.

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:49

You seem to be a bit lacking in comprehension,
I am not remotely lacking in comprehension - except to wonder why the Head of State or his heir can't comment.

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StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:49

@@LittleGreenDragons
Thank you. That explains it.

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EsmaCannonball · 04/08/2024 22:50

To the scumbag rioter types King Charles will already be written off as a well-meaning, ineffectual parish vicar type, talking to his plants and fuelling his car with white wine. He'd be seen as part of the problem.

If you were going to pick royals to deal with rioters you'd go for Camilla, Anne and Fergie. Camilla'd be lighting vats of boiling oil on the ramparts of Windsor with her Silk Cut.

Gappe · 04/08/2024 22:50

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:47

Gappe · Today 22:45
No the monarchy dont get involved in trivial shit like this.

So they are better placed presenting prizes at Wimbledon and opening hospitals?
Ok so.

You arent from this country so have a google of what a Constitutional Monarchy is and educate yourself rather than sniping at how we do things round here.

Werweisswohin · 04/08/2024 22:50

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:49

You seem to be a bit lacking in comprehension,
I am not remotely lacking in comprehension - except to wonder why the Head of State or his heir can't comment.

Are you reading the replies you've already had to this question?

OvaHere · 04/08/2024 22:50

I imagine they'll say something or not on the advice of the government. I doubt they'll wade in randomly. If Starmer thinks it will be useful then we'll get something.

We probably will at some point just not right now, more likely in the aftermath when things have cooled down a bit.

Last thing needed is some anti monarchy feeling added to the mix because nothing Charles or William can say will please any of the rioters.

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:51

@Gappe
I am Irish. I am painfully aware of how you do things 'round here'.

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DontCallMeKidDontCallMeBaby · 04/08/2024 22:51

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:48

An obscenely wealthy man telling the to stop it is if anything, just going to rile them up
Can he not express support for those at the receiving end? Or would that be too political?

I don’t think it’s about being political as such, but tone deaf. He could an absolutely say ‘I’m sorry your streets are being destroyed’. But he could also pay to fix it. He won’t, so anything he says is lip service.

SleepPrettyDarling · 04/08/2024 22:51

Werweisswohin · 04/08/2024 22:43

Not comparable.

Curious as to why. Ethnic businesses and places of worship are being targeted. Policing authorities are being tested. Where is the line?

Werweisswohin · 04/08/2024 22:53

SleepPrettyDarling · 04/08/2024 22:51

Curious as to why. Ethnic businesses and places of worship are being targeted. Policing authorities are being tested. Where is the line?

Lots of premises have been attacked in the riots, not just those of one religious group.

LoveRosesClimbing · 04/08/2024 22:54

It’s really the bare fucking minimum to expect ANYONE in ANY position of authority to be out there publicly condemning RACIST, ISLAMOPHOBIC RIOTS in the streets of the UK.

Be that the King, the PM, every single one of our MPs and party leaders, our employers, the local police forces, local government, you name it. They should be saying it as publicly and upfront as possible.

This is really not a ‘two sides to every story’ or ‘not wanting to get involved in political issues’ type of situation. There’s absolutely nothing democratic about these riots.

Stop calling them ‘protests’. For days now there has been dangerous and offensive rioting on the streets of many towns and cities the UK. It’s also the police being attacked at work. Whole communities being targeted and threatened. It’s disgusting.

dreadisabaddog · 04/08/2024 22:55

Nope, he's so irrelevant I can't think of much he'd say that would warrant a statement

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 04/08/2024 22:56

No.

DreamW3aver · 04/08/2024 22:56

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:51

@Gappe
I am Irish. I am painfully aware of how you do things 'round here'.

And yet you think that a president is equivalent to a monarch

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:58

Yes. Both are head of state.

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StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 22:59

Thankfully I live in a Republic where we can elect our head of state but I respect the fact that others don't.
But that is a whole other conversation that is not relevant to this one.

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