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Riots causing me (Muslim female) anxiety.

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Mavan1984 · 04/08/2024 17:44

I am a Muslim hijab wearing woman (born and brought up in this country). I have 3 kids under the age of 16 and the riots are causing me a great deal of anxiety. Me and dh had planned to take the kids out this weekend but we cancelled because we didn't think it was safe. I feel like we are better off just staying at home throughout the summer to protect ourselves and the kids.

I have had racist comments made at me before, but I don't want my kids to experience this. I feel like the rioting will empower others to be openly racist. I experienced this when 9/11 happened and I am just so scared because this time it feels a lot worse.

Me and dh were born to immigrant parents who worked very hard in menial jobs to educate us. We both have professional careers, but at this moment in time I feel like none of this matters and we are being attacked. Will it get any better? How can I protect my family?

A lot of my Muslim friends are feeling the same and it feels as though we have a very bleak future in this country.

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Beezknees · 04/08/2024 21:21

flapjackfairy · 04/08/2024 21:11

OK I will bite !
And how do you think.it feels for ordinary people and families in areas like Stoke (or Derby or Middlesborough etc ) when everytime their city is referenced in the media it is to tell them how awful the place is and that they are the lowest of the low because they live there?Take Stoke for example if that is what you want to talk about. It has had more than its fair share of asylum seekers and the city has had many initiatives to make them welcome and support them.Generally people rub along together pretty well but as regards the hotels ! well it is quite a change to suddenly have hundreds of ( mainly ) single men suddenly dumped en masse in a particular area. They tend to hang around in gangs ( understandably ) and it is intimidating to local people who are increasingly seeing their neighbourhoods changed and overun . Churches are being changed onto Mosques and the white British culture is disappearing fast in some areas so it is not about multi culturalism but about people who.have lived here for generations feeling strangers in their own communities. And as others have said they feel powerless because they are just working class scum that should just put up with it all. You see the attitude on here and all across the media time and time again.
Non of this excuses the violence of course and I detest it as well but I am.just trying to.explain why people feel.like they do.in some circumstances.

I am a white working class woman living in one of Derbyshire's most deprived areas, these rioters do NOT represent me thank you! and they need to get rid of the chips on their shoulders. I'm sick of people trying to speak for me.

Newbie8918 · 04/08/2024 21:21

I'm so sorry that you have been made to feel this way.

A lot of the rioters are mindless idiots, seizing an opportunity to cause chaos. In my area they looted a bloody mobile phone shop. A popular chain. Nothing to do with any 'cause' they pretend to be supporting.

That doesn't take anything away from what you're feeling. Love to you and your family.

Hatfullofwillow · 04/08/2024 21:22

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:11

Because it is the only way to get their voices heard. We are all talking about it.

Really? Half the British press and half our politicians have spent the last 15 years talking of little else other than immigration. We have GB news which prattles on about boat people and letting people drown in the channel. We had an MP killed by a supporter of this rhetoric.

How much of a voice do you want racists to have?

Icepearl · 04/08/2024 21:22

Mavan1984 · 04/08/2024 17:44

I am a Muslim hijab wearing woman (born and brought up in this country). I have 3 kids under the age of 16 and the riots are causing me a great deal of anxiety. Me and dh had planned to take the kids out this weekend but we cancelled because we didn't think it was safe. I feel like we are better off just staying at home throughout the summer to protect ourselves and the kids.

I have had racist comments made at me before, but I don't want my kids to experience this. I feel like the rioting will empower others to be openly racist. I experienced this when 9/11 happened and I am just so scared because this time it feels a lot worse.

Me and dh were born to immigrant parents who worked very hard in menial jobs to educate us. We both have professional careers, but at this moment in time I feel like none of this matters and we are being attacked. Will it get any better? How can I protect my family?

A lot of my Muslim friends are feeling the same and it feels as though we have a very bleak future in this country.

Have a very heartfelt Jewish hug OP. I understand how you feel. I promise you I will stick up for any Muslim I see being made to feel threatened or uncomfortable in public anywhere. I am sorry you are feeling like this.

xx

flapjackfairy · 04/08/2024 21:22

@FrothyCothy
And indeed you have totally proved my point because you.have trotted out every stereotype of the working classes in areas like Stoke. it is full of violent working class men who are beating women and girls , there are no.decent houses or hotels apparently and nobody holds down a job !

Auvergne63 · 04/08/2024 21:22

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:10

I am not defending them. I am saying that they don't want asylum seekers in their town and no one is listening to them.

So what do you expect them to do when no-one listens????

Of course you are defending their appalling behaviour. It is pretty obvious.
By the way, how do you feel about asylum seekers?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:23

Jellybeanbag · 04/08/2024 19:50

So you approve of the riots and back them fully.

Why not just say that?

No, I want the white working class people to be listened to just likes the blacks were listened to after the Brixton riots and the Asians after the Bradford riots etc.

I don't want them to be ignored and dismissed as racist because we will have the situation that they have in France and Germany where millions of people ARE racist.

RationalityIsHard · 04/08/2024 21:23

Hatfullofwillow · 04/08/2024 21:22

Really? Half the British press and half our politicians have spent the last 15 years talking of little else other than immigration. We have GB news which prattles on about boat people and letting people drown in the channel. We had an MP killed by a supporter of this rhetoric.

How much of a voice do you want racists to have?

They talk but do nothing. It's almost like they want us fighting amongst ourselves.

flapjackfairy · 04/08/2024 21:25

@Beezknees
I wasn't speaking for you! It would be pretty futile to try to speak for someone I don't know

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:26

Overtheatlantic · 04/08/2024 20:20

Why don’t they want them?

It doesn't matter why. They don't want them and they should be listened to. You can have them all where you live.

BelleHathor · 04/08/2024 21:27

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The Blacks?

Fullyflavoured · 04/08/2024 21:28

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:23

No, I want the white working class people to be listened to just likes the blacks were listened to after the Brixton riots and the Asians after the Bradford riots etc.

I don't want them to be ignored and dismissed as racist because we will have the situation that they have in France and Germany where millions of people ARE racist.

They are racist though. I think swaggering about with Nazi tattoos makes them racist. And I'm a WC woman living in a very diverse area and those rioting and looting idiots don't speak for me.Nor will they make anyone listen.Quite the opposite in fact.

Auvergne63 · 04/08/2024 21:28

BelleHathor · 04/08/2024 21:27

The Blacks?

Indeed. I think the mask is slipping.

Beezknees · 04/08/2024 21:29

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:23

No, I want the white working class people to be listened to just likes the blacks were listened to after the Brixton riots and the Asians after the Bradford riots etc.

I don't want them to be ignored and dismissed as racist because we will have the situation that they have in France and Germany where millions of people ARE racist.

White working class woman here and I don't want to listen to a thing those vile people have to say. Stop lumping us all together.

LadyKenya · 04/08/2024 21:30

Auvergne63 · 04/08/2024 21:28

Indeed. I think the mask is slipping.

This. It is obvious.

Fullyflavoured · 04/08/2024 21:30

Auvergne63 · 04/08/2024 21:28

Indeed. I think the mask is slipping.

If it looks like a racist...

Hoppinggreen · 04/08/2024 21:31

Auvergne63 · 04/08/2024 21:28

Indeed. I think the mask is slipping.

Yep.
I actually reported it but in one way I hope it stays at least for a bit to show peopel what is actually happening here

Fullyflavoured · 04/08/2024 21:31

No point reporting though.MNHQ seem happy enough to host racists on their site.

Deder1212 · 04/08/2024 21:31

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Snapplepie · 04/08/2024 21:32

I know OP, it is frightening and a bit of caution is probably sensible. I have found the ratio of counter-protestors to far right rioters reassuring but last night I had the first nightmare I have had in years. I dreamed that I was trying to keep my children safe during a riot and it was awful. I haven't been able to shake the feeling all day. So I guess on some level I am feeling the fear too.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/08/2024 21:33

FrothyCothy · 04/08/2024 21:09

But we do 🤷‍♀️ every local authority in the country has taken in asylum seekers

No, you can have them all. You want them, you have them.

It's funny how the Democrat states in the US changed their tune when the Republican states on the South American border started shipping their asylum seekers to the Democrat states.

caringcarer · 04/08/2024 21:33

Hoppinggreen · 04/08/2024 21:06

Oh give over

Why is it so unbelievable if Muslins are being aggressive? People of any race, nationality or gender can become aggressive.

LightDrizzle · 04/08/2024 21:34

I’m not surprised you feel this way, I would too I’ve no doubt, and the problem is that nobody can promise you your fears are groundless as just now, violent racists are having their hour of misrule where they feel free to indulge in hateful behaviour. I’m so sorry and while it doesn’t reflect the majority, it is a sad and frightening situation.

Hopefully it will pass but we will never forget that they are there.

pikkumyy77 · 04/08/2024 21:35

Really sorry you and your community are going through this. Just a horrible thing to experience. I hope the violence comes to an end soon and the perpetrators serve time in prison for these terroristic acts of political violence.

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