Angela Rayner and building more houses.

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I believe she's going to make a statement today or soon, about plans for house-building.

What would you like her to take into consideration as she makes these plans and implements them?

Would you send her an e-mail to say what you think about it all?

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I agree but i would support restricting property purchases to people with ILR, OR citizenship, OR some other legal basis for permenant status (the Brexit arrangements that I can't remember the name of, for example).

It would be easy to implement. You'd just bolt something very similar to "right to work" checks onto the conveyancing process.

What’s Greggs has to do with it?

Someone I know voted labour and was all for the house building but when they built houses on the field next to his house he was fuming and rejected it 😂

This country should be ashamed of its housing stock Fucking ashamed

Any therapists out there ? because this thread will be a treat for you!! I'm convinced some people have gone off their rocker in what now appears to be a ginormous race to the bottom. There also appears to be a lot of intolerance towards anyone older (single or couple) daring to want to live in more than one room - be that in social housing or private sector rental or even 'owned' homes.

My 85 year old FIL is downsizing from his big 3 bed detached chalet bungalow- but is moving to our area which isn't cheap- ( about the same as his area if not a bit more) - if we look at 2 bed flats or 2 bed bungalows he feels they are all tiny - he wants at least 1000 sg ft, plus garden (doesn't have to be huge) and garage and shed. Now this may be totally illogical - but it's his cash and that's how he feels- and I suspect he's not on his own-

Someone who works full time should be able to afford their own home and privacy I suppose i should have left Greggs out of it and just put that she works full time I do suspect though that if i put that she worked full time in London or for a bank i wouldnt have got
Whats London got to do with it Or whats a bank got to do with it.

@Crikeyalmighty yes ive noticed that its extended to other groups

Why is that so controversial?

St Jacinda banned foreigners buying property in NZ, and I bet she was the darling of Mumsnet during her tenure.

How do you know she works full time?

@JenniferBooth

I think mold and damp etc is a disgrace.

However in ye not so distant past, family's starting out actually started at the bottom!
Ie parents front room or in bedsit. We don't hear about bedsit anymore do we?
That's what people had and did and people started with nothing.
They didn't have the basics and built up slowly bit by bit.
We've come to point where people move in together and have it all instantly! Most wedding lists don't include house hold items anymore.

I think family homes should be for families

Nope, they are for whoever can afford to buy or rent them.

We've come to point where people move in together and have it all instantly!*

Some people. Not most people.

Most wedding lists don't include house hold items anymore.

That's because people don't marry in their 20s from their parents' home any more. They marry later and usually have a full complement of household goods by then.

sigh Ok sit back and i will explain it in the simplest way possible

1. Once upon a time one day i went into Greggs for a sausage roll.
2. This young woman served me and said "Oh you live opposite me Ive seen you" Me "oh no you have seen me visit my parents" I live on the ** estate. You must live at no 2 *** Close across the road
3. Then she said Yes i share it with others. I work full time here to cover the rent.
4. I know it used to be a family home because ive been in it back in the 80s when i babysat for the kids of the family that live there. My parents still live in my childhood home.
5. Is that clear enough?

*Lived there

Housing is ridiculous in this country. DP and I are currently renting a one bed flat with no outdoor space- as a PP would have us do, because we are “not a family”.

The flat is ridiculously designed, small, poky, not enough storage, not enough space for a couple.

So were soon moving to a three bed house with a garden because fuck this flat. I don’t care about families, I want comfort for myself and I deserve it.

Exactly. I live in a 3-bed by myself. It was on the market for ages and a few sales fell through. The precious families had their chance and I refuse to feel guilty about what I spend my own money on!

Good for you! You shouldn’t feel bad. If there’s not enough “family” housing to go around then that’s sad but it doesn’t mean you have to live in a tiny sweatbox as a consequence. Enjoy your home!

The precious families had their chance

I don't care about families

@Melania90 @fitzwilliamdarcy

You're perfectly within your rights to have whatever housing you want. Singletons and couples are as deserving of space, comfort and hobbies as everyone else. But why all this nastiness about families? This tribalism is really unnecessary.

I don't blame you, we'd do the same if we could afford it. To be fair we quite like our flat, it's in a nice area, we've got good neighbours and have a reasonable sized garden. It's just not big enough for the two of us!

Because I don’t care, plain and simple. Families keep barking and yowling that childfree couples should give up nice homes for them all the time.

Nnnnnnope.

Yeah, this is our second Summer in this flat. No garden whatsoever. Utterly miserable in nice weather, and we don’t drink, so don’t go to beer gardens either - would rather have private outdoor space to relax in!

But why all this nastiness about families?

It’s pretty obviously in response to the poster who keeps saying that single or childless people should leave family homes for families. I’d say that’s nastier than a sarcastic reference, personally.

Well why be nasty about all families because of one poster? What you're saying about housing is perfectly reasonable, but then you make yourself sound totally unreasonable with the snide remarks.

I genuinely don't understand.

I think we basically need to build new towns and villages, not just houses.

This is true, I was born when my parents were in a bedsit, they ended up in a 4 bed detached house.

However people aren’t coupling up young anymore, saving up by yourself is extremely hard now.