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Angela Rayner and building more houses.

233 replies

upinaballoon · 30/07/2024 12:10

I believe she's going to make a statement today or soon, about plans for house-building.

What would you like her to take into consideration as she makes these plans and implements them?

Would you send her an e-mail to say what you think about it all?

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DancelikeFredAstaire · 30/07/2024 18:25

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:08

They need to be stricter on social housing being a temporary abode not a home for life. Once your kids are out of the family home you're out and on the list for a one bed flat. Don't like it? Go to the private sector.

Only if those flats have private balconies or terraces. Why should my access to the outdoors be restricted just because I'm old? The heck am I going to go up and down stairs/lift just to sit outside when I can just step out of my back door. Or should being sat outside with a coffee or glass of something only be the preserve of the young/home owners?

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:27

No i didnt THIS is what i said

And FFS Build homes for the climate we have now not the climate we had in 1965 I live in a Sanctuary sweat box one bedroom flat. I cant unload the washing machine without sweating my guts out. If animals were transported in the temperatures flats get up to there would be prosecutions. We need cooler homes.

And adjust housing policy Why should the childless/child free be expected to live like this and be treated like battery hens just because we havent reproduced.

Where did i say families shouldnt be in family homes I said people should not have to live in tiny sweatboxes just because they dont have living proof they have had sex without contraception I didnt say families shouldnt have family homes I said the child free should have something better than tiny sweat box flats So dont gaslight

banoffeeee · 30/07/2024 18:27

Don’t email Angela or Keir unless they’re actually your MP.

Its better if you find your own MP and write to them with whatever you want to tell Angela or Keir.

HuongVuong3 · 30/07/2024 18:28

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:15

For someone who clearly hates children and families you spend a lot of time on a parenting website.

Wanting a garden and more than 1 bedroom does not mean someone hates children and families.

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:28

DancelikeFredAstaire · 30/07/2024 18:25

Only if those flats have private balconies or terraces. Why should my access to the outdoors be restricted just because I'm old? The heck am I going to go up and down stairs/lift just to sit outside when I can just step out of my back door. Or should being sat outside with a coffee or glass of something only be the preserve of the young/home owners?

Have you seen the thread about prisoners. They are better thought of on here than social housing tenants or older people

HuongVuong3 · 30/07/2024 18:29

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:28

Have you seen the thread about prisoners. They are better thought of on here than social housing tenants or older people

Or childfree people.

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:29

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:28

Have you seen the thread about prisoners. They are better thought of on here than social housing tenants or older people

Oh give over. Why is wanting a family home to go to a family a bad thing? Your posts just reek of entitlement.

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:29

HuongVuong3 · 30/07/2024 18:29

Or childfree people.

Yep

Ihateslugs · 30/07/2024 18:29

Brendabigbaps · 30/07/2024 12:18

Please make sure they also build sufficient infrastructure around the houses.
developers currently parcel up the land between each other so they don’t build enough on their own to force them to build schools, gps etc

Agree with this as currently living in an area with massive new housing sites with very little extra infrastructure.

The nearest one to my village, on an old airfield, was around 950 new houses, mainly 4/5 bed detached as far as I can see. There is a new pub and a very over subscribed primary school but I don’t think there are shops, doctors or community rooms etc. Now there are plans to start phase 2 with another 400 odd houses but no mention of additional infrastructure.

As a result, local doctors are over stretched and local primary schools have temporary buildings to accommodate those who do not get in the new school. The social life in our village is affected as most of the community rooms ( church halls, sports clubs, British Legion, Working men’s Club, village hall etc) are fully booked for groups day and night.

The current news is that the nearest hospital, currently in poor over crowded accommodation, is likely to not get the promised finance for a rebuild that had been planned for many years and was included in the last government bill.

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:30

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:27

No i didnt THIS is what i said

And FFS Build homes for the climate we have now not the climate we had in 1965 I live in a Sanctuary sweat box one bedroom flat. I cant unload the washing machine without sweating my guts out. If animals were transported in the temperatures flats get up to there would be prosecutions. We need cooler homes.

And adjust housing policy Why should the childless/child free be expected to live like this and be treated like battery hens just because we havent reproduced.

Where did i say families shouldnt be in family homes I said people should not have to live in tiny sweatboxes just because they dont have living proof they have had sex without contraception I didnt say families shouldnt have family homes I said the child free should have something better than tiny sweat box flats So dont gaslight

And once more with feeling @Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer

LiterallyOnFire · 30/07/2024 18:31

Only if those flats have private balconies or terraces. Why should my access to the outdoors be restricted just because I'm old? The heck am I going to go up and down stairs/lift just to sit outside when I can just step out of my back door. Or should being sat outside with a coffee or glass of something only be the preserve of the young/home owners?

Do you remember the neo-workhouse thing that was proposed a few years ago? That's what the right wing want. It would be the next step once security of tenure was gone.

I was saying on another thread earlier how endebted we all are to the low paid, who do essential jobs for insufficient pay, and keep the country running. The least we can give them is a home for life. If there's a shortage of homes, build more.

ginasevern · 30/07/2024 18:31

Billyballyboo · 30/07/2024 12:16

No right to buy. Build council housing. Uk passport holders prioritised over immigrants. No building on green field, develop brown field sites. Take into consideration infrastructure as it's not just housing, it's doctors, roads, schools etc.

I agree with all of this. Regarding the immigrant situation - I live in a council flat on a large council estate. There have always been immigrant families on our estate (which is fine and we've had a good community vibe) but over the last 5 years there has been a seriously huge increase which I believe is a cause for concern regarding housing shortages. I live in a culdesac of around 20 house style flats, 15 of which have now been allocated to immigrants. If you don't live in council housing or a "deprived" area you really don't realise the impact this is having.

Haroldwilson · 30/07/2024 18:31

Mix smaller bungalow type homes in with the 2-3 beds. Lots of older people want to downsize but can't find the right properties.

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:31

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:30

And once more with feeling @Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer

That one bedroom flat you're in, you do realise there are families crammed into them too don't you? Families who have a higher need than you do to be in a multi-bedroomed property with outside space. You have a home that meets your needs, it's a roof with a room to call your own.

BlackForestCake · 30/07/2024 18:32

Rummly · 30/07/2024 14:25

That’s not an attractive proposition: please come and live here, but no car.

I'd happily go and live somewhere I wasn't constantly threatened by cars. Other countries have car-free neighbourhoods, why can't we?

Lifelover16 · 30/07/2024 18:33

I have emailed to suggest solar panels and ground source heat pumps to be a requirement on all new homes.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 30/07/2024 18:33

@Okayornot It’s killing rural communities. Young people can’t afford to stay because nowhere round here pays enough for them to afford to either rent or buy and a lot of the social
housing was brought under right to buy. We have a huge amount of housing stock laying empty because it’s been bought as investments/ lets.

I think it should be heavily taxed/ banned.

GingerLiberalFeminist · 30/07/2024 18:37

The problem is that building lots of houses isn't bringing down house prices. In the SE our small town has grown by 5,000 new homes in the last year and new build still go for £100k more than older homes, plus they are all 4-5 beds which first time buyers can't afford. So landlords buy them and let them at. £2000 a month.

The developers keep putting prices up (they know help to buy gives first time buyers up to 25% extra so they add that to the asking Price. Buy to let mortgages allow bigger loads so when they dont sell, landlords scoop in.

Result is higher rental prices keeping sale prices high and people priced out of buying by high rest. And so it goes on.

LiterallyOnFire · 30/07/2024 18:37

Oh give over. Why is wanting a family home to go to a family a bad thing? Your posts just reek of entitlement.

They have been tenanted by families. It's not up to you to decide they should be booted out when their family reaches a certain stage.

Tenants have boomerang adult children, same as we all do. Council tenants are unlikely to be handing out house Deianira to their young adult DC, so flying the best for somewhere secure is even harder. They might need a home office (WFH is great for keeping mothers and disabled people in work), so what's the problem with a spare room?

Weirdly, tenants who swap tenancies are often allowed a spare room from the start, but the second a child moves out and leaves a spare room behind that might be very useful to the people who have cared for the home for twenty years, the mob are baying for eviction. It's not the basis on which social housing has ever been run.

Why are you turning on tenants? Why not just advocate for a huge expansion in new council house construction?

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:38

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:31

That one bedroom flat you're in, you do realise there are families crammed into them too don't you? Families who have a higher need than you do to be in a multi-bedroomed property with outside space. You have a home that meets your needs, it's a roof with a room to call your own.

I live with my 74 year old DH who has COPD ischemic heart disease and arthritis And because he has spasms and kicks me in the back we have to sleep seperately so he is in the living room. He uses a mobility scooter because he can only walk a few steps Having children is a choice Disability isnt

JenniferBooth · 30/07/2024 18:40

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:31

That one bedroom flat you're in, you do realise there are families crammed into them too don't you? Families who have a higher need than you do to be in a multi-bedroomed property with outside space. You have a home that meets your needs, it's a roof with a room to call your own.

A room to call my own? Hah Thats not what you were saying about tenants earlier

LiterallyOnFire · 30/07/2024 18:42

That one bedroom flat you're in, you do realise there are families crammed into them too don't you? Families who have a higher need than you do to be in a multi-bedroomed property with outside space. You have a home that meets your needs, it's a roof with a room to call your own.

That's all the more reason to build better quality housing and more if it, isn't it?

Why this race to the bottom?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 30/07/2024 18:47

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:29

Oh give over. Why is wanting a family home to go to a family a bad thing? Your posts just reek of entitlement.

Is it just social housing you're bothered about or do you want anyone with more bedrooms than they need (in your opinion) to downsize?

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:48

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 30/07/2024 18:47

Is it just social housing you're bothered about or do you want anyone with more bedrooms than they need (in your opinion) to downsize?

I think family homes should be for families

Rummly · 30/07/2024 18:49

JoyousPinkPeer · 30/07/2024 18:21

They are not going to get rid of buy to let. The government currently pay Serco to rent hundreds of thousands of houses on a long term basis to house asylum seekers. The government, via Sercp, are the largest renters of houses by far. Part of the reason there are so few rental properties available to UK citizens.

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But they’re going to “smash the gangs” and “process” all applicants super-fast. So all’s good. 👍

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