6yo girl missing in London, Greenwich - has now been found (updated by MNHQ)

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From the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce58e7mjlxko

Mumsnet seems to have quite a large London population I thought it couldn’t hurt to spread the word. I can’t even imagine how scared a 6 year old would be out alone all night.

"So the likelihood of me wondering if I should ask a lone child on one if they’re ok is not that likely."

So what on earth was your "extremely gentle" post about then? Completely irrelevant 🙄

You’re being ridiculous. Why this roasting? I was brought up on a council estate, there happens to be no reason for me to go and seek one out so I can walk through it.

I couldn’t afford to live in Tunbridge Wells.

Jesus Christ some of you are just … I was lost as a five yr old so I said that I am not someone who is reluctant to approach a child who might be alone or distressed (as I have done twice) but that I’m careful to approach gently. If that gets up people’s craw then fill your boots.

@willWillSmithsmith are you saying you don't have a single friend or family member who lives on an estate? Nowhere you'd visit ever?

Whether she does or doesn't, making out that the passers by we're at fault for not approaching "gently gently" like she would then later admitting she'd never be there in the first place was ridiculous

It was the overuse of the "gently" that was slightly funny. More so when you suddenly made yourself sound rarified by saying you never went to the kind of place under discussion anyway.

I'm sorry. I'll try to behave now.

No. Not anymore. I did have a school mum friend who did (they bought their council house) and they moved. It was by the primary my kids used but behind it so I’d only walk through it to visit her. My siblings all own their own houses now (with mortgages) and my parents bought their council house back in the 80s at the height of Thatcher’s right to buy (now people can see that without replacing them it’s contributed to the current housing crisis but my parents weren’t to know). They eventually retired and bought a little bungalow by the sea (both passed now). My best friend lived on the same estate (still my best friend) but she married and moved into a private maisonette (she now lives in a detached house). I also had a friend who lived in one of the council blocks in the Elephant & Castle that I went to but she’s long married and moved away to Essex (again, bought their own house).

That’s just how it goes, zero snobbery about estates, I just don’t know anyone who lives on one for me to be on one. I guess it’s down to historical social mobility which, if married, was more doable back then.

Concious this is getting off topic so I don’t want to do that. Just very relieved the little girl is ok.

She’s been found!’n

Respectfully, I said ‘I’m never’ not I’d never been’. You responded to my initial post in what I perceived to be a mocking way (putting the gently in quotation marks and now saying you found the word gently funny?).

I was trying to say I relate to the fear a child might feel as I was five when I got lost. There is nothing wrong with saying I’d gently approach a distressed child.

Erm.... "said that you never went to the kind of place under discussion anyway." conveys an identical meaning to your construction. If I was referring to you having never been to an x I'd say "that you'd never been to the kind...."

Zzzz

She's been found - safe

And you wonder why people are finding you faintly ridiculous?

The circumstances of poor Jay Slater's disappearance were somewhat different to a parent leaving an underage child unattended through neglect.

No I don't believe a poor WC mother (especially a poc) who neglected a child through social hardship or irresponsibility would receive funding and positive press in the same way a person who is MC professional and lives in suburbia would, as illustrated poignantly by the difference in the way the McCann's were treated by the entire media. They even received millions in additional funding to reinvestigate her disappearance for years.

There was a heartbreaking story of a young black single mum of triplets with little support from the father who unwisely popped to the shops to get some essentials rather than get all three ready and take them along. The Xmas tree caught fire and they died. I will NEVER forget the cruel comments or the fact she was sectioned and then yet then still convicted in court. Not one shred of sympathy anywhere except by a few.

Massive difference in judgement.

"There was a heartbreaking story of a young black single mum of triplets with little support from the father who unwisely popped to the shops to get some essentials rather than get all three ready and take them along. The Xmas tree caught fire and they died. I will NEVER forget the cruel comments or the fact she was sectioned and then yet then still convicted in court. Not one shred of sympathy anywhere except by a few."

That was a horrible situation. However, you've misremembered several important facts here. Including one child that died, there were 4 of them, they weren't triplets. It also wasn't a Christmas tree. She went to a big sainsburys a good walk away. Not what I call "popping to the shop". I don't know about the father either.

I remember thinking what the actual fuck about the McCanns and their mates at the time it was happening. Unbelievable to leave your kids like that abroad.

I think you're right about the racist elements involved, I just don't subscribe to KH and her views and she contradicts herself daily.

2 sets of twins aged 3 and 4 - all died, mum is currently on trial for manslaughter

The McCanns were absolutely vilified

Thanks for the clarifications. I certainly don't subscribe to KH views either. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

This single mother of 4 children close in age is being charged - as if she hasn't suffered the ultimate price - for manslaughter.

The McCann's were never charged with neglect (I do not believe they ought to be either, having suffered the ultimate, but the double standard is interesting) and I find their neglect more willful than the former case, as they had better education, ample funds, could have easily afforded a nanny or au pair and they left their children for leisure, not to get necessities and not in their home, but a different country altogether. They raised millions, wrote a book and were accorded extra police services. KH is right about the double standard due to class.

Why would they have been charged by UK police for a potential crime in a different country? Where, incidentally, the police treated them horribly. I don't understand your point.

The last two accountants I worked with both lived in Thamesmead.

It’s hard to imagine that either were a menace to their community but who knows what went on when they took off their work clothes.

Although come to think of it it is an area where you might need to be cautious. We were doing a community festival and our technician was tethering a pontoon in the lake, and he got bitten on the leg by a pike.

Alone.

@DysonSphere This single mother of 4 children close in age is being charged - as if she hasn't suffered the ultimate price - for manslaughter.

Of course she should be charged. She left 4 extremely young children alone for at least 2 hours that we know. The court date hasn’t happened yet so we don’t know when she claims to have left or what backs this up but fire fighters were called at 7pm and neighbours stated that she didn’t return until sometime between 8:30 and 9pm.
Not exactly nipping to the corner shop to get essentials was it?
Whether she will or should be charged with manslaughter is for the trail to decide but at a minimum it’s child neglect.

She has been found!
Safe and sound

2 and a half days ago!