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Thread 3 Starmer: Digging has started, bigger shovel required

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DuncinToffee · 26/07/2024 22:45

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Apolloneuro · 31/07/2024 22:05

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 22:00

I adore Murray so I hope so!

He’s a WARRIOR

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2024 22:05

@HannibalHeyes as I've said on Twitter tonight to the usual roided up Reform meatheads - you explain to me how this wouldn't have happened under Farage- the murderer was UK born and has lived here all his life. You explain to me given the fact Farage has no proper 'team' and the country clearly has limited cash how he was going to give £20k personal allowances? Reform was the politics of fantasy - it was no different to playing a game of fantasy football- these thugs hate foreigners or non whites of any kind and Farage does too and makes it clear (apart from the very rich ones who fund him of course- he's ok with those)

Evenstar · 31/07/2024 22:25

Badenoch tried to use public money to pay for her holiday flight https://x.com/pippacrerar/status/1818734191023911185?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

RafaistheKingofClay · 31/07/2024 22:55

I’m equally happy if it opens a door for Murray.

absquatulize · 31/07/2024 22:55

RafaistheKingofClay · 31/07/2024 21:51

Bloody hell that riot thread is going downhill fast. Apologies if this is a post about another thread (you can just delete this post HQ)
<waves to lurkers>

I was pleasantly surprised at the small number of posters supporting thugs, with very many telling them what they were.

RafaistheKingofClay · 31/07/2024 22:58

It seems to have stopped accepting new messages since I last checked. Some people certainly feel emboldened to express their views right now.
Might not stick my head out of this thread again for a while.

Zonder · 31/07/2024 23:02

Stay safe in here with us @RafaistheKingofClay

IClaudine · 31/07/2024 23:21

Hiding here too. That thread was vile and I only read some of it. Some really concerning posters.

ilovesooty · 01/08/2024 00:10

Evenstar · 31/07/2024 22:25

Badenoch tried to use public money to pay for her holiday flight https://x.com/pippacrerar/status/1818734191023911185?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

The sainted Kemi has no shame or sense of decency.

Piggywaspushed · 01/08/2024 06:40

Did the Germany thread disappear over night? Thank God if so. It was actually freaking me out.

Piggywaspushed · 01/08/2024 06:47

Oh, no. As you were!

DrRiverSong · 01/08/2024 06:58

I’m also getting very fed up of people who “don’t understand how defence barristers can sleep at night”. There seems to be a lot of that around the Huw Edwards threads.

It really is a symptom of some people not having the capacity to see the world from another position and them being stuck seeing it from their focus only.

absquatulize · 01/08/2024 07:50

DrRiverSong · 01/08/2024 06:58

I’m also getting very fed up of people who “don’t understand how defence barristers can sleep at night”. There seems to be a lot of that around the Huw Edwards threads.

It really is a symptom of some people not having the capacity to see the world from another position and them being stuck seeing it from their focus only.

And if they said defence lawyers, therefore including solicitors I would be bound to point out that when drunken thugs get arrested at night, and want to speak to a solicitor, then whoever is on the roster gets called and goes out to represent them even if they have been throwing bricks at the police.

DrRiverSong · 01/08/2024 08:27

Too right! They’d also be the first to complain if they or a family member were accused of something and they weren’t looked after properly!

itsgettingweird · 01/08/2024 08:34

absquatulize · 31/07/2024 21:26

There is a 25 year old boxer, representing the refugee team, who has lived in Bolton since she was 10.
How stupid does the UK look, not having given her citizenship yet?

I saw that.

Refugee from Cameroon. Been here 15 hrs. Junior boxing wanted to pick her up for Team GB. But after 15 years in the country she still doesn't have a British passport.

Can't return to Cameroon for safety as she's homosexual.

I've never been so proud as anyone watching her yesterday. But what really pisses me off is suddenly she'll get a passport because they'll decide the uk want her.

A truly inspirational woman. Who should have been given a chance long before this.

Evenstar · 01/08/2024 09:22

I think this will follow that idiot for the rest of his life!

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ghostyslovesheets · 01/08/2024 09:44

I’m depressed today - I’m just sad - I’m under no illusion that the far right had disappeared but the last two days have just made me cry - imagine how none white people feel right now - especially in those communities. My heart is just heavy

Here’s my twatty bird killer

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bombastix · 01/08/2024 10:47

They never went away. What the solution is vastly more complex in terms of improving living standards when they absolutely shrivel to nothing and also looking at building in some elements into schooling and institutions about religious expression. If that doesn’t happen then you will get extremism growing on another basis.

Saucery · 01/08/2024 10:51

We didn’t see much diversity in my little village in the 1970s and the people who weren’t White British were very much part of the community. Not much racism either, although my parents would have made sure we weren’t exposed to it and I wouldn’t have noticed microaggressions anyway. Did work in factories in my teens where there was a large Asian workforce (mainly female) and began to notice it then (put down to “banter” of course Hmm), then much more doing bar work.
DH, from Greater London, was much more aware of it. Had friends attacked during NF rallies for protesting. There was one school friend of his who was apparently a lovely little boy, who turned into the most racist scum imaginable and I had the misfortune to witness that. We never met up with him again.

I won’t say I’m ashamed to be British, because there’s a lot to love about my multicultural city and no EDL wankers are going to make me apologise for anything. I will say they don’t represent me, the Neanderthal twats, whether they are throwing bricks torn from garden walls or smarming in a suit on the BBC.

Saucery · 01/08/2024 10:55

bombastix · 01/08/2024 10:47

They never went away. What the solution is vastly more complex in terms of improving living standards when they absolutely shrivel to nothing and also looking at building in some elements into schooling and institutions about religious expression. If that doesn’t happen then you will get extremism growing on another basis.

We do loads of work on this and not just via PSHE. We try to embed diversity into every part of the curriculum, even Maths! Yet still I had a child cheer for Farage when I was delivering a lesson on Citizenship. 9 years old, so he’s getting that from home Angry.

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 10:59

@Saucery i once had a Foundation Stage boy make a g*n gesture with his hand, at a black person on the TV. Reported that to the Prevent person, straight away!

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 11:02

Today, I’m thinking about the man in the office next door, who ran in to try to disarm the attacker and ended up hurt himself. His beautiful face was on the news yesterday.

Heroes - all of the people who tried to help.

RobinStrike · 01/08/2024 11:05

The last few days have been too depressing. I'm not far from Southport and it's still hard to believe all this happened here. The BBC and other media need to stop giving Farage airtime. After all the optimism after the election I feel everything becoming mired down in this misery.

IClaudine · 01/08/2024 11:18

RobinStrike · 01/08/2024 11:05

The last few days have been too depressing. I'm not far from Southport and it's still hard to believe all this happened here. The BBC and other media need to stop giving Farage airtime. After all the optimism after the election I feel everything becoming mired down in this misery.

It is hard to believe it was only four weeks ago that we were celebrating.

bombastix · 01/08/2024 11:20

@Saucery - that sounds horrible. I am gloomier about the idea you can eliminate racism. I don’t think so. You can only shrink it down so that it is very small. I think we should aim to not have it in the UK.

I think there is a lot of naivety about the UK. If you had recently come to the UK, say in the last 25 years, you might have assumed this white English racism did not exist. But actually the issues about extremism and terrorism did show a growing far right as well as Islamic extremism. That goes back a decade at least. It is not much discussed (until perhaps now).