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Have any conspiracy theories ever been proven true?

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Newsenmum · 24/07/2024 22:46

Does anyone know if any past ones have? What have some past ones been? I only know the more recent ones

also quite fancied a CT thread 😳

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timenowplease · 26/07/2024 15:36

Barbadossunset · 26/07/2024 15:23

That's hilarious. That quote at the end from Peter Daszak, 'another scientist'!
What an absolute scandal.
@timenowplease

I agree. Did these scientists who misled everyone ever face any consequences?
Is WHO still taken seriously? I’m not sure if they were in the pay of China or just terrified of them - though I think someone high up in WHO had a connection with the Chinese government.

Of course no one has faced any consequences. That would need to be something like the Nuremberg trials.

I mean, no one even knows who they are or the part they played, or how complicit the WHO was, and still is. Did you know about the WHOs Pandemic Treaty? It will put them in charge of the responses to any future pandemic in the countries who've signed up.

Why hasn't all of this been covered by the mainstream media? It is the story of century.

Grandmasswagbag · 26/07/2024 15:43

I just don't understand why people think the VACCINES are definitely to blame for excessive deaths. I'm not denying they cause issues but I can say as someone who was really very fit and healthy that repeated COVID infections have basically f*ed my health. My husband is the same. And I wasn't even very ill with it. When I think back to how I felt before COVID Vs now it's plain to me. The big conspiracy is that we've all been made to 'live' with a virus that has wide ranging negative consequences for our health both mental and physical, whilst essentially pretending it's harmless to most people who get it. I'm convinced it's one of the reasons for spiralling numbers of people believing they have ADHD. I essentially 'have ADHD' now as does DH. Except we don't. COVID has completely screwed up our brain function so that we both now exhibit the vast majority of ADHD symptoms on a daily basis. Also lots of physical long lasting effects of COVID that I don't think people are aware of. It makes me so angry to think about it as we all know it was most likely leaked from a careless, shitty lab that shouldn't have been messing with these viruses in the first place !

timenowplease · 26/07/2024 16:07

Grandmasswagbag · 26/07/2024 15:46

I'm sorry you and your DH are ill but how do you know it was from Covid and not the vaccine?

And unfortunately I'd take any 'scientific paper' published in a mainstream journal with a huge grain of salt. They've not covered themselves with glory these past few years.

I've not read through the article but do you know if the subjects were vaccinated or unvaccinated?

Grandmasswagbag · 26/07/2024 16:13

We know it was COVID because we both had the 1st infection before any vaccines. DH took about 2 years to recover. He actually felt great after the 1st vaccine and it seemed to reverse the effects of long COVID for a short while. We had the 3 vacs were entitled too but haven't had one for a year or more now I think. Have had another COVID infection and not long ago and can feel the effects yet again. Taking us back to where we were before after a long road of alight recovery! Know of loads of people in similar situations.

BustingBaoBun · 26/07/2024 16:46

Grandmasswagbag · 26/07/2024 16:13

We know it was COVID because we both had the 1st infection before any vaccines. DH took about 2 years to recover. He actually felt great after the 1st vaccine and it seemed to reverse the effects of long COVID for a short while. We had the 3 vacs were entitled too but haven't had one for a year or more now I think. Have had another COVID infection and not long ago and can feel the effects yet again. Taking us back to where we were before after a long road of alight recovery! Know of loads of people in similar situations.

I am not immuno compromised nor old enough for a booster (age 75 is eligible, a few years to go!).

I paid for a booster and had it 3 days ago. I did this because although I have had covid twice I have been quite lucky with symptoms and I don't want to have it a third time and get long covid

Let me k ow if you want more details.

CopperNanoTubes · 26/07/2024 17:33

BarHumbugs · 26/07/2024 13:30

No, the power comes from burning the coal. The fuel is the coal and oxygen. A petrol car works in a similar way with the combustion gases pushing the pistons, that's why it's called an internal combustion engine, would you also say a car not fuelled by petrol/diesel?

No. A steam engine is an external combustion engine. The burning coal heats water in a boiler above the fire, the steam makes the engine work.

Debbie73 · 26/07/2024 17:53

Yep , the covid vax causing excess deaths .

Straycats · 26/07/2024 18:04

AShortName · 24/07/2024 23:40

The Covid vaccine is linked to heart problems.

Agree, my twenty three year old had a heart attack after his second jab.

Cornettoninja · 26/07/2024 18:05

Clocloxx · 26/07/2024 13:23

Yes they have admitted that. Along with the covid jabs only does harm to your body if you have taken it. Maybe not now but it will cause cancer in the long run 😢

Sorry but that’s a ridiculous statement to make.

Cancer in the long run? What kind of cancer and how is the link between cancer and a vaccine (I presume you mean a specific one - there were about three distributed widely in the UK alone) going to be established after a long period of time with other widespread factors that need to be factored in and ruled out as causes.

also how has someone established that it will cause cancer years down the road? Are we already years down the road?

Shudahaddogs · 26/07/2024 18:12

delilabell · 24/07/2024 22:59

These were on another thread (I don't know how accurate they are but the syphilis one from above is mentioned.
14 conspiracy theories that have been proven to be true:

  1. The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment - 1932 to 1972
  2. Project MKUltra - 1953 to 1973
  3. Operation Northwoods - 1962
  4. The Iran-Contra Affair - 1985 to 1987
  5. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident - 1964
  6. The Watergate Scandal - 1972 to 1974
  7. COINTELPRO - 1956 to 1971
  8. Operation Mockingbird - 1948 to the early 1970s
  9. The Pentagon Papers - Published in 1971
  10. The Business Plot - 1933
  11. Operation Paperclip - 1945 to 1959
  12. The Dreyfus Affair - 1894 to 1906
  13. The Manhattan Project - 1939 to 1946
  14. Operation Snow White - 1973 to 1979

I love a girl with receipts x

itwillnotopen · 26/07/2024 18:15

@AShortName

I agree! I know of a few people who have had heart attacks and other related issues since having the vaccine. Otherwise perfectly healthy beforehand!

BarHumbugs · 26/07/2024 18:17

CopperNanoTubes · 26/07/2024 17:33

No. A steam engine is an external combustion engine. The burning coal heats water in a boiler above the fire, the steam makes the engine work.

Edited

And it would do that without the coal, would it? I said it similar, not identical. Internal or external these engines need a fuel that is not what powers the engine.

InsensibleMe · 26/07/2024 18:19

BarshMarton · 26/07/2024 10:37

It did, though the risk of dying of it was hugely inflated, largely by ignoring all the people who caught it without being tested, and recovered. So the stats they trotted out about risk were based only on known cases, so made Covid look far, far more dangerous than it actually was.

But you lived through the pandemic! How can you not remember the reasons for the lockdown and the vaccines, FFS! Before everyone starts rewriting history, the problems were these:
1 Covid is infectious before symptoms are apparent, so has a high capacity to infect other people.
2 Covid causes severe disease, often requiring intensive care, and thus would have overwhelmed the NHS.
Those two factors, not the deaths, were why we had lockdown.
It was talked about quite a lot at the time, I seem to remember.

InsensibleMe · 26/07/2024 18:23

timenowplease · 26/07/2024 09:42

"Conspiracy theorists do like to simplify things though and pretend there is an easy answer, water powered car anyone?"

If you can have steam powered trains why can't you have water powered cars?

Aaaaaaargh!
Science! Whatever happened to it?

MassiveOvaryaction · 26/07/2024 18:37

1dayatatime · 25/07/2024 00:56

Hmmm so let's see there were only two labs in the world studying coronavirus, one in Texas and one in Wuhan. The Wuhan lab was the only lab researching coronavirus from bats.

Coronavirus started in Wuhan but the first "explanation of the blocks" was that it came from a species jump at a wet market. China refused any UN visit to Wuhan for a full 12 months.

Interesting the species jump theory originated from Peter Daszak. In 2014 Eco Health alliance whose President was Daszak was given considerable funding to investigate coronavirus in bats in Southern China working with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Of course it came from an accidental lab leak caused by poor bio security.

it was ridiculous that to say Covid

Did you get carried off in the middle of that last sentence @1dayatatime ?! Shock

Nousernamesleftatall · 26/07/2024 18:39

InsensibleMe · 26/07/2024 18:19

But you lived through the pandemic! How can you not remember the reasons for the lockdown and the vaccines, FFS! Before everyone starts rewriting history, the problems were these:
1 Covid is infectious before symptoms are apparent, so has a high capacity to infect other people.
2 Covid causes severe disease, often requiring intensive care, and thus would have overwhelmed the NHS.
Those two factors, not the deaths, were why we had lockdown.
It was talked about quite a lot at the time, I seem to remember.

Covid was circulating in 2019. It was no different to a flu until the propaganda and ‘measures’ to contain it. You were lied to. The government heads were not scared of it themselves. They all went to work as normal, travelled and partied.

Ilovecleaning · 26/07/2024 18:43

Cozylozy · 24/07/2024 23:11

The multiple affairs of prince Philip

I always found it very easy to believe that Prince Philip had multiple affairs. How far it matters, is another matter.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 26/07/2024 19:07

timenowplease · 25/07/2024 11:50

Anyone who's interested in this type of thing can see it playing out in real time on the Trump threads from the other day.

So many poster's saying the same thing, they're absolutely terrified this manic will have his finger on the nuclear button, the country will be ruined, he'll destroy America - I saw a post the other day saying Trump has made his thirst for killing well known! 🤣🤣. Absolutely unhinged.

All these posts and posters seemingly forgetting that Trump as already been President of the US and nothing terrible happened.

The overturning of Roe vs Wade wasn't terrible enough for you?

Callipygion · 26/07/2024 19:20

Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright · 24/07/2024 23:42

Robert Lustig and sugar.

Covid might have been created in a lab, a deliberate leak is going too far though.

I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA killed Kennedy, if only because they're the only ones who could keep it covered up for so long.

I remember watching a documentary on the tv and it was so interesting - it was quite some time ago. They did reconstructions of various scenarios of the shooting on computer. Basically the end conclusion was that the fatal shot that hit Kennedy in the head was a return of fire from a member of his protection team in the car in front.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 26/07/2024 19:26

scalt · 26/07/2024 09:33

Lots of people (dismissed as "conspiracy theorists") predicted that compulsory vaccines would follow on from lockdowns - this was certainly true in some countries, and came dangerously close to reality in England.

Lockdown was never going to be "three weeks to flatten the curve". It's true that the UK government didn't actually say this, but it's often quoted. Perhaps it was said in the USA?

I'm sure there's a link between vaccines and heart problems. Healthy teenagers do not simply drop dead with no reason.

Some scientists have admitted that the "two metres" figure for social distancing was made up on the spot, and not based on any experiments or anything.

The media is tightly controlled by the government, especially the BBC, and especially during Covid. The government made sure there was a media blackout on anti-lockdown marches, or limited them to "a few hundred conspiracy theorists as Speaker's Corner": I attended many of these myself, and saw with my own eyes that they were easily hundreds of thousands of people; many of them ordinary parents concerned for the future of their children in the government's Brave New World.

Here are a few things which I think might (repeat, MIGHT) be true, as I believe that many things are not as they seem. I'm keeping an open mind, and I don't have enough evidence for these, but I will not be at all surprised if they are shown to be true later.

  • The Queen wasn't in the coffin that everybody queued past.
  • The royals and senior politicians talk about "population control" when they think nobody is listening. Prince Philip had something on his mind when he said in 1988 "If I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to do something about overpopulation." I'm not suggesting there's a link between this and 2020, but it's interesting how his death was that year. Boris Johnson (or maybe Stanley) once wrote in the Telegraph "I cannot understand why nobody is worrying about population control".
  • Actors were involved in the videos of nurses in 2020: after all, there were plenty of actors around who needed work.
  • Lots (or maybe all) of the covid tests had fixed results, with a percentage of them being set to positive, depending on the narrative. This was why they had expiry dates.
  • That the politicians realised that masks were useful for making the public feel afraid, hence the u-turn from "masks are counter-productive" to "now they are compulsory".
  • Sunak's downfall was stage managed, maybe by Sunak himself, or by his team, on Sunak's order: he wanted to be certain that he would not win. Many of the gaffes seemed too good to be true, such as the D-day gaffe: surely one of his handlers knew this would look bad? Ditto the soaking election speech, and the Lib Dem boat passing in the background.
  • Partygate might even have been stage managed, to make damn sure the public would not "want" another lockdown, after they were begging and pleading for it in 2020. Of course, Johnson did the whole "it wasn't me, I swear!", but if he was bribed to play along (and he's far too weak to refuse a good offer), he had to appear not to co-operate.
Again, the above might be true: I'm saying no more than that.

Re: the queen, what would be the point in making all of those people file past an empty coffin?

While we are here, what was the point in all those people filing past a coffin even if she was inside it? (I was not one of the queuers, but I did enjoy the memes laughing at them).

HowardTJMoon · 26/07/2024 19:29

Nousernamesleftatall · 26/07/2024 18:39

Covid was circulating in 2019. It was no different to a flu until the propaganda and ‘measures’ to contain it. You were lied to. The government heads were not scared of it themselves. They all went to work as normal, travelled and partied.

Do you think that the millions of reported deaths due to Covid were real or faked?

What about the millions of reported deaths for the Spanish Flu - real or faked?

HowardTJMoon · 26/07/2024 19:39

Lots of people (dismissed as "conspiracy theorists") predicted that compulsory vaccines would follow on from lockdowns - this was certainly true in some countries, and came dangerously close to reality in England.

Many conspiracy theorists predicted that lockdowns would never end. Or that they would end temporarily but then be brought back permanently. They said that Covid was the beginning of the WEF/Globalist/whatever plot to depopulate the world and/or kick-start the "Great Reset" as instructed by the Georgia Guidestones.

And that's the problem with the rabid conspiracy theorists. They scatter-gun so many possible S0oper-Sekr1t-Pl@ns that inevitably one or two come vaguely close to what actually happens just through sheer chance. A classic example is the US right-wing nutjob Alex Jones. He said that Covid was a complete hoax. Then he said it was targeted at certain ethnic groups. Then he said that it spelled the absolute end of humanity and that there would be lone survivors practising cannibalism. Then he said that it was overblown and should be ignored by Patriots. Then he said that it was a Globalist (read: Jewish) plot to massively reduce the population. Then he said that the lockdowns were just the start and would inevitably result in martial law where all the gun-owners get rounded up.

It's all bollocks promoted by people, like Jones, and Icke, and Brand, and all the rest, who make money off of keeping people scared and telling them that you've got the secret truth that will save them. It's all a grift.

If you spout enough different kind of bollocks then sooner or later you're going to accidentally come up with something that looks somewhat like an actual testicle.

ohyesido · 26/07/2024 19:51

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2024 23:24

It’s where if you have an opinion that they don’t agree with, they deliberately tweak your account so you get no views, your posts disappear off the feeds, no one can follow you, and if someone searches for you, you don’t come up.

But you are not officially banned, your account is still active. As far as you know no one cares what you say.

Really? I have been flummoxed by the lack of likes or comments in my posts, which are much the same as any others by women of a similar age and lifestyle. This makes me feel better about being cringe and ignored 😆

Whynottrythis · 26/07/2024 20:37

I also believe Covid was already in the UK by December 2019. DH and I were both horribly ill and symptoms were just like Covid.

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