Have any conspiracy theories ever been proven true?

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Does anyone know if any past ones have? What have some past ones been? I only know the more recent ones

also quite fancied a CT thread 😳

@InsensibleMe let me add that my Dad was 60 when he had his stroke, extremely fit for his age, non smoker, didn’t drink and no risk factors whatsoever and he’s had 2 strokes, the first one we nearly lost him. He now can’t walk, can’t look after himself and will need a carer for the rest of his life. He’s a shadow of himself. My sister who is 30 also has myocarditis and my mother and farther in law now both have A-fib! Maybe all an unfortunate coincidence but I don’t think so.

What? Quite capable thanks 👍
Hope the same applies to you also 😊

Was joking don't worry. A previous poster said you weren't capable of it. Made me smile

Yes it was funny!

My word
This thread has just deteriorated overnight
Posters claiming lockdowns were never going to end
Posters talking about the impact of vaccines (of course many exist but) as if they weren't much lower than the impact of covid.
As if you couldn't simply see the change in the impact on hospitals. But they'll just claim that was Mainstream media bias

I imagine many of them read The Light and are currently denying climate change

You have a selective memory.

I had the mystery illness, but no antibodies to Covid when tested in mid 2020.

I certainly remember talk in the mainstream media about how lockdowns would have to be an annual thing.

it’s difficult. Fundamentally you have to go on your own experience I think. Two people I know died in 2020 (my dad and a close friend) and neither death had anything to do with covid.

Risk of Myocarditis After Sequential Doses of COVID-19 Vaccine and SARS-CoV-2 Infection by Age and Sex | Circulation (ahajournals.org)

Thank you. I've just had a quick read through and the study is based on people who've had at least one vaccine and more. I can't see any stats for unvaccinated people, is that right or have I missed something?

The idea that partygate was a deliberate ploy is an interesting one. Partygate has always confused me because obviously there are two possibilities - either the partying tories were willing to risk death to have a party, or they knew the rules they’d imposed on the rest of us were a load of nonsense and didn’t need to be followed.

Obviously the latter possibility makes more sense. Few people (not even tories) are suicidally insane.

But if it was a deliberate attempt to destroy lockdown then it all makes sense!

Yes, you've missed something. "SARS-CoV-2 Infection–Associated Myocarditis
There was an increased risk of myocarditis in the 1 to 28 days after a SARS-CoV-2–positive test, which was higher if infection occurred before vaccination (IRR, 11.14 [95% CI, 8.64–14.36]) than in vaccinated individuals (IRR, 5.97 [95% CI, 4.54–7.87]). The risk of myocarditis associated with a SARS-CoV-2–positive test before vaccination was higher in people 40 years or older (IRR, 14.87 [95% CI, 10.98–20.14]) than individuals younger than 40 years (IRR, 5.25 [95% CI, 3.11–8.86]), but no significant difference was observed between risks in women (IRR, 14.23 [95% CI, 9.34–21.68]) and men (IRR, 9.71 [95% CI, 7.03–13.40), although the point estimate for women was higher than the equivalent for men. A similar pattern of risk of myocarditis was associated with a SARS-CoV-2–positive test occurring in vaccinated individuals; however, in this case, the increased risk was substantially lower and in particular was not observed for individuals younger than 40 years (IRR, 1.18 [95% CI, 0.56–2.48]) (Table 3)."

I think with coronavirus vaccines some people definitely died or got very ill but the overall effect saved millions of lives. The governments would have down played any possible side effects to avoid too many people refusing the vaccines and thus coronavirus spreading and killing millions more. I am not sure what actually defines a conspiracy theory in some cases.

No they said may have to
And restrictions not lockdowns
Depending on variants and vaccines. Omicron helped overall

I had that! (South wales) late Autumn before Covid I was so unwell for a couple of weeks - full on in bed (I am a mum of 2 and never get ill enough to actually be off work and in bed blotto) and I was still a bit flakey at Christmas. All the covid symptoms, then in January Covid was ‘announced’ and February/March was lockdown. I’m sure it was the same thing.

I do? About what, exactly?

Was it the case that Covid antibodies wouldn't stay in people's systems for long which was why so many boosters were recommended? Antibody defence would only last X months? So the Covid illness (as opposed to Covid vaccine) would only be detectible for X months too?

Funny as my dad also had 2 strokes after each of his jabs. Like your father, he has become so frail and a shadow of himself.

Because the excess death rates in each country directly correlate to vaccination levels. Countries with very low vaccine uptake like Romania have very low excess deaths, even though plenty of Romanians caught covid.

I did live through the pandemic, and although a lot of vulnerable people died, as pandemics go it could have been a great deal worse. Research the Spanish flu after WW1 and how it affected young and healthy people with a much more severe death rate. I do think the first lockdown was justified to reduce the load on hospitals.

But to rush out a completely novel vaccine technology without proper testing was absolute folly, in my opinion, along with the constant propaganda about it being safe and effective. It was neither of those things. Everyone accepted in the end that the vaccination programme was ineffective in stopping transmission and didn't stop you catching covid. It was bloody obvious. What is less bloody obvious, largely because it's being covered up not being reported by the mainstream media, is that the vaccines are not safe either, not remotely in comparison with previous vaccines we've taken. The adverse reaction rate is off the scale.

Plenty are. Check out whistleblowers like Professor Adam Dalgliesh, the renowned oncologist.

His name is Angus. I used to work with him. He is sadly a bit bonkers now. And he is not a medical doctor.

Eh? Yes, indeed it could have been a great deal worse (and thanks but I don’t need to ‘research’ flu pandemics, it was part of my job). I wonder why it wasn’t a great deal worse? Any thoughts, suggestions…? (hint: lockdown, vaccines…)

Also Dominic Cummings testing his eyesight. .
After this, travel was allowed again.

Eh? Yes, indeed it could have been a great deal worse (and thanks but I don’t need to ‘research’ flu pandemics, it was part of my job). I wonder why it wasn’t a great deal worse? Any thoughts, suggestions…? (hint: lockdown, vaccines…)

Silly billy. Stating the blooming obvious!