What do you think of this year 5 punishment?

[Mayhemmumma]

Curious - not sure how I feel about it, interested in what other schools do.

DS 10 in year 5, loves school, is a good boy, never in any trouble (hence this is new to me) he has good friends, tries hard etc etc

He doesn't like his teacher who he says shouts so loud he turns bright red and is scary, one day he said he shouted so loud he thought he was going to hit a child.

Today DS was asked to sit with a new boy from Ukraine - DS got on well with him, they were laughing about a funny story the teacher read out and chatted during the lesson -he knows this isn't allowed.

His punishment was to miss break and sat alone facing the window and was told this was to watch the other children play outside to see what he would have been doing if he hadn't broken a class rule.

That sounds pretty Victorian!

Will he have the same teacher next year, or can you tell him to tough it out until the summer holidays, @Mayhemmumma?

I don't have a problem with them missing break, but I don't like the sitting facing the wall. It should be walking around with the teacher on duty, picking up rubbish, or something active.

I wouldn't be happy with that. I would complain. I'm pretty certain that it won't be in the school behavioural code that they have to watch others play. That part seems cruel.

He's got a lovely teacher next year and like you say only 2 days left.

It just seemed mean to me but I wasn't sure if it's worth saying anything or not. I'd like to feed back but also have one more year of seeing this teacher regularly in school.

Gosh, that's over the top IMO.

It will be about confidentiality. The teacher was doing something with confidential information on show, and arranged it so the kids didn't glimpse anything. In line with data protection legislation.

The teacher sounds nasty, non-constructive and spiteful, or ramping up for a nervous breakdown. My ds had a very shouty teacher like that and she went on long term sick, never to be seen again.

It's been a long term, staff are tired and perhaps not at their best. Can you check that your ds will not have that teacher next year?

Maybe check the school behaviour policy. Any ambiguity ask the hoy if this is one of the schools punishments.

No excuses but had he already been told a few times to keep quiet?

@Meowzabub it wasn't the wall it was the window to see the other children play

My son is also yr 5, they had a supply teacher for 3 weeks
He stamped on their work
Shouted
Gave out ridiculous punishments as above ⬆️

I didn't complain at the time , but knew his actual teacher , had a quiet word. Other parents complained as frankly it was out of order!

Haven't seen him since. Thank goodness.

Mean in this situation , some people should not be teaching kids , i would not be happy with a teacher shouting at my child , if he were shouting at his colleague it would not be tolerated in his workplace.
Also what a silly man ,your child shows a new kid -from Ukraine of all places ,the hand of friendship and gets treated like this .

That's outdated, counter-productive and very poor practice.

I would complain - after the end of term! - as the head needs to know this bullying behaviour is going on.

I would phrase it as 'It may be that something got lost in translation, but I was very concerned to hear this and felt I must raise it as I am sure you would want to know if this type of unacceptable punishment was taking place in the school.'

As a one off, I really couldn’t get worked up about this.

As a one off, I really couldn’t get worked up about this. I never really get this response, why is unacceptable treatment OK if it is once?

Should have made him stand in the corner.

Child breaks rules.
Child misses break time as a consequence.
Sits somewhere whilst missing break.

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I'd complain. The teacher sounds awful.

Those of you who think it is terrible to make a child miss break for talking when they are supposed to be working quietly, what behaviour management would you use instead?

Seems fair enough, he knew he was breaking a rule.

He could have always closed his eyes if looking at the children playing bothered him that much.

Yeah, I feel like I'm missing something too.

Mind, I also read the title as a 5 year punishment, rather than year 5 punishment.

Fair enough to miss break but to humiliate him is not really on is it?

No issue with him missing break - I think you've missed the point.

I would prefer if he'd read or done some work- spellings or anything.

Mixed range of responses but to answer:

No he doesn't get told off and isn't chatty in class usually, feedback is his behaviour is excellent.

It's nothing to do with data protection, he could have quite easily read a book or done school work and wouldn't have needed to look at the teacher - I imagine that's the last thing he'd want to do.

I mentioned this child being from Ukraine because it's an odd time of year to start but he's doing some intro visits and getting to know his class mates.

I think my son was excited to be asked to befriend him and got over excited- he knows he was chatting and knows he shouldn't have been.

I feel there should be some feedback as his apparent anger, my DS and his friends being scared of him plus this request to watch out the window as a punishment doesn't seem right to me.

Actually I don't think kids should be made to work in silence either.

Close his eyes?! Blimey you're even harder!

Although I think that's a ridiculous suggestion for a ten year old, it also wasn't what the teacher told him to do- he was asked to watch the other children play to see what he was missing out on.

Teacher sounds like a dick.