What do you think of this year 5 punishment?

[Mayhemmumma]

Curious - not sure how I feel about it, interested in what other schools do.

DS 10 in year 5, loves school, is a good boy, never in any trouble (hence this is new to me) he has good friends, tries hard etc etc

He doesn't like his teacher who he says shouts so loud he turns bright red and is scary, one day he said he shouted so loud he thought he was going to hit a child.

Today DS was asked to sit with a new boy from Ukraine - DS got on well with him, they were laughing about a funny story the teacher read out and chatted during the lesson -he knows this isn't allowed.

His punishment was to miss break and sat alone facing the window and was told this was to watch the other children play outside to see what he would have been doing if he hadn't broken a class rule.

We had this at primary school in the late eighties early nineties, if you were naughty you got put in the blue book, if you got in the blue book three times (in a defined period not sure maybe every half term could've even been in a week?) you missed a playtime/break and had to sit on a chair in the hall facing the floor to ceiling windows watching your friends play.
You had to go some to get in the book though, so to do it three times you were probably a bit of a nightmare. I think I only got in the book once, for talking in class, I'd been warned but got caught doing it again. The irony was it was a new teacher, and the prior one had spent the year getting me to talk because I'd been painfully shy!

It seems a bit old fashioned but not the end of the world

Are they still doing work with only a day and a half to go?

Tbh, if he was in my class, he wouldn't get a consequence for it ,despite being disruptive. We would be happy the boys were getting along, and he was helping the new kid integrate and make friends then (especially if he's a good kid otherwise) remind him about the school rules, right choices and being a good example for the new boy. If he carried on a warning about missing play, then actually give the consequence.

Tbh with 2 days to go, it is what it is. The worst is all behind him now.

Maybe there isn't only a day or so to go. Break up day here isn't until the 29th.

On here, people complain if their child has to put up with disruption or bad behaviour in class but at the same time don't want teachers to implement any behaviour strategies.

The teacher should just have turned the screen off surely?

turn the screen off? How would they get their work done exactly?

Yea they should implement strategies.

But they need to be useful and purposeful.

2 excited 10 yos meeting, talking and laughing need time to run around. Missing break is counterproductive.

Facing the window is cruel.

Separating them or sitting them alone for a lesson is more appropriate.

how many children do you think can sit "alone" in an overcrowded classroom? how many children can you separate one child from? Missing break is an effective consequence, and is entirely appropriate.

These children will be heading for secondary in a year and can't work in silence????

Can I ask what you do then as a consequence.

That's horrible. He was begging kind to the new boy - ok, they should have been quiet and I could understand if the teacher had told him to pipe down, but helping a new, probably overwhelmed young lad to settle in deserves credit, surely, not a Draconian punishment.

Im surprised you still get punishment like this. There would be a lot more respect if more teachers were like this.

Do you have some evidence beyond the purely anecdotal that missing break is an effective punishment? It seems counterintuitive to deny a hyperactive child their one chance to blow off some steam and run around. If anything that would lead to worse behavior after the break they didn’t have.

Stop being so woke. If you're naughty you need punishment.

There’s an unsupported assertion if there ever was one. Which of that teacher’s actions is most worthy of respect? The red-faced shouting and lack of self-control, or the sadistic touch of forcing a child to watch other children at break?

It leads to better behaviour every day after wards if they know the consequence of poor behaviour will be to miss their break

The British education system is built on respect, fairness and punishment. We've removed punishment in recent years. Up until recently we had more methods like the teachers here and they were more effective than namby pamby approaches.

Of course you have no evidence. You’re one of those people who uses the term “woke” to mean “everything not sufficiently brutal or discriminatory for my tastes.”

I think it’s fine to make him watch the others play. Shame the teacher had to miss his lunchtime too!

Where I from they still use cane.

Why is he shouting?
Red in the face! I would be asking the school why that is ok!
I would think he needs to learn not to distract but facing a wall fgs.
I'd be saving your child by contacting t he school these teachers have no right to scream surely.
What a great role model he is pfft.

Baker well have to agree to disagree.

But I'm in charge of behaviour in my school and I have other schools asking for training from me - so I'll stick to my way for now!

And separating children is easy.

A you swap with B. Job done!

😂😂

Well it worked, he won’t be doing that again.

But the teacher needs to follow the behavioural policy.

If he was the Yr6 teacher I’d be concerned for the next full year, if not then move on and pray for those innocent little Year 4’s. they don’t know what’s coming!

Sorry missed the fact he’s got a new teacher in Yr6! Just move on! 💐

I assumed you meant the large screen linked to the computer otherwise, there are plenty of other places a child can be in a classroom where they can’t see a monitor.

I dont think you have ever tried to get work done in your break time while supervising children in detention