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Anyone you know ever said anything to you that's made you change your opinion of them?

245 replies

TrustPenguins · 15/07/2024 13:49

Kind of light-hearted but...

Two examples recently:

  1. A friend admitted (rather sheepishly) that he voted Tory. He said it was because of Labour's intended VAT on private school fees (his children go to private school). That was his sole reason.
I feel this was selfish and he wasn't looking at the bigger picture. I've always been taught to vote with the most vulnerable person you know in mind and of what is in their best interests. I was also shocked that a good friend would vote Tory full stop!
  1. Another friend said he was supporting Spain in the football last night. Apparently his Mum is Scottish and his Dad is Scouse so they've never supported England (friend is English). When England played Italy in the previous final, he was cheering on Italy. When Italy won, he was celebrating whilst his kids were crying (they were supporting England). Just seems strange to me.

Obviously anyone can vote for and support who they like but I just never expected these friends to say / do this, and rightly or wrongly, it has changed my opinion of them a bit.
Just when you think you know someone...! 🤣

Anyone got any other examples?

OP posts:
RenoDakota · 16/07/2024 19:40

Thumbelinatinylittlething · 16/07/2024 19:24

Yes I know you corrected someone's grammar. So I would suggest it's a good rule of thumb to be correct yourself. Which is exactly the point you made to the PP. Amusingly.

I just lost the will to live.
Let's agree that you still think you are right, and leave it at that.
Me is leaving this conversation now 🤣

Thumbelinatinylittlething · 16/07/2024 19:41

RenoDakota · 16/07/2024 19:40

I just lost the will to live.
Let's agree that you still think you are right, and leave it at that.
Me is leaving this conversation now 🤣

"See, it's not nice being corrected is it?"

dizzydizzydizzy · 16/07/2024 19:42

HcbSS · 15/07/2024 15:20

I would happily no longer have anything to do with anyone who stated that they were vegan (unless this diet had been ordered by a doctor).

Why out of curiosity? I'm not vegan or even vegetarian. I have a friend who is also very anti vegan and I have been wondering why it would bother anyone else.

ladygindiva · 16/07/2024 19:48

Yes, a friend of mine made some comments about a high profile sexual assault case. Victim blaming type comments. It was too close to home, as I've been there, unknown to them. So that was that.

dizzydizzydizzy · 16/07/2024 19:56

I finally managed to extricate myself from my abusive relationships by getting my own flat. It was very difficult to find anything. When I told my best friend about the place I'd found, she told me everyone knew it was a drugs den and knocking shop and I would be woken up in the night by police raids and would be stepping in vomit in the corridor. She scared the living daylights out of me. After moving in, I realised that she had made
The whole story up and complained to her. She told me that there was nothing wrong with what she had said; it was my reaction that was the problem. I'm never talking to her again.

usernother · 16/07/2024 20:01

I've muted and deleted people on social media who post political things that tell other people who to vote for. Always Labour voters.

CarrieCardigan · 16/07/2024 20:05

User6874356 · 16/07/2024 16:52

i suppose my issue with that how do you know the party you picked does actually benefit either asylum seekers or those who struggle with literacy? If you claim to be acting in someone else’s interests how do you know what these interests are? How do you know they “need” you to vote in a certain way?

I am descended from refugees. They would be horrified at many of the policies and behavior of (eg) the Green Party because of their open antisemitism. How do you know these asylum seekers you claim to vote on behalf of are happy with any particular party’s policies on every issue? People are complicated and have many different opinions and needs on many issues. Same with people who struggle with literacy- they may think (eg) that climate change is a hoax. How can you fully capture their interests with your “instincts”?

im not taking issue with the party you chose to pick (whoever it is). However I do dispute that you are really voting on the basis of someone else’s interests. You don’t know what these interests are or what sort of society they want. So maybe it’s better to be honest and admit you are voting for what you want rather than it being some selfless act. Which is fine.

But I know people don’t want to be sent to Rwanda!
I also know they don’t want to be demonised or treated as though they’ve ’stolen’ British jobs.
I know that on the whole, people want to learn to read and write, they want to get into work and make something of their lives.
I’d like there to be more education on the merits of economic migration as I’ve spoken to many people who simply don’t understand why this type of immigration is vital. On a similar note I’d also like more people to understand that seeking asylum is not illegal. To arrive by boat and apply for asylum is not an illegal act.
Finally, I really didn’t vote with my own interests in mind and I find it ironic, given the accusation you’re levelling at me about making assumptions, that you’d presume that to definitely be the case. We’d be much better off financially under a Tory government even without the VAT on the school fees. Plus I lean towards being GC and I’m not happy with the GRA so Kemi Badenoch aligns more with my views on that than either Labour or the LDs. We own an expensive house that I’d like to leave to my kids without them paying too much inheritance tax I don’t want to pay extra capital gains tax on the house we rent out. Nor do I want my council to be further encouraged by the government to build yet another faceless estate of new builds in my town. So on paper, I’m definitely shooting myself in the foot by not voting Tory. But it is not entirely altruistic as part of my reasoning is that by raising everyone up and encouraging levelling up, the country as a whole becomes healthier and wealthier. 🤷‍♀️

hendoop · 16/07/2024 20:13

I had a good friend who made a racist comment, it slipped out and I could not look at her the same

She knew my stance on racism and experience so was obviously trying to hide that part of herself, then she let slip and I was done.

She showed me exactly who she was in that sentance she thought I did not hear

hendoop · 16/07/2024 20:14

Another friend not close let slip he takes coke recreationally, I was done at that point.

Thumbelinatinylittlething · 16/07/2024 20:14

CarrieCardigan · 16/07/2024 20:05

But I know people don’t want to be sent to Rwanda!
I also know they don’t want to be demonised or treated as though they’ve ’stolen’ British jobs.
I know that on the whole, people want to learn to read and write, they want to get into work and make something of their lives.
I’d like there to be more education on the merits of economic migration as I’ve spoken to many people who simply don’t understand why this type of immigration is vital. On a similar note I’d also like more people to understand that seeking asylum is not illegal. To arrive by boat and apply for asylum is not an illegal act.
Finally, I really didn’t vote with my own interests in mind and I find it ironic, given the accusation you’re levelling at me about making assumptions, that you’d presume that to definitely be the case. We’d be much better off financially under a Tory government even without the VAT on the school fees. Plus I lean towards being GC and I’m not happy with the GRA so Kemi Badenoch aligns more with my views on that than either Labour or the LDs. We own an expensive house that I’d like to leave to my kids without them paying too much inheritance tax I don’t want to pay extra capital gains tax on the house we rent out. Nor do I want my council to be further encouraged by the government to build yet another faceless estate of new builds in my town. So on paper, I’m definitely shooting myself in the foot by not voting Tory. But it is not entirely altruistic as part of my reasoning is that by raising everyone up and encouraging levelling up, the country as a whole becomes healthier and wealthier. 🤷‍♀️

So essentially you are voting for the interests of people who are not actually citizens of this country and who are here illegally, rather than the interests of the UK non-readers.

I might start voting in the interests of the people who cannot read in Brazil. I'm outraged that neither Conservative or Labour covered this in their manifestos.

FrangipaniBlue · 16/07/2024 20:15

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 15/07/2024 14:53

I get on with DHs friends wife, always thought they were a lovely couple. They have 3 kids, one with physical and intellectual disabilities. She told me recently that when they go on holidays her DH makes sure he is booked into a seat far away from the rest of the family because he likes to relax on a flight. I can barely look him in the eye since.

This would probably make me see the wife in a different light too...... what kind of wet wipe puts up with this shit?

he's a total dick for doing it and she's a doormat for going along with it!

GrumpySausage · 16/07/2024 20:28

KStockHERO · 15/07/2024 15:57

Years ago, BIL and SIL said that they don't keep and reheat takeaway food.
I've never looked at them in the same way again. Bloody weirdos 😅

Now these people I will judge.... 😁

Darkdiamond · 16/07/2024 20:28

Anyone who doesn't put their kids in carseats/seatbelts. It's just over, lights out, and I can't get past it. I think it's despicable.

JC03745 · 16/07/2024 20:31

MIL mentioned that my now DH and I should be married before TTC.

I said 'Weren't you 8mths pregnant when you married DH's step-dad?'
She said 'Well, it was different then!'
I said 'That was in the 70's when many thought that was still taboo?!?'
Similar examples of 'do as I say' meant I have never been close and don't share anything personal with her.

HiCandles · 16/07/2024 20:34

A lady I worked with was expecting her first and openly shared she was devastated it was a girl. She said she always wanted a boy and couldn't believe that she had to go through a whole pregnancy until she could try again, and it was an IVF conception. She said she would go to Poland for IVF there so they could choose the sex. I hadn't realised it was allowed there and said so, and she was surprised that people in the UK weren't regularly finding places they could choose, as it was normal apparently in Poland where she came from.
She did then have a boy and now shares social media posts with things like # mumofaboy # boyatlast #sonsarethebest.
I feel so so much for the daughter who will eventually cotton on if she hasn't already.
I've never thought of her in the same way since. It's extremely unusual I think to express such open sex preference and she seemed to have no idea what she was saying was so offensive.

LondonLass61 · 16/07/2024 21:06

My friend made a huge deal about voting for Brexit as did one of my siblings. That's fine - we live in a democracy but then they both boasted on FB about applying for Irish passports and were laughing about 'the suckers' who'd lost their freedom of movement.
Rank hypocrisy.

CarrieCardigan · 16/07/2024 21:29

Thumbelinatinylittlething · 16/07/2024 20:14

So essentially you are voting for the interests of people who are not actually citizens of this country and who are here illegally, rather than the interests of the UK non-readers.

I might start voting in the interests of the people who cannot read in Brazil. I'm outraged that neither Conservative or Labour covered this in their manifestos.

<sigh> Firstly, as previously mentioned, arriving in the UK and seeking asylum is not illegal. And whilst those people wait for the outcome of their application, they are not living here illegally.
Secondly, I am extremely interested in ‘UK non readers’ and work with people in this position every day so I have no idea where you get that notion from. 🙄 As per my much earlier post, it is understanding the difficulties faced by those who are often considered to be on the fringes of society that had let to me actively choosing not to vote Tory despite the fact that, personally, I’d likely be far better off.

Barbadossunset · 16/07/2024 21:32

After moving in, I realised that she had made
The whole story up

@dizzydizzydizzy how extraordinary. Why did she tell this complete lie? Did she have a history of inventing stories, or was she jealous you were getting your own flat?

lovelysunshine22 · 16/07/2024 21:33

Tbh i think it says more about you if you are so intolerant that you cannot get along with people who vote differently or have a different opinion to you!

Thumbelinatinylittlething · 16/07/2024 21:36

CarrieCardigan · 16/07/2024 21:29

<sigh> Firstly, as previously mentioned, arriving in the UK and seeking asylum is not illegal. And whilst those people wait for the outcome of their application, they are not living here illegally.
Secondly, I am extremely interested in ‘UK non readers’ and work with people in this position every day so I have no idea where you get that notion from. 🙄 As per my much earlier post, it is understanding the difficulties faced by those who are often considered to be on the fringes of society that had let to me actively choosing not to vote Tory despite the fact that, personally, I’d likely be far better off.

Now now don't "sigh". It's one of those MN phrases that are a little bit cringey.

You seem to be preoccupied in your posts mainly with people from other countries rather than your own and on whose behalf you cast your vote using your "instinct". That's not unusual these days though.

Scirocco · 16/07/2024 21:39

The person who said how fortunate it was, in their opinion, that my (non-white) DC looked "white-passing" - "if you keep it quiet, people might not even realise they're not [white]".

No thanks. My DC can be proud of their heritage and that person can sod off.

lovelysunshine22 · 16/07/2024 21:40

In fact I have a relative who is completely the opposite end of the spectrum to me on just about everything, lifestyle, views, politics etc. However because neither of us are judgmental dicks and we both understand that it's completely ok to agree to disagree we actually get on like a house on fire!

swimsong · 16/07/2024 21:45

Quietnights · 15/07/2024 14:23

I change my opinion of anyone who is goes off people when they find they vote Tory.

For me, finding out someone you like votes Tory (or whatever) is a chance to recognise your prejudice against Tory voters (or whatever), rather than an invitation to change your mind about someone you know and like.

You are prejudiced against people who go off someone that votes Tory. You've pre-judged them that they do so because of a 'prejudice' - rather than for entirely rational reasons.

swimsong · 16/07/2024 21:51

Byeckythump · 16/07/2024 17:38

Found out today an acquaintance believes Putin didn’t start the war. I knew they were more left wing than me but not that far! I literally didn’t know what to say and will avoid as much as possible in the future.

That's more of a far right thing these days - see JD Vance etc.
Russia is now an extremely authoritarian capitalist state that draws on orthodox church creed to justify many of it's policies.

StMarieforme · 16/07/2024 21:56

AzureAnt · 15/07/2024 15:18

Friend one is entitled to vote for whosoever he wishes, be it a single issue or not
Friend two, he does realise that Liverpool is in England?

I was trying to get my head round the Scouse/ England thing?!