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I've met my first ever double double barrel named child!

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llamajohn · 10/07/2024 19:00

I wondered when it would happen, when two people with double barrel names have a child.

I met Alice Smith-Jones Williams-Taylor*

*Not real names, but you get the gist ... In fact her surname is actually longer than the above!

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DeadlyKnightshade · 10/07/2024 22:02

MassiveOvaryaction · 10/07/2024 19:27

Blimey. Wouldn't want to sew in those name labels!

Imagine embroidering their name on the aertex PE top.
Is this till done?

Newsenmum · 10/07/2024 22:02

WeakAsIAm · 10/07/2024 21:50

Still is, I work with children, double barrels guarantees you're seeing the roughest family.

Sorry that's very judgey but it is my first thought.

Absolute opposite for me! The ‘roughest’ families always take the dads for some reason, even if the women looks after them all the time and isn’t married to him. Never got that.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 10/07/2024 22:03

Pertinentowl · 10/07/2024 19:40

Many many countries do this and manage. You’ll learn about them all when you are a bit bigger.

Do many many other countries double double barrel? What do they do after that?
Or do they just double barrel, and then have a system for continuing it through, which would be perfectly reasonable.

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 22:05

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 10/07/2024 22:03

Do many many other countries double double barrel? What do they do after that?
Or do they just double barrel, and then have a system for continuing it through, which would be perfectly reasonable.

In Spain we don’t double barrel. We stop at 2 surnames

Twodozenroses · 10/07/2024 22:08

I’ve not come across this before. I’ve come across a child with a double barrelled first name and then double barrelled surname with none of the names being common ones. Along the lines of:

Logan-Seth Dock-Randalls

4 surnames is excessive. Poor child

QueenApple1 · 10/07/2024 22:11

MamasitaGringita · 10/07/2024 19:30

Nothing wrong with double barrelling. Most people will drop part of their name after a generation. It works perfectly well in Spain. I think it's preferable to just taking on the man's name because it's traditional 🥱

So what do they do in Spain? Which name do they drop?

Genuinely interested.

JackJarvisEsq · 10/07/2024 22:14

I work with a guy who has a double barrelled surname and he’s very much a boarding school RP posho

i, on the other hand, have a double barrelled forename and am Glaswegian scum

Lancasterel · 10/07/2024 22:15

Notaflippinclue · 10/07/2024 19:11

It was a stigma on our council estate 50 years ago - everyone presumed parents weren't married

A while ago I taught several half-siblings over the course of a few years, they all had the dad’s surname then each different mum’s surname, double-barrelled. Dad got around a bit!

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 22:16

QueenApple1 · 10/07/2024 22:11

So what do they do in Spain? Which name do they drop?

Genuinely interested.

for the children ? The second one for the dad and mum.

I’m Easter white brown
if I married in Spain id keep my surnames.
my husband would be husb black red

when I have a child they’d be
child black white.

samarrange · 10/07/2024 22:18

They should do what companies do when they merge and all the previous names get unwieldy. Either had some kind of boardroom deathmatch or drawing of lots to decide which name gets eliminated, or have marketing consultants in bow ties come up with a completely different name. She could be Alice Dynamon™ or something.

That or an acronym. Alice SJWT, perhaps. (I have arbitrarily italicised the J there, as a symbol of the family's commitment to proactive leveraging of diversity, or some such bollocks.)

AcrobaticCardigan · 10/07/2024 22:19

UtterlyOtterly · 10/07/2024 19:42

Just imagine if two double-double barrelled people married.

Hello, my name is Tom Smith-Jones Brown-White Mason-Thompson Lewis-Hutchinson.

And then they work at a legal firm or something. I have visions of a phone call:

“Hi there, its s Tom Smith-Jones Brown-White Mason-Thompson Lewis-Hutchinson, I’m calling from Langley-Smith Robertson-Jones-Thompson-Middleton Anderson-Michael…”

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 10/07/2024 22:19

This is really nasty. The kids can't choose their names until they are adults so you're basically sneering at a bunch of kids.

MassiveOvaryaction · 10/07/2024 22:20

DeadlyKnightshade · 10/07/2024 22:02

Imagine embroidering their name on the aertex PE top.
Is this till done?

Not in dc school! We had to embroider our initials on PE tops and skirts but even that would be a massive faff!

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 10/07/2024 22:22

WeakAsIAm · 10/07/2024 21:50

Still is, I work with children, double barrels guarantees you're seeing the roughest family.

Sorry that's very judgey but it is my first thought.

Couldn't be further from the truth in my circles

Subfusc · 10/07/2024 22:23

Notaflippinclue · 10/07/2024 19:11

It was a stigma on our council estate 50 years ago - everyone presumed parents weren't married

Yeah, well those tragically small-minded days are long gone, fortunately.

MaidOfAle · 10/07/2024 22:24

Foxblue · 10/07/2024 20:34

Honestly, I kind of love the fact that the parents will have been in full knowledge that people will think they are being ridiculous and done it anyway - sure, a few computer systems might spit the name back out but is that really a big deal in the grand scheme of things?
Everyone always comes up with silly little 'it will look silly written on envelopes' and 'people will be confused' things to moan about and honestly I think... and? No child has lasting trauma from a tricky name.
(I'm sure someone will come along to tell me actually they had xxx happen because of their name, ignoring the fact loads of us go around with unusual names and it's fine, and there's in fact an entire world out there that sits outside of western naming conventions that manages to function pretty well)

Computer systems rejecting your name is a huge deal.

WimpoleHat · 10/07/2024 22:25

What is pretentious are the English gentry who have triple-barrelled names, like the Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes**

I worked with a chap from that family. He was one of the nicest and least pretentious people I’ve ever met - and always, always went by “Fiennes” and nothing else (the triple barrelled name only came to public knowledge when I was travelling with him and he had a problem with a visa application that wouldn’t take all three names and had to match his passport!).

NewName24 · 10/07/2024 22:26

- sure, a few computer systems might spit the name back out but is that really a big deal in the grand scheme of things?

Of course it is. It will create huge problems.

No child has lasting trauma from a tricky name.

They really do you know.
I'm guessing you've not worked with many people with some of the names I've seen.

Fairydustandsparklylights · 10/07/2024 22:27

pontipinemum · 10/07/2024 19:59

Both parents pass on 1 surname to their children I think the fathers name is usually the 2nd part of the surname, so John's mam in this case would have been Smith.

So Mary Ryan Murphy married John Smith Roche

Their child is Sarah Murphy Roche. I think!

I had though parents here that were double barrel double barrel would choose 2 surnames between them.

In Spain the child gets the fathers first surname as their first surname and then the mothers first surname as their second one.

So if Mary Ryan Murphy married John Smith Roche, the child would be called Sarah Smith Ryan. There would be no hyphen between the surnames.

Both surnames are used on anything official / paperwork, but lots of people just use the first surname so Sarah would many times just introduce herself as Sarah Smith. This is personal preference though as some use both.

Thereislightattheendofthetunnel · 10/07/2024 22:28

DoublePeonies · 10/07/2024 19:34

I was just about to say the system in Spain works well - until they come to the uk, and people use the incorrect part when reading it.

You are absolutely right.

In the UK people use your first name and your last surname. Whatever is in the middle gets forgotten.

Getting a prescription from the pharmacy is an interesting experience. They don’t know where to put you 😂

GellerYeller · 10/07/2024 22:28

@whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil hear hear. My double barrelled friend assumed her name on marriage, her ensuing kids were told to pick which surname they liked best to use IF they marry and IF they want to change it. Or maybe they’ll just keep the double barrel name. They won’t quadruple barrel.
They also have no middle names as she and DH thought it was unfair to saddle them with long names at school. The kids will choose one if they wish when older. Seems fair.

ForYouManImADoomBoy · 10/07/2024 22:35

not a double barrelled name but i have more than one middle name so when it comes to forms, or boarding passes or anything like that, i ALWAYS get funny looks because not all of my names will fit so i get a lot of stops and stuff while they double check

MaidOfAle · 10/07/2024 22:35

@WimpoleHat At least one man of the gentry triple-barrelled to marry a rich wife: see "Second marriage and children" of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CharlesVane,3rdMarquessofLondonderry

Summerinspringtime · 10/07/2024 22:39

I’ve come across a child with a double barrelled fist name and a double barrelled surname, both hyphenated. She also had 2 middle names. The fist names were both long too and none of the names flowed very well.
Think along the lines of:
Aurora-Josephine Lyra Marjorie Hiscock-Simpleton.

Aproductofmyera80s · 10/07/2024 22:43

When I was younger only the posh people had double barrel names, so I was shocked when I got to high school and a non posh kid had one… we used to call him posh because of it though. He was called posh Sam, because thier were 2 sams 😃

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