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I've met my first ever double double barrel named child!

169 replies

llamajohn · 10/07/2024 19:00

I wondered when it would happen, when two people with double barrel names have a child.

I met Alice Smith-Jones Williams-Taylor*

*Not real names, but you get the gist ... In fact her surname is actually longer than the above!

OP posts:
Starlight7080 · 10/07/2024 20:49

I love a double barrelled name . Instantly gives me the impression the mum is not a push over who Instantly took a man's name .
I know more women who have either a different name to their dcs or divorce and then go back to previous name and again have a different name to dcs.
And they hate it .

chatenoire · 10/07/2024 20:49

DoublePeonies · 10/07/2024 19:34

I was just about to say the system in Spain works well - until they come to the uk, and people use the incorrect part when reading it.

LOL yeah, I hate being called Ms Second Surname

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 20:50

AmyandPhilipfan · 10/07/2024 19:26

I remember a teacher of mine at sixth form insisting that everyone should keep their own surname if they married and that their children should then be double barrelled. She was very insistent that everyone should do this. I did try to point out that it would only work for one generation as otherwise the next generation would have four surnames but she wouldn't listen!

you can limit it to two like we do in Spain
I know up to 8 of my surnames. I only use the first two. I think it’s nice and you can track back your surname heritage.

my 8 surnames
my paternal grandad 1st surname
my maternal grandads 1 surname
my paternal grand mums 1st surname
my maternal grand mums 1st surname
my paternal grandad 2nd surname
my maternal grandads 2nd surname
my paternal grand mums 2nd surname
my maternal grand mums 2nd surname

sweatervest · 10/07/2024 20:51

annabel goldsmith had three surnames (triple barrelled thing) before she was goldsmith.

mrpenny · 10/07/2024 20:54

Mama_bear · 10/07/2024 20:48

I work with a double barreled first name double barreled surname colleague so 4 names in total. It's pretentious. She says it's bacause of her heritage. She's born and raised in England.

Why? It’s what she’s chosen.

RobinHood19 · 10/07/2024 20:54

She says it's bacause of her heritage. She's born and raised in England.

Only people of English heritage are born and raised in England?

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 10/07/2024 20:55

There are some really boring surname/last name/family name mansplainers on here.

Also one teacher and one HCP who spend too long bothering about patient/pupil names. (I haven’t RTFT, there could be more.)

sentfrmmyiphone · 10/07/2024 20:55

spuddy4 · 10/07/2024 20:49

I hated my double barrelled name when I was a child. Everyone else had easy names to learn how to write and there was me using up every letter in the alphabet twice (slight exaggeration but it felt like it at the time).

i gave my daughter a double-barrelled (although we called it hyphenated! i was so very sad to learn she never used it at school.. infact she only uses it now because it makes her work stationery look posh!

Chypre · 10/07/2024 20:58

Bloody actual hell. And then there is me with my single-barrel greek surname seriously contemplating to changing it to "Smith" because "...and how do you spell that?" with subsequent calling half of the alphabet drives me nuts. That child has to call out the alphabet twice over!

Despair1 · 10/07/2024 20:58

IMO, double barrel surnames are fraught with problems

gingercat02 · 10/07/2024 21:00

We should do it the Spanish way. Women don't change their surname on marriage, and the children get a composite surname. It used to be the father's surname followed by the mother's, but now the parents decide the order, and all full siblings must have the same names.
My friend did similar, dads name was the kids' last middle name, and they had her surname. So James George Smith Jones, known as James Jones

Dancingonthemoonlight · 10/07/2024 21:01

My eldest DC has a double barrelled first name and a double barrelled surname but only uses the 1st part of each name. Is it really that shocking?

Silviasilvertoes · 10/07/2024 21:03

llamajohn · 10/07/2024 19:00

I wondered when it would happen, when two people with double barrel names have a child.

I met Alice Smith-Jones Williams-Taylor*

*Not real names, but you get the gist ... In fact her surname is actually longer than the above!

I’m up for a bit of barrelling one-upmanship 😂 DS has a friend at school who’s triple barrelled. Old family, you can find all the names in the village church, but it’s only in the C20th that the double became triple.

Ralphistired · 10/07/2024 21:04

Hahaha.

In Spain men and women have two surnames - maternal and paternal - and don’t change their names upon marriage. The kids take the paternal half of both mum and dad’s surname.

For example Mrs Smith Jones and Mr Williams Taylor would have Baby Williams Smith (assuming here Smith and Williams are the grandfather’s surnames). I think the paternal surname goes first.

Maybe the method needs to be adopted here!

Silviasilvertoes · 10/07/2024 21:05

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 20:50

you can limit it to two like we do in Spain
I know up to 8 of my surnames. I only use the first two. I think it’s nice and you can track back your surname heritage.

my 8 surnames
my paternal grandad 1st surname
my maternal grandads 1 surname
my paternal grand mums 1st surname
my maternal grand mums 1st surname
my paternal grandad 2nd surname
my maternal grandads 2nd surname
my paternal grand mums 2nd surname
my maternal grand mums 2nd surname

That’s cool! I have surname envy.

Pictureperfect9 · 10/07/2024 21:07

All Double Dutch to me. I wouldn't care as long a my DH & I and our children shared exactly the same surname, double barreled or not.

Procrastinates · 10/07/2024 21:09

Pictureperfect9 · 10/07/2024 21:07

All Double Dutch to me. I wouldn't care as long a my DH & I and our children shared exactly the same surname, double barreled or not.

So you would change yours to contain 4 surnames which is what this child and the ones I've taught have?

Honestly it just seems unnecessarily unkind to give a child such a complex name that they are inevitably not going to use once they have the choice.

greglet · 10/07/2024 21:10

DS has both of our surnames, not hyphenated. E.g. I am Sophia Wykeham and DH is George Kingsley, so DS is Oscar Wykeham Kingsley (not our actual names!).

I’m happy for him to be known as Oscar Kingsley for ease, but he sometimes gets Oscar Wykeham instead. We'll have to make a firm decision before he starts school, I suppose.

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 21:11

Procrastinates · 10/07/2024 21:09

So you would change yours to contain 4 surnames which is what this child and the ones I've taught have?

Honestly it just seems unnecessarily unkind to give a child such a complex name that they are inevitably not going to use once they have the choice.

Why wouldn’t they care to choose? What if they love it or they appreciate it? It’s their identity and might love it as much as any other surname.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 10/07/2024 21:12

Because it's her name.

Sorry was replying to the poster who thinks women don't have their own names- just their father's name.

Echobelly · 10/07/2024 21:14

20 years ago I worked helping a theatre group that had a long waiting list which I was updating, so naturally it was full of middle class kids with double-barrelled names and I did find myself thinking 'Blimey, what's going to happen when they have kids?'

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 10/07/2024 21:14

Pictureperfect9 · 10/07/2024 21:07

All Double Dutch to me. I wouldn't care as long a my DH & I and our children shared exactly the same surname, double barreled or not.

Why?

AngeloMysterioso · 10/07/2024 21:15

I used to work with someone who had a Christian name, two middle names, and a quadruple barrelled surname. Seven names in total.

Procrastinates · 10/07/2024 21:16

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 21:11

Why wouldn’t they care to choose? What if they love it or they appreciate it? It’s their identity and might love it as much as any other surname.

Noone is going to use 4 names especially if like the children I taught they also have a long forename and a middle name. They might like the name but practically speaking they won't use all of it, for a start it probably won't fit in most forms, email addresses work badges etc and they will not want the hassle of explaining the whole name everytime they book something or have to write their name. They will sensibly use a shortened version.

Reugny · 10/07/2024 21:17

Mama_bear · 10/07/2024 20:48

I work with a double barreled first name double barreled surname colleague so 4 names in total. It's pretentious. She says it's bacause of her heritage. She's born and raised in England.

Where were her grandparents born and raised?

Names are often linked to family history.