What I don't understand about Taylor Swift/her concerts

[SureJanOK]

Hello all

No this isn't another "I don't get why Taylor is so popular" threads.

I don't understand the practicalities of the concerts.

She sings and dances for 3.5hrs several nights running. How does she not lose her voice? Does she hit the same notes on the third night as she does on the first?

How does she avoid getting ill? Especially with the crowds and the travelling. (I'm just back from an event in London and I think I've brought covid home with me).

Thanks

I dont think I want to know what else you manage with your loofah!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Diet, exercise, travels in a bubble so minimal contact with people. Prob has assistant to clean door handles etc. Will be a trainer and masseuse in the background and a chef. Millions of $/£/€ every night plus staff to pay. Big responsibility but that's the job. Prob has a fitness regime anyway that ramps up a few months before the tour.

I don't think you understand what he is showing you, and how it is irrefutable evidence of lip syncing/miming - he been doing this for years, not only to highlight unauthentic "live" performances, (such as the Eagles or Celine Dion this summer at the olympic opening ceremony which guess what? was pre-recorded), but also to highlight great singers modern and old - such as Karen Carpenter and Roy Orbison. Some of those who he has exposed of not singing have then later come out and admitted to doing it. So its not fake by any imagination.

Its an objective analysis of her performances captured by her fans who attended the random concerts and also the official live concert video from TS, using evidence from over the past year. You simply import the videos into pitch monitoring software. isolate the lead vocals and check the waveforms (lines) for matching up - they should never be identical as every performance a singer makes is like a fingerprint, cannot be replicated.

So yeh - go watch the videos and watch some of his others so you can understand what is being done and why its solid.

Also, not being mean but, i have personally sat through so many full length videos of the tour with my kids - sure, its not targeted to me - a little too old in the tooth for it, but I dont recall seeing any "intense" dance routines in the entire show, please let me know what song thats happening on ?😂

personally, im not surprised by the findings, i feel really bad for the kids today that this is the sort of thing that goes on and is so prevalent. Seems the bars have been lowered greatly on talent required to be an pop star. then again we did have Sam Fox.

I was thinking of the Blond Ambition tour when I saw this thread. Taylor doesn't really dance, she struts across stage and has breaks of guitar etc. Not a criticism its great, but Madonna on that tour, anyone would be exhausted after Express Yourself (I urge anyone to YouTube it) let alone a full concert. Madonna sang live for many of the songs and in Truth or Dare (documentary which followed the tour) she barely had a voice in some parts. She was in her 30s, extremely fit and also tiny. Taylor, although good, her tour seems very tame in terms of fitness on stage dance wise.

Absolutely agree with this. If you follow any musical theatre performers you'll see how much effort goes into keeping them and their voices in tip top condition. I'd imagine it's the same for any professional singers.

Blonde Ambition was only 90 mins and 5 months long though.

Eras has been over 18 months and is 3hrs long.

Madonna mimed during Express Yourself as it was a tough routine. As someone who went to both shows (34yrs apart, both at Wembley) I think Eras has the edge due to technology. I don't think Blonde Ambition even had screens.

There are intense dance routines - I’ve seen it live and watched multiple clips with my obsessed teens. There’s lots written about how she doesn’t mime, but sure, your YouTube analysis must be the one truth.

She also writes her own songs so she’s got quite a high bar for talent.

It looked a grueling tour physically and included very physically demanding dance routines. I'm not slating Taylor, but her tours aren't a patch dance wise physically on the Ambition Tour, which is most likely how she can be on stage longer and tour longer. Madonna barely had a voice towards the end of her tours. I think I saw an interview of Madonnas where she was looking back and was even astonished at herself at how much energy she had on that tour.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, if you think she is an intense dancer, that's your opinion. If you were to compare her to Madonna, i cannot see what you see with regards dancing, but sure - she might have a good song ive never heard of.

Whats not opinion is the vocal analysis - it's fact. Facts dont care about feelings as you may well know. So im sorry to burst your bubble on that - it seems like it will be public news very soon as a lot of parents have spent 1000s on this tour and i for one would never watch a "live 3hr show" in which the artist didn't sing but mimed 40 songs and when she wasn't miming used live-autotune to control her pitch. Anyways to each his own.

You need to calm down..

And stop trying to get people to watch some random YouTube account - are you trying to get views for them?

@SureJanOK you've pretty much got all the answers in this thread, her training would finish a lot of people

she is okay with 4 hours sleep a night too apparently. No hothouse flower but an outdoorsman, to amend a lyric!

as a fan, I can definitely hear when she's singing differently and when she's been run down or has a cold.

it's been such a mission. I was trying to explain to someone how we'd never see something like this again from her - possibly anyone in my lifetime. He didn't really get it till he saw the film and the response when she came to the UK. He didn't get the fandom and now he's also a fan!

side note - I can't believe there's only 9 shows left! It's been amazing to follow. She's got to have a long break after this surely. It's an emotional mission as well as a physical one.

I actually think she might not tour again. I don't know what you do after an Eras tour covering 18 years! She's interested in film making. I wouldn't be surprised if she does writing and production for other artists too.

I often wonder what she eats. I imagine lots of boiled eggs and blueberries etc. I also imagine she'll take a good five years off after this! She's awesome.

I took my DDs to TS as they are both big fans. I liked her but wasn't too bothered before but she's bloody awesome. So impressive, she is so entertaining and must be super fit. I love that she seems so nice too and a great role model for my DDs.

She literally performs for fans in her living room, yet you still want to argue she can’t sing live. Why can’t people believe someone is good at something. The show I watched included her and Jack Antonoff performing with speaking bits and laughing while singing. My dh is a lead singer in a band and manages to sing for 2 hours straight. Totally doable.

@TeenLifeMum you were at that show? Wow! I love Jack. When I first listened to -and loved - the Bleachers, I didn't know he worked with TS. Those two are a force! Separately and together!

She doesn't mime - you can tell if you go and see her. The singing for 3 hours straight blew my mind.

If you ever watch online watch the staging though. Lots of platforms moving up and down, backwards and forwards, things to stand in front of or on and dance moves that make her look like she's moving more than she is. It creates the illusion of the dances being more energetic than they are.

Lots of rest on the off days in a hotel room and even when she goes to public places like restaurants they are closed to everyone else or KC Chiefs games she goes to home games only, arrives alone and sits in a suite with people in her bubble. Flights are private jet so no mixing with the public there. Compare that to your own lives and you'll see there's a much lower chance of her catching anything than you have.

It was amazing. I took my 3 daughters and they absolutely loved it. Florence came on for Florida too. A very special night. I just don’t get the posters who criticise. Totally fine for her to not be your thing, but you can still appreciate the art.

She does mime some of the songs - there are clips of it on YouTube

Pointing out some of the songs are mimed doesn’t mean saying she can’t sing, or that it’s a bad thing. It’s just pointing it out as one of many techniques she uses to ensure she can put on such a long show.

Yes - i obviously jumped onto Mumsnet of all places in an attempt to gather millions of viewers and make the youtuber's channel with almost half a million followers get even bigger by the 10-20 users here. 🙄 lol.

I mentioned the guys channel so people could go have a look and then see for themselves and not blame me for making stuff up!

I literally stumbled upon this thread, which before my comment, i think was relatively dead. Im glad to bring some life back to it!

Its good that there are lots of TS fans and supporters here, i've got a 9month old now and this is the first month where things have started to settle down and i even have time to whip out my laptop and chill during her naptimes. I don't mean to upset anyone by reporting facts.

Can TS sing? yes im sure she can
Is she miming - yes
Is she miming along to save her vocals? - probably,
Is there 1 or 2 songs where she actually sings live - yes
in those 1 or 2 songs - does she use live auto-tune - yes.

I think that ticks all the boxes and means everyone is right - she is singing and she is miming and she is making lots of money being a Queen!!

I couldn’t care less if she mimed some of her shows - I suspect she did when I saw her at Wembley. But it didn’t matter one tiny iota - and if that’s the only way she gets through that show night after night then fine by me. It was incredible, and literally one of the best nights of my 49 years. Her songwriting is unparalleled- TTPD (in particular) is a masterpiece.

I saw her and Pink a week apart. Pink far better singer and performer. And Taylor most definitely was miming and lots of strutting and preening. The teens I was with loved her but I wouldn't rush back and was counting down it ending.

Honestly, it's like a battle between this Swiftie fandom and people because whenever you try and tell them that she's lipsyncing some songs they always come out with "Mother never lipsyncs." Sorry- do you know who your mother is? As much as I don't care if she lipsyncs about 30% of the show this is something that annoys me massively.

She just uses a backing tape for the gig, proof below.