Cancers rising in under 50’s. Do we have any sensible hypothesis as to why?

[ThatPeachSnake]

Ultra Processsed Foods? Drinking? I feel like we don’t smoke as much as previous generations…

I’m so very worried

I am 35 and have had 3 friends my age die of cancer. 1 with a brain tumour, one bowel cancer and one breast cancer. All fit, healthy , active up until diagnosis.

I just want to say I don’t blame anyone! Absolutely would never. I’m just very interested & extremely concerned - I want to understand why this is happening. When I mention UPF, I’m blaming these huge companies that pump out this shit for us to eat for profit. Most of the stuff marketed as ‘healthy’ is not. I’m not saying that the reason for this increase is purely down to UPF, but it may be a contributing factor.

I’m so sorry to anyone who has battled/battling or has loved ones with cancer ❤️

Turbo cancers.

The most probably cause is the covid vaccine .

Let's see how long my comment stays up.

This recent BBC podcast was informative on this question. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001yqs8#:~:text=While%20cases%20in%20this%20age,the%20disease%20face%20additional%20challenges.

Pollution too. We seem to all conveniently forget about air pollution because it would mean peeling ourselves away from our precious cars. And reducing our excessive overload consumption that requires huge numbers of container ships to chug constantly in and out of our ports.

And various nuclear incidents and testing.

It will be on a broad environmental as well as on an individual one.

And of the people I know who have had cancer in their 20s-40s every single one of them has then been tested and found to have a high genetic risk.

And then of course there are people like me, I don't have cancer yet but I have been put on medication that puts me at a very high risk. But no doubt if I get cancer some smug fuckers will decide it was that biscuit I ate in 1986 and not the rotten luck of having a genetic condition that requires treatment with quite toxic medication. I would probably have died by now without the meds so it's a choice I am at peace with.

I had this thought too. I am vaccinated and not anti vax at all. I just can’t understand why all
of a sudden there are so many aggressive and rare cancers.

@CassandraWebb definitely air pollution, agreed. All those fumes must be so so bad for us

Dh has been vegetarian for over 40 years, he’s convinced meat causes a lot of cancer. There certainly seems to be evidence that some cancers are higher in meat eaters compared to vegetarians.

our planet is poisoned. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but the last 50 years have been cataclysmic. Most people do not comprehend just how we are poisoning ourselves everyday. With hundreds of things that we use and interact with.

Microplastics, forever chemicals “PFAS”, endocrine disruptors such as parabens and pthalates, BPA.

yes you use BPA free plastic - are we all aware they’ve just replaced it with BPS which is pretty much exactly the same? Which is exactly what Du Pont did with PFOA. People are so unaware it’s frightening, and when you talk about, they think you’re a conspiracy theorist because the extent and scale is so frightening they don’t want to comprehend it. None of this is new information or even disputed, it’s cold hard easily provable fact. It’s so overwhelmingly depressing, it’s easier not to think about it.

I think the problem with pinpointing foods (and conveniently ignoring air pollution and water pollution and genetics) is that that is the one factor people have some control over. So the focus then goes on blaming individuals rather than getting angry as a society about the amount of pollutants chucked into the air and water.

We could all buy less crap, drive less, fly less. But that would mean making actual changes to our lives.

I don't think anyone I know who got cancer under 50 was unhealthy, quite the opposite in fact they were all in such rude health and took such care of themselves that it just seemed devastatingly harsh

My DH has metastatic bowel cancer which has spread to both of his lungs and his liver, he is 44 and has been told it is incurable. We are told that they can't give us a life expectancy at this stage as treatment can change the timeline, but the average life expectancy from this stage is 2 to 3 years. We found out a couple of months ago. It really crept up silently, he had no symptoms and then suddenly bad ones very suddenly, but for it to have spread this much I reckon he's had it for a couple of years unknowingly. SIX men in our little cul-de-sac of 37 houses currently have cancer. Six, just in our little road.

As to why - they say they don't know, but I personally believe it's not one isolated thing, but a combination of lifestyle and environmental factors. My DH ate mostly healthy meals with tonnes of veg and fruit, with some exceptions, but there was also snacking, alcohol, cigarettes, and sun exposure - we also live close to a main road with lots of traffic so I wonder about the air quality here. Looking back I think there were too many sausages, ham and that sort of thing as well. I also believe that there are a whole bunch of things we would struggle to avoid in our daily lives which also play a part - microplastics we are ingesting, pesticides, preservatives, sweeteners, air pollution. Difficult to avoid those things, especially microplastics.

It does feel random though, as DHs dad is 76 and has eaten and smoked the same way as DH all his life but never had much worse than a cold in all those years, and at his age has exposed his body to far more.

I now feel cancer is unavoidable. I could never eat another UPF or or drink a single sip of alcohol again, but I think about microplastics and all the plastic packaging rubbing all over my veg from the super market, or coming off my toothbrush when I brush my teeth. All the pesticides used to grow the food I eat - not everything comes as organic and if it does it's twice the price. Very difficult to avoid carcinogens these days. The result is that many people, like my DH will lose their lives younger and younger, and others like me will be widowed 30/40 years before they expected to be.

We are being pummelled left right and centers with micro plastics from clothes, throws, bottles etc.
Make up is toxic.

Bedding, voc from fire ristiant stuff on top of fumes, poor diet worse diet, processed food with crap and in UK, dreadful cancerous detection etc.

Exactly. Why don't we want to get more angry about this. Nuclear tests, nuclear accidents, and explosion in car usage and air flights, vast amounts of manufacturing and micro plastics everywhere even the most isolated parts of the planet.

Plus agricultural chemicals which we suspect are the causes of a series of neurological conditions and cancers in the part of my family who lived rurally

Air pollution levels in any city are astonishing . I was in a UK city that people fall over themselves to pay vast amounts of money to live in the other day and honestly the air pollution was horrendous. And still people all lined up in big queues of oversized vehicles to drive everywhere.

@Magicpaintbrush depressing but true

I really am so sorry to hear this. ❤️

I am so sorry about your DH

I've just had the all clear following surgery for endometrial cancer. I was told by the consultants one of the highest risk factors for this type of cancer is obesity. I'm not but it can increase one's chances of getting it greatly.

I'm so sorry

Not a big enough sample size though

Statistically, if you're not dying from Measles, Rubella, Chickenpox, Diptheria, Tetanus, Polio, Hib, MenC, TB, Whooping Cough, Pneumoncoccal, Rotavirus, Asthma, maternal malnutrition, maternal thyroid disease, influenza, B-strep, scarlet fever, SIDS from front sleeping in overheated houses, parents drinking and smoking near babies, reductions in choking hazards, safer bedding/furniture standards, compulsory smoke alarms in new builds, rentals and social housing, maternal mortality decreasing prior to Covid (and then increasing again), T1 diabetes, congenital conditions are identified and treated, including in utero, improvements in transplant success rates, identification of and treatment of childhood cancers, reduced numbers of women smoking and drinking heavily in pregnancy, awareness of risks of prescribing teratogenic and other harmful medications in women, more likely to survive dangerous and premature births, compulsory seatbelts and car seats...

That means there are far more people out there that wouldn't have lived to the age they've reached and statistically, an increased number will result in greater numbers having the time for cell replication to go wrong. Add to that improved treatments of cancers that have a genetic element and people whose mothers wouldn't have reached the age of childbirth are being born with their genetic code preloaded for cancer.

And we are far, far better at finding it, so instead of them being deaths where cancer is found at post mortem, many more are recorded as people with a diagnosis of cancer instead of being a death from cancer.

Plastics.

They are now in the water, the animals, the air, our bodies.

Weird, I think we ll know someone like my uncle, a miner, in the days when you worked in choking coal dust in the dark, who smoked a pipe from his teens, and lived to 101.
So why did he 'escape', when vegetarian, non smoking, non drinking adults secumb?
Are the figures skewed by skin cancer?
Are the figures high because we are living longer, and getting cancer at an age that our ancestors never expected to reach?
Does anyone have an age/type breakdown?

What’s your evidence for this though? And isn’t it a bit soon after the introduction of the vaccines for such a conclusion?

Like everyone is saying again and again. Processed foods, all the snacky food. Daily crisps from the youngest age. Fatty meals on Friday night, the takeaway culture is insane. So many of us don't have a proper meal at lunch, we eat sandwiches, which means for most a processed meat of some sort, usually offer in the meal deals with crisps and soda.

What is even more insane is how every parent on the weaning board is offering these very foods to babies under the age of 1. Veggie straws, melty sticks, melty hoops rusks, rice cakes, .... extruded snack or sugar bombs.

And of course immense amount of meat, chicken, eggs, cheese... a combo of those multiple times per day. In summer days, that meat is burnt on a bbq and washed down with many beers.

Cancer is complex but diet in gastric cancers plays a major role.