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Cancers rising in under 50’s. Do we have any sensible hypothesis as to why?

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ThatPeachSnake · 21/06/2024 19:08

Ultra Processsed Foods? Drinking? I feel like we don’t smoke as much as previous generations…

I’m so very worried

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user7856378298366 · 21/06/2024 19:39

I know four people under 45 with cancer. One with liver cancer, (not booze related) one thyroid that has spread, one bowel, one breast. None of them are overweight or smokers, in fact two of them are dedicated cyclist/gym types. It’s very sad that the two with the worst prognosis also have young kids.
I wonder if it’s microplastics.

EachandEveryone · 21/06/2024 19:39

I think it’s fair to extend this age group to 50’s we are still young.

i had chemo today. The ward was full I had a good look around and spoke to my neighbours. I would say a quarter were 30-50. The rest were either like me in their 50’s or elderly meaning 70plus. They treat many elderly people these days when twenty years ago they probably wouldn’t. I would say the chemo capacity is about 26.

does anyone even for a moment think Covid has anything to do with this? Will it ever be looked into? See also the increase in the amount of late miscarriages and birth defects since covid.

anyway my primary was never found and it’s in my lymph nodes.

I think alot of the younger people in their twenties have blood cancers I know two brothers with lymphoma and they’ve been told it’s not relate which surely is unusual?

Jentefieldroamer · 21/06/2024 19:42

My daughter's oncologist said environment plays a large part in younger people diagnosed with cancer. Thirty years ago it was unheard of women being diagnosed with breast cancer in their twenties. My daughter and two of her school friends were diagnosed mid twenties within one year of each other. Semi rural area, so could be agricultural?

KirstenBlest · 21/06/2024 19:43

Signs and symptoms of bowel cancer | Bowel Cancer UK

Bowel cancer is the 2nd most cause of cancer-related deaths in the UK.
Approximately 46 people die from it per day.

Raiseyourglass24 · 21/06/2024 19:44

There was another long thread on this topic with lots of people saying they knew of youngish very fit people with cancer. Far more examples of those types than sedentary overweight people. That’s not scientific of course. I wonder what doctors would say.

Openup · 21/06/2024 19:44

UPF, sugar and the damage they do to the gut micro biome.

Username947531 · 21/06/2024 19:44

Weight, alcohol, processed foods, stress, environmental pollution. So many stressors on the system and I include divorce, money worries etc in that.

User543211 · 21/06/2024 19:45

I've just read 'why we eat too much' which talks a lot about processed food, especially wheat, and vegetable oils which are actually very bad for us and yet people still choose them as a 'healthy' alternative. Messes up the omega 3/6 ratio in our cells.
I wonder if that's related?
Definitely upf and obesity which are obviously linked.

Marmose · 21/06/2024 19:49

How is it UPF when this worldwide and UPF intake is low in most other countries if we are to believe the van Tullekens of this world.

If it’s diet it’s not UPF. Maybe increased meat consumption? As countries get richer they eat more meat. See China. Have they got more cancer? We should find out.

35965a · 21/06/2024 19:51

Not one person I know (young or old) who has been diagnosed with cancer has been fat, so I don’t buy the obesity reason. Plus as has been said this is a worldwide issue, even in places where obesity rates are very small and diets are healthier.

ThatPeachSnake · 21/06/2024 19:51

Marmose · 21/06/2024 19:49

How is it UPF when this worldwide and UPF intake is low in most other countries if we are to believe the van Tullekens of this world.

If it’s diet it’s not UPF. Maybe increased meat consumption? As countries get richer they eat more meat. See China. Have they got more cancer? We should find out.

Meat increase came to my mind too

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iloveeverykindofcat · 21/06/2024 19:52

Marmose · 21/06/2024 19:49

How is it UPF when this worldwide and UPF intake is low in most other countries if we are to believe the van Tullekens of this world.

If it’s diet it’s not UPF. Maybe increased meat consumption? As countries get richer they eat more meat. See China. Have they got more cancer? We should find out.

I know an oncologist who subscribes to that (and also microplastics). She does eat meat, but small amounts, not every day, and only some meats. I don't know which ones exactly but definitely not bacon, ham etc.

Houseshmouse · 21/06/2024 19:58

It's meat. I've worked with an oral surgeon who said exactly that.
Especially crappy processed meat.
Cows and pigs often get huge cancerous tumours which are then ground up into burgers and sausages.

WmFnKdSg1234 · 21/06/2024 19:58

It is interesting and frightening in equal measure.

I would suspect all of the above, but IMO particularly stress.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 21/06/2024 19:59

Jentefieldroamer · 21/06/2024 19:42

My daughter's oncologist said environment plays a large part in younger people diagnosed with cancer. Thirty years ago it was unheard of women being diagnosed with breast cancer in their twenties. My daughter and two of her school friends were diagnosed mid twenties within one year of each other. Semi rural area, so could be agricultural?

How awful, I'm so sorry x

KirstenBlest · 21/06/2024 19:59

@Jentefieldroamer , I wouldn't be surprised.

I remember decades ago, my uncle saying that the incidence of miscarriage in humans and animals was unusually high in their rural location.

I'd put money on it being related to the wheat-based diet in this country.
Wheat is often sprayed with weed-killer just before it is harvested.

ThatPeachSnake · 21/06/2024 19:59

Houseshmouse · 21/06/2024 19:58

It's meat. I've worked with an oral surgeon who said exactly that.
Especially crappy processed meat.
Cows and pigs often get huge cancerous tumours which are then ground up into burgers and sausages.

how disgusting and just so sad.

I have been vegetarian for years but my DH eats a lot of meat. I try and get him to cut down but every meal includes meat - mostly chicken and steak.

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DullFanFiction · 21/06/2024 20:01

No access to proper healthcare
Covid. In particular an interesting into very unusual cancer.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 21/06/2024 20:01

ThatPeachSnake · 21/06/2024 19:51

Meat increase came to my mind too

But as a nation don't we eat less meat than we did a generation ago?
When I was a child in the 1970's/1980s is was unheard of to havd a meal without meat. Unless you were vegetarian which was still very much unusual in the northern town where I grew up.

DullFanFiction · 21/06/2024 20:03

Btw @ThatPeachSnake what periods are you comparing when saying the number of cancers have increased?

Reasons will be different if you look at the last 5 years (which I was referring to) vs the last 10 or 15 years.

KirstenBlest · 21/06/2024 20:05

@BloodyHellKenAgain , we eat much more meat. Portions are bigger.
We also eat more processed meat.

KirstenBlest · 21/06/2024 20:06

@DullFanFiction , healthcare doesn't prevent undetected cancer.

TTCaxristi · 21/06/2024 20:07

I haven’t RTFT but I was fed a lot of UPFs growing up in the 90s, and I mean a lot. My mum was a single mum and cooking just wasn’t her priority, although in fairness it seemed that similar beige foods were served up everywhere in the 90s. I think there was a cultural shift to convenience foods in the 80s/90s so perhaps this is the effect of that coming home to roost.

Vinorosso74 · 21/06/2024 20:08

I'm one of those under 50s. Was diagnosed with breast cancer aged 46, nearly 47. I had chemo in a small unit, lots of us were mid 30s to mid 50s. Radiotherapy was at a bigger hospital and that was ages from young children to 70 maybe 80 somethings.
I am also sick of people blaming those who have/had cancer for being overweight and generally leading unhealthy lifestyles. I was never overweight and had a fairly normal lifestyle, reasonably active, healthy diet (mostly), vegetarian, had been a social smoker when younger and did drink alcohol but not to excess. The day I was diagnosed, the consultant said to me none of this was my fault. The bloody medication putting me in medical menopause to reduce my risk of recurrence has caused me to be borderline ok to overweight. It's a nightmare.
One thing believed to cause an increase in breast cancer is women having children later in life or not so they are exposed to more hormones by having more periods. Not all breast cancers are fuelled by hormones so who knows?
Please think before you blame, I never thought cancer could happen to me at a "young" age but it did and it could be anyone on here.

wombpaloumbpa · 21/06/2024 20:13

User543211 · 21/06/2024 19:45

I've just read 'why we eat too much' which talks a lot about processed food, especially wheat, and vegetable oils which are actually very bad for us and yet people still choose them as a 'healthy' alternative. Messes up the omega 3/6 ratio in our cells.
I wonder if that's related?
Definitely upf and obesity which are obviously linked.

I've just started reading this! What kind of vegetable oils? Does that include olive oil?