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Cancers rising in under 50’s. Do we have any sensible hypothesis as to why?

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ThatPeachSnake · 21/06/2024 19:08

Ultra Processsed Foods? Drinking? I feel like we don’t smoke as much as previous generations…

I’m so very worried

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beergiggles · 21/06/2024 21:12

(I mean we could all choose to drive less, and fly less, and buy less crap I guess......)
I agree @CassandraWebb, I'm not saying it cant be done but lets not forget that large amounts of money and person hours are spent in order to make things irresistible and persuade us to buy them.
What I mean is we also need gvts to push back against commercial interests that exploit us & damage our health.

Brystar · 21/06/2024 21:12

Vaping, microplastics, pollution, obesity, hormone disruption, lack of exercise, chronic anxiety and raised stress levels, shit food, lack of sleep, exposure to modern tech? I really don't know probably lots of things? I did read recently that in the developed western countries we are eating higher and higher levels of protein especially animal protein and there is some concern that high levels of animal protein in meat and dairy could be linked to higher rates of cancer and the inhibition of certain bodily processes that help mitigate cancer risk. Don't come for me, I eat animal protein myself but as the OP asked I thought I'd mention it.

Courseofjustice · 21/06/2024 21:15

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 21:00

Not just farm workers either, people who live near agricultural land are at risk. That idyllic countryside is not quite so gentle as it looks

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6170243/

In England, farmers are bound by FAR stricter rules regarding use of pesticides than elsewhere in the world.

Bbq1 · 21/06/2024 21:15

Corksoles · 21/06/2024 19:10

Weight. Weight. Weight. Sedentary lifestyles. Drink.

I was 38, active and have never smoked and haven't drunk alcohol for 14 years. I still developed lymphoma. Last year, 12 years later and despite still living the same active and healthy lifestyle i was diagnosed with lymphoma again. I am fortunate as i am recovering from a bone marrow transplant in the hope it won't return.
Cancer doesn't discriminate. Sitting there making comments are like the above are unhelpful untrue in many, many cases.

ElizaB22 · 21/06/2024 21:16

I think the radioactivity from Chernobyl has had a huge long term effect on the food chain through the ground pollution and effect on the genetic make up of animals in our food chain.

IlkaDoxie · 21/06/2024 21:23

Cantbefound · 21/06/2024 20:39

I would like to agree with all this but the few people I know of who died from cancer young were all very thin, active, and healthy - not big drinkers 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️. That’s just my experience though

Not that I want to put anyone off exercise but I have a theory that people going out for a run or whatever in choked up cities are dragging in massive lungfuls of diesel particulate in a way that may be much more harmful than regular breathing. Whenever I see someone running at full puff along a busy traffic road I want to stop them!

This, and what other ppl have said: Teflon, endocrine disrupters, plastics and pesticides in our food. Additives. All of it fucking with our immune systems in awful ways.

rubyroola · 21/06/2024 21:24

Bbq1 · 21/06/2024 21:15

I was 38, active and have never smoked and haven't drunk alcohol for 14 years. I still developed lymphoma. Last year, 12 years later and despite still living the same active and healthy lifestyle i was diagnosed with lymphoma again. I am fortunate as i am recovering from a bone marrow transplant in the hope it won't return.
Cancer doesn't discriminate. Sitting there making comments are like the above are unhelpful untrue in many, many cases.

I’m very sorry to read about what you have been through. But cancer does discriminate, in many cases.

Aussieland · 21/06/2024 21:26

Stress. Microplastics. Chemicals in everything. An unhappy micro biome

ThePoshUns · 21/06/2024 21:27

Bad diet, sedentary lifestyle

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 21:31

IlkaDoxie · 21/06/2024 21:23

Not that I want to put anyone off exercise but I have a theory that people going out for a run or whatever in choked up cities are dragging in massive lungfuls of diesel particulate in a way that may be much more harmful than regular breathing. Whenever I see someone running at full puff along a busy traffic road I want to stop them!

This, and what other ppl have said: Teflon, endocrine disrupters, plastics and pesticides in our food. Additives. All of it fucking with our immune systems in awful ways.

Yes I am genuinely astonished how many people run along traffic clogged roads. It's like as a population we just have to pretend air pollution isn't a major issue. Same with parents keeping their engines churning over for half an hour or longer at the school gates. Utterly stupid.

Abc1weabc1 · 21/06/2024 21:34

Divebar2021 · 21/06/2024 19:12

What type of cancer are these young people getting ?

My son got Rhabdomyosarcoma Alveolar when he was 16.
He passed away 2 weeks before his 21st birthday.

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 21:35

ElizaB22 · 21/06/2024 21:16

I think the radioactivity from Chernobyl has had a huge long term effect on the food chain through the ground pollution and effect on the genetic make up of animals in our food chain.

Exactly. We were babies or young children at the time.

And I know from friends from Ukraine and Belarus that the scale of awful cancers that ensued is far worse than ever gets reported.

Amiokay · 21/06/2024 21:37

Improved screening programmes for cancer, we are getting better at diagnosing it early which could contribute to these statistics alongside known environmental factors. Hopefully if it’s true that gen Z don’t drink, don’t smoke and probably had an HPV vaccine then it might go down in the future 🤞🏽

MistyHedgehog · 21/06/2024 21:37

I had colorectal cancer at 19. No family history and very advanced by the time they found it. My mum always cooked home cooked meals and take away were a treat rather than something we had regularly. I was slim and fit.

They had no idea what caused it. My theory is micro plastics.

WormBum · 21/06/2024 21:38

Haven’t rtft but there are so many things that could contribute.

I’m watching Dark Waters at the moment (about the damage done to people by the company that created Teflon, and their decades long denial and cover up of the issue).

I recently watched Dopesick (big pharma’s marketing of OxyContin that created a massive addiction problem, particularly in poor areas of USA).

Big corporations do anything they can to make their millions, by funding research that proves their products are good for people, whilst the same products are making life worse for loads of people.

Who decided that microplastics were the way to go? Who decided to push cheap UPF like it was the best thing for people? Who pushed formula milk and actively engineered a whole generational breakdown of breastfeeding? Who based western diet advice on outdated bad science from the 50s that we're still clinging onto? Why is the third highest cause of deaths in USA and Europe prescribed drugs?

We really need to stop trusting the big psychopathic corporations whose only interest is making money out of us all. Our lives are not enriched by them. We are gullible idiots.

In years to come we’ll hopefully learn to not be so captured by these companies, and rather than shaming whistleblowers and routinely treating them as outcasts we’ll start taking them seriously and properly investigating their claims.

Anyway, I suppose what I mean is that there are so many more chemicals routinely in our food nowadays, and more and more people prescribed long term drugs that may not be as helpful as we’re told.

Due to intense farming practices we’re all lacking in minerals.

Any and all of this could be behind growing rates of obesity and the dangers caused by that.

hastalav · 21/06/2024 21:47

My theory for the gut cancers is untreated asymptomatic Helicobacter Pylori infections.

Just a guess though. I had it without any symptoms whatsoever and although it's treated now and no evidence of infection, the GI docs keep an eye on my insides every few years.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 21/06/2024 21:48

All the younger people I know who have got cancer have been really healthy 🤷‍♀️

Currently know two women in their early 40s with young kids who have bowel cancer. One of them is a marathon runner....

I think it's completely random sadly.

EachandEveryone · 21/06/2024 21:48

ThatPeachSnake · 21/06/2024 20:51

Also had the thought it could be the virus.

I think about it a lot and have a good relationship with my oncologist and I asked him he said no. I’m guessing they have to say that don’t they? There is a 95% chance mine is hpv which is viral however I havevt had a bloke for ten years and also a full hysterectomy 5 years ago. They can not find the primary. I found it after I had Covid for the first time and I was very late to that part. Also I had my vaccine changed which we never had a choice over, I would’ve stuck to Pfizer

the2andahalfmillion · 21/06/2024 21:52

The only people that can answer this are top-flight scientists undertaking rigorous, peer-reviewed comparative international studies and who have access to reliable data.

Some countries are not experiencing this, or not to the same extent: why is that?
Some demographics within countries are not experiencing this, or not to the same extent: why is that?

It's going to be multi-factoral. There is unlikely to be a single smoking gun.

I'm so sorry for all of you who have done everything right and still got cancer - that's so unjust. And then there are others who have done nothing right and escaped. Again, unjust. I lost another type of genetic lottery so I do sympathise and see why it is really irritating to read the implication that 'because you did x, then y happened'. That's not how it works. Epidemiology is brutal and doesn't reward individual people for their individual endeavours. Very unfortunately :(

StarDolphins · 21/06/2024 21:55

microplastics, genetics, stress, meat, obesity & chemicals. I try to buy organic & reduce UPF but it’s hard.

pontipinemum · 21/06/2024 21:56

In my family anyway we've had a few over 50s as well but the under 50s:

Female - 33 when she died of melanoma cancer 😥I think she got massively f*cked over by the GP who she went to with a lump in her leg in her early 20s he said it was benign, it wasn't and had been malignant since then. She was probably the higher end of a normal BMI, didn't smoke, wasn't a big drinker, with 2 young kids possibly didn't exercise as much as she could. But certainly was not a sun worshiper, or sun bed user. In her older childs year there had been I think 4 parent deaths from cancer and he was only a few year into primary.

Male - 20 kidney cancer, thankfully has survived and is thriving. Would be well within the healthy BMI range. Used to play a variety of sport. Drank prob too much as the weekend.

Females x2 in mid 40s: both breast cancer both thankfully in full remission. Both would smoke although both have quit on several occasions for sometimes years. Both like to drink, but I wouldn't call either a 'big' drinker. Both would have overweight possibly obese BMIs but wouldn't be what you'd call in the street very big. One is big into exercise.

I really don't know what the common link is. These would all be close relatives.

the2andahalfmillion · 21/06/2024 21:58

EachandEveryone · 21/06/2024 21:48

I think about it a lot and have a good relationship with my oncologist and I asked him he said no. I’m guessing they have to say that don’t they? There is a 95% chance mine is hpv which is viral however I havevt had a bloke for ten years and also a full hysterectomy 5 years ago. They can not find the primary. I found it after I had Covid for the first time and I was very late to that part. Also I had my vaccine changed which we never had a choice over, I would’ve stuck to Pfizer

They don't 'have to say that', no.. I'm sorry for your experience but I would strongly caution against going down the rabbit hole of covid and vaccine conspiracies. The reason they 'don't say that' is because there is no scientific evidence to back it up, and medics are generally pretty wedded to science.

The evidence points to your cancer being caused by HPV. There is loads of evidence for HPV causing (cervical?) cancer, and the latency period can be a long time. There is no evidence for covid causing cervical cancer. I do understand you want answers, but pseudoscience won't provide them and could harm people who read this. Sorry to be blunt.

jazzhands84 · 21/06/2024 22:01

ElizaB22 · 21/06/2024 21:16

I think the radioactivity from Chernobyl has had a huge long term effect on the food chain through the ground pollution and effect on the genetic make up of animals in our food chain.

I agree with this, especially as a clean living, vegetarian under 50yo cancer survivor. I think this could well be one of the causes we are looking at.

Decoart · 21/06/2024 22:03

Abc1weabc1 · 21/06/2024 21:34

My son got Rhabdomyosarcoma Alveolar when he was 16.
He passed away 2 weeks before his 21st birthday.

I am so sorry to hear this.

My 19yr old has metaststic Ewing Sarcoma, slim, sporty hates alcohol. Her oncologist said they've seen an increase in sarcomas over taking other teen cancers and they believe it is environmental.

FoxNet · 21/06/2024 22:03

My husband died at 39 of colorectal cancer, stage IV at diagnosis - no symptoms before developing agonising abdominal pain. He wasn't overweight, walked 3 miles home from work each day, swam, played badminton, hadn't touched alcohol in 15 years, ate a largely vegetarian diet, never smoked. His father died of the same cancer 20 months after his death and his younger brother has pre-cancerous growths. One of our friends died of bile duct cancer at a similar age, another of ovarian cancer. Two school friends were diagnosed with breast cancer. Late stage diagnosis in the young is partially due to GPs not taking their symptoms seriously, especially when young women present and are fobbed off on multiple occasion.

There's no simple answer, most likely a combination of genetics, environment, toxins, inflammation, changes to the gut biome. Cancer doesn't discriminate. Only enhanced screening and targeted therapies will improve outcomes for this group.

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